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I believe we should not cower under North Korean threats of missiles I believe we should call them on their Bluff then we should most definitely free the starving and oppressed people within that Nation.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

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So, you have no issues with making Seoul a sacrificial lamb then?

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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South Korea must decide for itself if war is justifiable. Japan's opinion, China's opinion, all are more relevant to the true level of threat that Noko presents

AMi @ about 1 month ago

1132 N Ardmore Ave, Villa Park, IL 60181, USA

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Dr evil: North Korea has no offensive capabilities. and there for the US would not have to give up anything in order for there to be a sacrifice. AMI: south Korea cannot prevent the USA from having it's own war with North Korea as they are separate.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

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What would we gain

AMi @ about 1 month ago

1132 N Ardmore Ave, Villa Park, IL 60181, USA

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one less dictator and one less headache for one. and the end of the old meaningless debate about North Korea since that's all pepole talk about.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

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Bluff? I would agree and sign a war against North Korea. But this war is not going to take place because the US and its ridiculous Hollywood forces do not have the balls to start a big war

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

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You should understand, not North Korea is the aggressor, but your empire of dumbing down and slavery. You are just trying to eat Russia. If you visit North Korea, Russia's answer would be clear

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

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Luckenwalde: the United States is a democratic constitual republic not an empire and slavery is banned under United States law. also if you kept up with recent events relations between NK and Russia are terrible. also Russia's milltary is outdated.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

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Both North and South Korea are bristling with conventional weaponry asst their border, judge.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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at not asst

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Anything we do to NoKo, SoKo will suffer the loss. Also...Kim knows full well that if he does anything, he and his regime will be reduced to dust.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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So, start a war, Seoul is the sacrificial lamb: that's what it would amount to. Judge.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Choking them off completely from the rest of the world economically, is the best nonviolent way to bring them to their knees. Of course that's not easy.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

Is not capitalism another form of slavery? How are the millions of colored people from the underworld in your country? If the Russian military is outdated, why are you scared?

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

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Luckenwalde: capitalism is a system of free enterprise which individuals own private property and bussniess without state control. so I fail to see capitalism constitutes slavery when slavery is the forced unpaid work and capalism is all about money

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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if anything communism is a form of slavery as it has the state control everything including pepole themselves.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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Dr evil: North Korea has no offensive capabilities so Seoul would be fine. as far as weaponry is concerned NKs weaponry is outmatched and underdevolped compared to the US.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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now when you say we should cut them off economically. what you fail to realize is it wouldn't effect them it would effect there citizens.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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Ok, you answered my first question. Two questions remain open

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

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2. I presume is about colored pepole which makes no sense since the United States is multi racial and does not discriminate colored people

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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your 3. I already answered saying I wasn't scared

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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go right ahead

rob @ about 1 month ago

1001-1099 Dowling Blvd, San Leandro, CA 94577, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

Are you at least old enough to fight and are you ready to be hit by the ruhr illness and sleep in your own excrement?

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

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Not true, judge. Your premise that Seoul would be "fine" is wishful thinking.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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http://wapo.st/2zf7hpT

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Just because NK doesn't have state of the art weaponry doesn't mean they can't kill millions. Plain old fashioned stuff will do just fine with that sort of proximity.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Economic sanctions affect the welfare of the people. Yes, no doubt about it. Of course, so do bombs. Without bombs the people have a better chance of making it out alive, I have to think.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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1. a website does not prove anything. 2. Seoul is the capital of South Korea NK cannot go on the attack on south Korea as it is to well defending by the Allied US forces. so Seoul would in fact be safe as NK forces would not reach Seoul

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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Let's turn the tables for a moment...as a citizen, which would you choose as your personal fate, as decided by another country? Should other countries cut us off or bomb us?

