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https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/godaddy-blacklists-white-supremacist-site-dailystormer/%3famp=1 Hate speech being censored online. Where should the line be drawn?

Racer X @ 3 months ago

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How is the determination made regarding what thoughts, ideas, or groups are considered dangerous or terroristic?

Racer X @ 3 months ago

Suwanee, GA 30024, USA

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At what point do words cross the line from just being stupid to being dangerous?

Racer X @ 3 months ago

Johns Creek, GA, USA

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Isn't godaddy a private business? Why can't they make the decision of who they do business with?

Tjaden Froyda @ 3 months ago

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Sorry, it's publicly traded... But same point.

Tjaden Froyda @ 3 months ago

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As long as they don't infringe on anyones civil rights they can establish any standards they choose.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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I'm sure ot was all explained in the easy to read terms of use agreement.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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The administration is seeking names and info about people who researched online the day - after -

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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the- Trump election protest rally, by claiming it was an organized terrorist rally or some garbage like that. Do you suppose they'll use this tactic to find out who was at the Nazi rally on Saturday? I'm thinking no.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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What a meltdown yesterday. Truly presidential.

Tjaden Froyda @ 3 months ago

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There's a lot of garbage piling up on both sides of the curb.

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Ok Donald

Tjaden Froyda @ 3 months ago

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Duck?

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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The both sides false equivalency bullshït

Tjaden Froyda @ 3 months ago

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Never said they were equal, only one side killed a person that day. Violent rhetoric and bs philosophy < violent action and bs philosophy

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I think it's a classic example of poor management from the top down. Like any company, the culture is typically an expression of the leaders mentality.

Racer X @ 3 months ago

Alpharetta, GA 30005, USA

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I've never been less interested in politics than watching the current daily sh!t show of American political antics.

Racer X @ 3 months ago

Alpharetta, GA 30005, USA

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King Joffrey?

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Murray Hill, New York, NY

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But Racer... it's never been more important to pay attention.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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To me, the use of a government warrant to out political enemies and obtain an understanding of their thoughts and opinions is far more disturbing than the outright racist sympathies expressed by POTUS.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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Made possible by Obama policies regarding domestic surveillance

Tjaden Froyda @ 3 months ago

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Thanks Obama!

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Murray Hill, New York, NY

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Looks like Trump's peers are walking away... Bah, who needs advice anyway!

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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The great uniter, remember?

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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we can only hope that the next pres will be the great uniter like obama was.

President Not Sure @ 3 months ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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Clinton was pretty good uniter, obvious jokes aside. But your attempt at deflection is exceedingly weak, pns, one might say pathetic.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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You got nuthin.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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one might say but you're not one so suck it

President Not Sure @ 3 months ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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it's all a fūcking game if you just look at it. the dems stuck us with ocare. the repubs had 7 years to come up with something better. zilch.

President Not Sure @ 3 months ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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now it's a race thing caused by the dems (gov and mayor) of Virginia. all anyone can talk about is trump.

President Not Sure @ 3 months ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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just look past the obvious and see the people in charge (local, state and federal ) for what they are.

President Not Sure @ 3 months ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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all and all we're just another brick in the wall

President Not Sure @ 3 months ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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Haha man you really got nothing. It's pathetic.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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It's shameless the way you two flirt.

Racer X @ 3 months ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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Avoiding the issue by generically ranting about evil stupid politicians is laughable.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

218 MN-95, Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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If that's the best you can gin up, pns, I suggest you return to finish your grade school level education.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

218 MN-95, Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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Fact is that only one of those stupid evil politicians is POTUS. That person represents YOU. You, pns. Your deflection doesn't change anything. Obama ain't POTUS dummy.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Same for congress. It's your congress, you are them and they are you. Give your lazy brain some exercise for once, maybe you'll come up with a legitimate point.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I don't think we should be tearing down monuments so quickly, why not commission a new monument next to it as an "ammendment?"

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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What if this were Germany and the discussion was about monuments to Hitler, Drew? Would an amended monument be ok?

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I know this is theoretical... There are no monuments to Hitler in Germany. Hmmm wonder why, are they denying German history? If so, I'd say the approach didn't work very well.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Despite there being no monuments to Hitler (or any Nazi war heroes) in Germany, seems to me that no one, even in America, has forgotten either him or the Nazis.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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What if they built a taller statue of Obama next to the existing statue, looking down on it with his arms crossed?

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Maybe, of Obama was also pissing on it.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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(if)

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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... and wearing a big shít-eating grin while doing it. Yeah, fun to fantasize but in the real world, its really just something long overdue and we sorely need to move past it. Get them gone, why give those generals any honor?

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I have a better idea. Hold silent auctions on the monuments. The proceeds go directly to fund learning materials for the 3 poorest school districts in each respective state. The owner of the winning bid can choose to donate to a museum, destroy it

AMi @ 3 months ago

Northlake, IL, USA

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Or place it in their front yard

AMi @ 3 months ago

Northlake, IL, USA

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are we now comparing Robert e Lee to Hitler? . if so, then Washington, Jefferson, Grant,,,,, etc are in deep shìt . take em all out . let's go to Europe and get them too . what is your line in the sand? .

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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hell, we lost Vietnam, bulldoze that loser wall . Korea? loser memorials . come on, pyramids built with slave labor,,,,, wrecking ball damnit .

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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I really thought we got headway as a nation with integration and racial harmony in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's,. WHAT THE FÙCK HAPPENED? . now we're going to start over and use a stronger cleaner .

