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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/08/single-payer-health-care-means-might-be-denied-surgery-for-being-too-fat-no-really.html

Tjaden Froyda @ 15 days ago

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I'm down, time to lose some weight America

AMi @ 15 days ago

1128 Ardmore Ave, Addison, IL 60101, USA

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Well it makes sense for stuff like hip and knee replacement. After all, you wouldn't give a new liver to a practicing alcoholic.

Dr. Evil @ 15 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I agree. Too few people actually try to lose the weight before surgery, expecting the replacement to fix everything. And in the US, we do it knowing the underlying problem isn't being addressed Love the spin though

Tjaden Froyda @ 15 days ago

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single payer AND single provider . definitely the only way to go .

H2O @ 15 days ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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Yeah, I don't see nationalising the hospital and clinic system happening, but let's keep bringing that up like it's a serious solution.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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we didn't see single payer as a possibility 5 years ago either. . We didn't see "president" Trump 2 years ago, either. . apparently anything is possible .

H2O @ 14 days ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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The Overton window had shifted, but not that much. Medicare for all (single payer, multiple provider) is just barely within the frame. Nationalizing 1/5 of the economy? What were you smoking in SF?

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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President Trump was borderline unthinkable 8 years ago

AMi @ 14 days ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Back to the OP. Couldn't the obesity be a result of the condition? I mention this after seeing a good friend have both knees replaced. Since the operation he has lost close to fifty pounds. Now he walks a few miles every day.

jc @ 14 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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Could be. But let's say you walk four miles. How many calories would you burn? https://www.healthline.com/health/calories-burned-walking#overview1

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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Not discounting those calories burned one bit, but weight loss/gain starts and ends with diet for most people.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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because the condition is usually gluttony

AMi @ 14 days ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I'm just saying, he slowly added those pounds as his condition worsened. Going from a very active guy to a sedentary one. The knee replacement reversed the process.

jc @ 14 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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Hell. Looking back on my life I've engaged in a lot of activities that could be described as stupid. Some self destructive. But hey, you only go around once. I have a hard time passing judgment on others who've made equally stupid life choices.

jc @ 14 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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Blaming it all in the knee is too simplistic though. If one eats the same amount and moves less, one should expect to gain weight.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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Yeah but the point is to not make a habit of the same stupid choice. I seriously doubt you do acid nearly as much now as you did 40 years ago

AMi @ 14 days ago

47 W Armitage Ave, Villa Park, IL 60181, USA

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For a majority I've seen, there's a significant lack of understanding of nutrition/caloric content (and a bit of not caring for some). Nutrition education is shït and food companies are tremendous at marketing.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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Not to mention poor access to affordable, smart options

AMi @ 14 days ago

Elmhurst, IL, USA

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There is something to that arguement. But there is probably as much of an arguement about the food choices made by those on food stamps. Easy seems to trump healthy these days.

jc @ 14 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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There's an easy solution, limit the food choices available to those on food stamps.

AMi @ 14 days ago

Elmhurst, IL, USA

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Good luck with that. Every attempt to do that has been met with an army of lobbyists carrying suitcases full of campaign contributions. Junk food is big business with high mark ups.

jc @ 14 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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Perhaps so

AMi @ 14 days ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Hey Skal, what do you know about PSA numbers?

President Not Sure @ 14 days ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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If I vigorously massage your prostate it'll go up.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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I dont umderstand how a trump white house was unthinkable to you guys

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with your tongue? seriously how bad is it if it is over 10?

President Not Sure @ 14 days ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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Tongue? I'm no Gene Simmons.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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https://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/81944 Common reference lab site

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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As I understand it, your PSA change from year to year is as important as the actual number. Even that can be misleading. Your PSA can be affected by a lot of things.

jc @ 14 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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If you produce a high number, your first action should be to have it rechecked in a month. Believe it or not, a recent ejaculation can spike it.

jc @ 14 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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True, but beyond a certain threshold the risk of having cancer is quite high.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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thanks but I can and have checked the interweb. I was wondering if you had real world experience. I can also find proof Michelle Obama is a man and killary is going to jail but can't believe everything on the interweb.

President Not Sure @ 14 days ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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6 years ago 3.8 now 15.3.

President Not Sure @ 14 days ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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I do, I just try not to give specific medical advice over the interwebs. I pointed you to a pretty damn good source, take it or leave it.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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As with most information on the interwebs, some sources are more reliable than others. If in doubt, talk to your doc. And a urologist.

Tjaden Froyda @ 14 days ago

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PNS,,,, 15.3? That's pretty high. What was it last year? I've had mine spike from under four to over twelve. Retested a month later. It was 3.9. that was four years ago. Under four ever since.

jc @ 13 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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That's real world experience. Now listen to Skal. Talk to your doctor. And don't panic. Even the worst news is not as bad as it used to be. I have several friends who have had surgery. It hasn't stopped them from enjoying life. One swears his sex

jc @ 13 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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life has improved. His wife was told by his doctor that regular sex is great therapy.

jc @ 13 days ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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I had a 6 year gap so I don't know when it spiked. appointments already made just trying to figure out what I can before I go. there's no need to panic because it is what it is.

President Not Sure @ 13 days ago

St Peters, MO, USA

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