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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3. North Korea would not attempt to attack Seoul as it would result in going to war with the United States something it does not want to do.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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and 4. hypothetically if a war between the United States and NK broke out NKs response would be to go on the defense not offense.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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Don't underestimate NK's capability or level of stupid. Their main defense is their ability to effectively attack SC. Not with ground troops, but with artillery and over eleven hundred short to mid range missles.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Even with massive bombardment, North Korea would still be able to get plenty of munitions fired in the direction of Seoul. Plenty would die

AMi @ about 1 month ago

1132 N Ardmore Ave, Villa Park, IL 60181, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

AMI: NK would not attack south Korea it would be a waste of rescoces as they would never be able to take it

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

additionally any offensive attempts by NK would fail and only result in weakening there already outnumbered outdated army that would not be able to fight off a US invasion already.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

You speak as if you know something, but it's really your opinion only. Playing Russian roulette with Seoul, who has nothing to say about it, is gross injustice at best and mass murder at worst.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Main St & Mulberry St, Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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I speak based observation and studying plus years of milltary tactics and stratagy. Seoul is the capital of South Korea North Korea would not waste resources attacking a capital it can niether take or keep

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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it would infact be harmful as they would leave themselves vulnerable to a US invasion. something they know and fear

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

and this "mass murder" you are referring to is pure ignorance brought on by a lack of education of North Korea milltary which is out numbered and poor.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Didn't we already try this with Iraq?

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Itasca, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

I wouldn't say that really worked out all that well, and Iraq doesn't border China and Russia

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Itasca, IL, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Really, so because you enlisted we should accept your superior knowledge of military strategy and unique first hand knowledge of global weaponry. Roger that, slappy!

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

You might actually have some credibility if you didn't give away your lack of education by exposing your poor spelling and grammar skills.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

However, if you want to prove something, then prove it, asshat. Conclusory remarks are the debate method of choice for 7 year olds. The rest of us find that laughable.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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me not having perfect spelling or gammer does not make what I say any less true as I said again it is based on observation and years of milltary tactics and stratagy. so far the only thing you can say is seaoul will be sacrificed but unable to prove

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

nor even give reasons on how that would be beneficial to NK or strategically possible or beneficial and have shown no education in NKs milltary.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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Ok. I'll take a few minutes to try and decipher that bit of oral diarrhea, but frankly you're just giving conclusions that mean nothing. I did cite a legitimate news item tending to show you are incorrect.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Main St & Mulberry St, Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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So you've lost this argument, asshat. Provide some evidence or proof, or stfu...You got nothin.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Main St & Mulberry St, Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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Learn how to spell, idiot: it's strategy. Such an important word to you yet you don't even know how to spell it. Skool larned ya good, there slappy!

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Main St & Mulberry St, Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

so basically all you have are insults Grammer correction and a self proclaimed victory that is contradictory.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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no education no counter argument what so ever.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

news trending is not evidence in a strategic military debate.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

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You haven't provided anything by way of evidence. Claims of superior understanding, without more, are merely conclusive. I provided you with a recent report from a reputable source that disputes your claims. You have no response.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I don't think that's really a self proclaimed victory so much as a statement of your incompetence to make your case.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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judge,,, No one believes that NK would win a conventional war. They do, however, have the capacity to inflict massive casualties should they be attacked.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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Calling their bluff implies that you believe we could just march in, do a quick regime change, hand out a few happy meals to the starving children, then be on our way.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Bippity boppity boom

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

It's too soon after Iraq to have forgotten every last single fúcking lesson from it.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I sense this judge has run away. No doubt to crow about his expertise on some other forum.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

I am amazed that your English-speaking experts could not identify these judge ... I'm pretty sure and know who he is

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

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Yeah but I'm not judging that. lol

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/01/us-strike-would-trigger-automatic-north-korea-retaliation-defector-says.html

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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But what does he know

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

I do not give names, but he is an old companion

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

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probably inex I guess

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

or possibly our good friend Angilius. Both are certainly little bítches deserving of ridicule.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

No, but you will solve the puzzle

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Hey how about this...presently, China returns all NoKo defectors they find in China to NoKo. How about we convince China to allow NoKo citizens free passage into SoKo instead of returning them yo NoKo? At least a path out for those who can make it.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I bet NoKo starts emptying out...let Kim be the biggest wad ever, who cares. Shut him off, let him and his generals bask in the glory of Pyongyang.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Thereby addressing the humanitarian issue, as insincere as the op was in that sense, without blowing everything up (I know its fun, but come on no one wants to be on the receiving end of it).