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Washington, Jefferson built the country. They were flawed, for sure, but they never took part in any attempt to destroy the union. I'd say that is an easily defined line in the sand.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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okay; updated banned list: 1: any and all confederate relics; to include clothing, flags, battlefield souvenirs 2: any and all memorials, statues, books that favorably reference a confederate 3: all confederate battlefield markers .

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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The perticipants in Korea and Viet Nam fought in the name of the country. Not against it.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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You mean they don't have a statue of MacArthur in North Korea?

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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If you can't see any way to differentiate those soldiers from the leaders of the confederacy I doubt you are really trying.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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4. class 2 felony charges for anyone caught dressed as a confederate 5: reconstruction of all civil war battlefields, remove all "confederate" reference and replace with "enemy" 6: remove major signage & markers at confederate cemeteries. .

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Additionally, I don't believe that any memorials to the fallen confederate soldiers are under attack. It's just a matter of questioning whether any American should be idolizing the leaders of a failed military uprising.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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Had they won, they could build all the monuments they wanted. But that wasn't the case. To the victor go the spoils. And the right to write history.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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There are plenty of memorials that honor the fallen of both sides. Those were intended to foster the healing of the nation. Lincoln pardoned the confederate soldiers in an attempt to advance the healing. It was the "The South shall rise again"

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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crowd that erected those monuments. It was an attempt to salvage their dignity. But it only perpetuated the division. It is time to remove those last vestiges of hate.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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I think my silent auction idea is the best way to mend the divide.

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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does anyone really believe taking these monuments down / destroying them is going to heal this nation and eliminate the racism and hatred? .

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Some of those statues could be appropriately placed in museums. Some even deserve placement in art museums.

jc @ 3 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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What was going on locally when these monuments were erected? In other words, at the time they were put up, were they really to commemorate the leaders or was it symbolism towards blacks.

Tjaden Froyda @ 3 months ago

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No h2o, taking them down shows respect to enslaved Americans and their descendants. And don't confuse discussion of government sponsored monuments with personal behavior control.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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No one has a problem with headstones or historical markers, detailing facts about people and events that happened. It's the elevation and celebration of those particular individuals that is so horrifying when you just stop and think about it.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Same with confederate flag displays, legitimized on government buildings. Individuals can do what they want... put the Lee statue in h2o's front yard for all I care.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Or.... They can be auctioned off voila the monuments are gone and the children benefit

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I don't like the idea of ripping down history... And a lot of these were put up during Jim Crow.. But I feel like that's all the more reason to preserve (at least some) of them and contextualize.

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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I think depending on the specific monument it should either be taken down to museum, or left in place with a new monument and plaque explaining what was going on when the statue was put up.

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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I don't like the idea of completely whitewashing something bad that once was there.

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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At the very least every statue taken down ought to at least have a plaque mentioning what once stood on the site, where it's been placed, why it's been taken down.

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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Germany is a good example though cuz they took loads of approaches with this, sometimes taking down, sometimes adding to it, almost always leaving a plaque mentioning what once was there etc

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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So if that were a statue of Heinrich Himmler, Drew, that'd be ok by you?

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Perhaps commissioning some kinda official defacement so you can see what was once there yet you know we're not celebrating anything, we're just remembering what once *was* sadly celebrated like a never again kinda thing

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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Also drew no one is whitewashing anything. These monuments are gratuitous celebrations, not historical markers. The Germans keep places like Dachau open for historical purposes. But no statues of Hitler. See the difference?

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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To me, its the celebration of these military generals that's a whitewashing of history, if there is any whitewashing being done.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Doc, how do you feel about the Joan of Arc statue being vandalized in New Orleans?

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/05/joan_of_arc_statue_graffiti_te.amp

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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1st, the "majority" of these statues where erected between 1890 - 1950, to whitewash Jim crow politics. . 2nd, there's no historical reasoning for them . 3rd it is a political left theatrical show,, Trump & Russia fading

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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There is a sensible discussion revolving around the removal of Confederate monuments that will be hijacked by mindless angry drones

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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4th: it's not only soldiers statues, parks, schools, etc 5th: Washington & Jackson are currently being mentioned (see Chicago) . so my 2 questions remain

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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WHAT THE FÙCK HAPPENED to progress . does anyone really believe taking these monuments down/destroying them is going to heal this nation and eliminate the racism

H2O @ 3 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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I think there should be more of a discussion vs quickly ripping them away, but if they do choose to completely remove them, there should be a plaque of some kind showing the removal.

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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What about other historical figures though, King Leopold of Belgium, Cecil B Rhodes... I know those aren't our statues, though. There is something to the question of 'when does it end'

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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Statues will rise and statues will fall, new ones will rise in their place. It never ends. The heroes of Rome saw their monuments fall. What are we trying to preserve?

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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There are a lot of disgusting people exacting influence and deceit upon the lazy masses

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Turn off the TV, stop reading your Breitbart and Salon and go out and talk to people

AMi @ 3 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Maybe we wanna yank them down and make a cast of where they fall... I dunno.. Some kinda artistic defacement would be interesting.

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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Also Breitbart is probably gonna be interesting looking at just to see what Bannon is gonna stick on there now that he's been fired.

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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The ramblings of a scorned lover

AMi @ 3 months ago

1132 N Ardmore Ave, Villa Park, IL 60181, USA

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Exactly

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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I don't think anyone believes that taking those statues down will heal racism h2o. It's that leaving them up inflames racism.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Drew, you are doing a lot of what- abouting here, distracting from the issue at hand.

Dr. Evil @ 3 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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It's not distracting, I'm trying to find where the line exists... Is there one?

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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Also along the lines of what I said http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2017/08/one_alternative_to_tearing_down_confederate_monuments_creatively_repurposing.html

The Drew @ 3 months ago

Quogue, NY, USA

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