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Is SoKo agrees to that, and China pays for it

AMi @ about 1 month ago

1132 N Ardmore Ave, Villa Park, IL 60181, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

If

AMi @ about 1 month ago

1132 N Ardmore Ave, Villa Park, IL 60181, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

JC: while yes NK can infect considerable casualties if invaded they however not be able to fight off said invasion and would ultimately be defeated.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

the argument wasn't about winning or lossing. Dr evil claims that the capital of South Korea would fall to NK which is a fallacy.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

Dr evil i find it funny how you claim I "haven't made a case" when you have arrogantly claimed NK would take Seoul without any evidence to provide the case hypocrite.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

additionally I have Stated again and again that NK has no offensive capabilities and not only have you given no counter argument.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

but you have also arrogantly ignore all milltary factors and just claimed it would still happen with no how when where or why.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

so before you claim I have made no case make sure you make you're own case first you bigot.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

AMC: I would find it very hard to belive a defector. mostly because social media like fox are biased as #### and there's a very good chance they let him defect as a fear tactic

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

Also to everyone here talking about iraq as if that's an example of failure. the Iraq war was infact a US victory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

so if it's like Iraq we will win.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

With victories like that, who needs defeats? Over four thousand dead, hundreds of thousands injured, a trillion dollars of debt. We can't afford all that winning?

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

You're right to say that NK would never take Seoul. They would merely distroy it. Seoul is easily within reach of NK's artillery and scud missiles. It is highly unlikely that we could take out much of that threat before it was used.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Hundreds of artillery pieces are entrenched in the mountains along the DMZ. Their missles are launched from truck mounted platforms.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: first of all we've been in trillion dollars of debt long before the war of Iraq begain so I fail to see how that's even related

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

secoundly while NK COULD fire artillery they almost without a doubt would not do it as in the game of who has more ammunition we would win and NK would suffer far worse.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

Jc: Houndreds? like it matters within a few weeks the US can move thousands of plans navy and artillery and constantly bomb and fire North Korea easily and while NK would eventually run out...we wouldn't ;). so no North Korea won't attack Seoul.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

frankly there would be nothing strategic or even beneficial in attacking the Captal of South Korea.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

And don't forget that any invasion of NK has to deal with one of the largest armies in the world. Not well equipped, but huge. And every NK citizen undergoes military training. It would be the equivalent of us invading the Japanese mainland in WWII.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: not true the nation's with the largest armys in the world are the United States with 1,281,900 in active duty and 811, in reseve https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Baker Street, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_Armed_Forces

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Baker Street, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

NK has only has about 950,000 in active and 6000,000 in reseve. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Army

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Baker Street, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

also jc your comparison does not help your argument as the US defeated Japan in the Pacific of ww2 and could actually have sucessfully invaded Japan we just chose to bomb them instead.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Baker Street, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

NK ranks fourth. China, India, USA, North Korea. We would have to transport ours. Theirs is there waiting.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Yes, we could win. But it would hardly be worth the cost.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Any invasion by us would involve South Korea. That's what mutual defense treaties are all about. NK would without a doubt attack Seoul.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

We would win the war but at the ultimate downfall of US influence

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: there is nothing to gain by attacking a capital you cannot keep thus would not happen.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

AMI: North Korea is single handedly the most hated country in the world with one of the most hated men running it. if anything our influence would increase.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Why hasn't anyone else attacked them?

AMi @ about 1 month ago

1132 N Ardmore Ave, Villa Park, IL 60181, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

judge,,, NK sees SK and the US as it's mortal enemies. If attacked, they would lash out with whatever tools at their disppsal. The most likely targets would be SK, and US territories. We would try to minimize their ability to strike.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Some would get through. At that point it would be game on. We would soon find out if China would get involved. They have no interest in American troops setting up camp on their border. Russia is the other wild card.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

there is no US territory's NK can attack. China will not get invloved and Russia and NK are not allies.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

NK has no offensive capabilities.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Russia has no desire to have American forces living next door. They may not get directly involved, but they can, and have, provided weaponry to NK. Till now, mostly their old hand me downs. That could change in a day.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

To say they have no offensive capabilities is patently false. Their capabilities may be less than state of the art, but they still exist. Their missle capability is the exception. The potential to deliver serious damage is very real.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

I think that's all just palaver ... the US should be especially careful in dealing with their militarism. The world has seen that the US can not conventionally win. A nuclear war would be your downfall

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc:US forces are already there in South Korea so where you think Russia does not want us living near them I have no idea.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

to say North Korea has offensive capabilities when they have no navy poor outdated airforce outdated tanks and poor armor is plainly false. there only strength lies in numbers which does not win wars anymore.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

lucken a nuclear war would be everyones downfall as we all die dumbass.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

You're talking about the war of weapons. From the technological aspect. How do you Americans explain your worldview to your ridiculous president now? From the psychological side?

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17399847 Missle capability.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Chemical arsenal http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/everything-you-need-know-north-koreas-chemical-weapons-are-21849

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/north-koreas-submarine-fleet-big-threat-or-big-joke-20300 Sub fleet. Old but still capable of doing damage.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

missile capability is highly untested. as well as chemical capability. and sub fleet is also outdated and out numbered and stands no chance against US navy so as I said no navy.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

lucken now you are making even less sense wtf are you talking about?

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

I only provoke via Google translator

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/10/02/why-the-north-korean-artillery-factor-makes-military-action-extremely-risky-infographic/ Their best deterrent.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc if there best deterrent is artillery then you might as well say they have no deterrent.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

A significant factor to the decline of the Holy Roman Empire was an obsession with any and all potential threats no matter how localized or relatively inconsequential to their power base

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Paranoia is a killer

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

1. America is not an empire. 2. Romes fall was due to over relaying on slavery.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

America first !! that is absolutely not imperialistic ... that includes only American allies as slaves

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

how is Americans saying America first imperalisic? if it was something like "America conquers first" then I could at least understand. but a slogan said by Americans in there own country in imperalisic? that's just bull####

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

Actually, I was excited about this saying "America First," hoping you would build a dome with your own steel, and isolate with your own excrement. But unfortunately you still have the big mouth on the global level

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Certainly won't ever be Germany again... You're tops in Europe though!

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

sounds like Luck is jealous lol

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

Now, without a doubt, I know who you are

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

lucken and who would I be?

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

I am discreet. I make myself punishable by revealing other identities

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

so basically you are full of #### lol

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

By the way, would you confirm your identity, unmasked by me? I do not think so

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

again your full of #### can't back it up. ooh you think you know me I'm so scared lol

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

It is enough that I know who you are. and your last comment was a confession

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

yeah you don't know me good luck

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

I already recognized you at your bumbling post. It was as levelless as any other here.

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

Face07c8f5842941e390c902d0f4fbbf

And the name "the judge" is purely coincidental?

[08/15] @ about 1 month ago

Luckenwalde, Deutschland

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

ha just like I said you don't know me lol

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Its funny, judge making comments about others not backing up their words. You started it and on this very thread, dumbass. Are you Trump?, because you're acting like a 5 year old girl.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

You are a big military expert with expertise! You claim this as the basis for all your points, but you can't back it up, you weak little pussy. Your arguments have no basis.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

If I were you judge I wouldn't reveal your vm past history. If you managed to make even the tiniest point perhaps, but you've only embarrassed yourself. Maybe keep that on the down low and go invent another character and try again.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Hint: next time plan your argument so that you have facts or at least highly reliable hearsay (national news outlet with reputation for factual reporting) at your disposal to help you make your case. You're welcome!

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

see all you do is insult and then be a hypocrite by stateing I don't back up what I say or that I don't "make a case"

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

but this is coming from an immature prick who's so sure I'm wrong and thinks he knows so much about NK and yet shows no education on milltary tactics or even basic NK milltary knowlage

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

so again before you try insulting me try actually having an education and actually give some counter arguments rather then just insult like that's somehow intellectual because guess what it is not.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

judge,,, You have yet to disclose your grand plan for calling NK's bluff. We would be more inclined to be swayed by your argument if you were to detail a viable plan of action.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc actually quite simple the US can easily use all it's assets and exploit Koreas weakness. it's lack of adequate navy and air force for example

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

simply surround NK by sea which would not be hard and then use our relative bases as fueling stations for our air force to launch continuous bombings and air strikes on all North Korea milltary infrastructure bases given the small size of the country

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

would mean it could not withstand such a prolonged attack and would within a few weeks be forced to surrender. and that is just one of many many ways for the US to defeat korea.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

OK. As soon as any warships enter NK waters they would be fair game for NK's subs. I assume we could detect and neutralize most of them. But let's say one out of twenty scores a hit or two. That would only be a couple of ships and a couple hundred

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

sailors. Then we send our planes in against the most heavily protected border in the world. Their small size works to their benefit in this regard. They have little air force to worry about. But their border virtually bristles with anti aircraft guns

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Then we have to deal with the thousands of surface to air missles. All of this equiptment is handled by very well trained, professional troops. Most of the radar and missles are mobile, making them poor candidates for cruise missles.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

While all this is going on, NK has retaliated by unleashing artillery and missles against SK and our warships.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

I agree it would only last a short while. But we are talking about a very bloody time span. And don't forget, in this scenario NK 's borders haven't been breached. A negotiated peace would probably be initiated.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc it appears you have not done your research. NK does not have thousands of surface air missiles, there Anti air defenses are poor to say the least you also seem overestimate North Korea border defenses hell even south Korea could succecfully invade

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: also you haven't researched there subs they are very old outdated subs that can't go 15 miles without needing air vs the best navy in the world and you think we would lose Houndreds?

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

So let's get down to real decision making. What losses are you willing to accept? Ten thousand? Fifty thousand? I guarantee the pentagon has a number attached to every one of their options.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: here I will show you a example of there actual defeses https://youtu.be/3WyrYBrOC1o

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

note that in this video he explains how outdated and illequiped North Korea is against the United States

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

and he even illustrates how south Korea could invade North and he even explains the difficulty of attacking seaoul here https://youtu.be/mGKqMi6ZatQ

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

so where you think North Korea can disable Houndreds of pepole and destroy our ships with outdated inadequate equipment is stupid

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: the US has over 1 million in service and is the third largest milltary in the world and out numbers and outmatchs Korea it will take a lot more then a few thousand (which there's no way it would be that high) to get America to back off

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

let me give you some history gettsburge 1863 lasted from July first to third and over 100thousand men were killed wounded or captured that's 52 thousand from both sides. so if the US does not quite at that then it never will.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

in just 200 years the US milltary has defeated empires and superpowers many of which while outnumbered and outgunned and is regarded as the world's strongest milltary

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

and you honestly think that Korea would be a challenge?

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Let's compare apples to apples. The last Korean war produced around 35,000 US deaths. We were looking for the exit. We have become used to shock and awe, and troops running away. I don't know how Americans would react if we started taking real

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

casualties.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

I do believe they would be a challenge. This is what they've been training for, for fifty years. They have a one million man army. And that is the best job in the country. They are well fed, well trained, and have nowhere else to go.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: lol only 35k? that's not ####. and no NK would not be a challenge

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

the United States out numbers them, has far better training, and unlike NK the United States is not suffering a famine or sanctions so a well fed army they are not

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

also NK might have a 1 million army however the United States has an equal number except out Army is just a division there's is not

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

also they have virtually no navy or air force and outdated anti air guns.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

here's a little secret about war numbers don't mean #### if you don't have the technology to back it up. especially when fighting an enemy like the US that can litteraly bomb the #### out of you for months before actually sending troops

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

all the while due to lack of decent milltary technology due to decades of isolation and lack of skillfull research pretty much prevents you from doing #### about it.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Both China and Russia enjoy having NK as a buffer on their southern border. I believe Putin would love to test his latest ground to air defenses against our war planes. He may be rolling them into place as we speak. China has a history of coming to

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

the aid of NK. Who's to say they wouldn't do it again?

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

I've read conflicting accounts as to the well being of the NK army. Most say that the majority of the country's food and wealth go to the military.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

many reasons. 1. even Russia's milltary is terrible in comparison to the US. 2. Russia and Chinese and North Korea relations are just terrible to say the least. and 3 China gains nothing by aiding North Korea and infact losses trade by the sanctions

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

and makes no profit from NK and have made no secret to not liking kim.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

According to the pentagon: "There are no good military options involving North Korea." Casualty estimates range in the hundreds of thousands to a million.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

http://nypost.com/2017/11/05/pentagon-says-securing-north-koreas-nukes-would-require-ground-invasion/ Argue with the pentagon if you like. I'm done here.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Yeah, but did you die???..... Oh

AMi @ about 1 month ago

St. Charles/Oakland, York Township, IL 60126, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

I tried to locate a fox article to link to. Evidently they missed this one.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: sorry to inform you this obvious fact but Nothing actually comes out of the Pentagon. anything you find on the internet that is "according to the pentagan" is false

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

plus your status as a civilian alone already garntees you have no actual milltary information least of all the Pentagon to make such statement so basically your full of ####.

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

It's a report requested by a group of congressmen. And the story has been carried by nearly all major news outlets.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

I suppose that as a a high ranking truck driver you have the inside track regarding conditions on the Korean peninsula. But since you no doubt are required by your security clearance to keep silent on these matters, I'll have to rely on the

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

information provided to us lowly peons by the news media.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

so basically your information is based on other information given by others who pass down it to others. sure that's reliable lol

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

that's like saying you heard a rumor from another person who also heard a rumor and then told you lol

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Yes. Unlike your morning briefing by the joint chiefs. Ha!

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

jc: you realize I would have to be a high ranking officer and me as an enlisted man can never be a commissioned officer

The judge @ about 1 month ago

1801 Inyo St, Bakersfield, CA 93305, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Exactly. As an enlisted man you get the full mushroom treatment. I remember.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Miami Township, OH, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

But he's an expert. I know its true because I've heard it repeated so many times.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

He knows about the inner secret workings, actual capability, and strategic data regarding the military in Russia, NoKo and the U.S., check!

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

Dr Evil: here's a good question how are you so sure you are right and I'm wrong when the only information you provided is biased and flase?

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

9d78825a7c1be4ca634fa5b77c5c4d3d

hypocrite

The judge @ about 1 month ago

Bakersfield, CA, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

At least I provided information. You did not. Nice try though. It's not that you're "wrong", it's that you've provided no support of your opinion.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

So your question isn't good, in fact it's a stupid and ham handed attempt to try and deflect from your idiotic, baseless opinion. Too late, asshat.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Regarding my source, the Washington Post is pretty reliable when it comes to reporting facts. They are not flawless...no media organization is. I'll stand by them before any cable news organization for example.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/berlinschoolofcreativeleadership/2017/02/01/10-journalism-brands-where-you-will-find-real-facts-rather-than-alternative-facts/amp/

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

WaPo and BBC are my go-to news sources. I also read from Buzzfeed, Fox, ABC, NBC, CNN, etc but you have to careful with those. I never read those first... their respective spin on stuff is interesting. I stay away from NYT only because it's

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

dismissed by most people here in the Midwest as a liberal east coast city paper, cuz NY. (But D.C./WaPo is ok... go figure.) Worst by far for spin is Fox. Also bald innuendo implying liberal devils have sinned. It would be funny, except you think

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

holy shít there are a lot of people reading this that swallow it whole, think its factual in some way and just... believe it. Now enter Facebook, pablum for the idiot masses. This is how we reached the present kakistocracy.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Fox splits their headline time these days between kneeling NFL players (daily for weeks!!!) and what Hillary did. Shootings are safe to cover, with the right spin. Anything to avoid headlines the others are carrying!!!

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I don't read stuff like Infowars, Breitbart etc. regularly. That's not because I wouldn't read it...I just don't want to have a browsing history that includes extreme sites. I'll go there when referred by a news article.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

... like to read something on Breitbart that Bannon wrote or co-authored, like the alt- right manifesto.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Same with sites such as Now This and Mother Jones for left wing propaganda

AMi @ about 1 month ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Yes, also MSNBC. I really ignore the extreme left wing stuff because I'm already lefty, I arrive at my conclusions based on facts. But I'll look to Fox opinion pieces and such to help me try and understand stuff I'm having a hard time seeing.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

For example, the recent uranium/ Canada/ Russia thing was a great example of how facts and spin interact to result in a rainbow of incredible (in the true sense of that word: not credible) claims and opinions.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

WaPo did a great service early on in that news cycle and set forth the bare facts, including names and dates, related to the mine sale. The facts made it quite clear that someone dug around until they were able to spuriously stitch together some

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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stuff that happened and somehow spin it into something. Kinda ridiculously. Anyway, reading everything else after that, it was amazing to see the stories that ensued...and are still being reliably pushed by e.g. Fox. Distraction in its purest form

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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