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Looks like the GOP secretly liked the ACA all along.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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I'm sure they like it. . My guess, they'll finally do what they should have done. Fix it & keep what's okay. (pre-existing, availability). . but if you're happy with current ACA, it's a tax bill that's failing to cover 100% too. .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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After years of actively sabotaging it... why would we trust the fox to guard the henhouse now?

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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ACA is perfect: 100% people covered, higher taxes on 25%, keep your doctor, keep your plan... . what's the downside? Single provider, maybe?

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Never said it was perfect. Far from it. But exponentially better than both pieces of garbage the GOP tried passing.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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I am just thrilled about all this winning, aren't you? Now we can get back to important topics, like Russian adoptions.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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that's what I'm talking about. ^^^ . I know it's not perfect for you, it's not Single Payer socialized care .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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So who's Putin adopting now? J. Kerry? Hillary? I think he's already adopted WJ Clinton, I could be wrong, maybe a night with Chelsea .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Single payer is simply better and cheaper than the mess of a system we have now. And the GOP plans were horseshït by any measure.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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Awwww so cute how you're playing ignorant re Russia.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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here's a question skal. . Do the Democrats in Congress (majority of), believe ACA is okay? If not have they proposed any changes? ( besides single payer)

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Ok as is, no. Proposed changes: only in platform. Kinda a waste of time when the party controlling the House had no intention to fix and has focused on repeal since taking over.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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Here's a question - what did you think about the now sunk Senate bill?

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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didn't like any of the 3. . always said best way is to fix the damn bill via bipartisan. . or let it go as is and let dems own it. . prediction: repeal plus 2 years fails, too. .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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don Jr. or Spicer getting adopted? You pick your idiot in this one. . although I would support the repeal plus 2.

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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I know you're happy my insurance premium went up 300% . single payer, single care provider umbrella, medical personnel become government employees..... all would control cost . similar to the VA model

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Funny thing is the GOP owns healthcare now. They're in control and because of their sabotage, ACA (which is popular now) might go down on their watch.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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Repeal plus 2 is a horrible idea.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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300%? Sounds a bit exaggerated compared to rates that have been released.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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I disagree on gop owning "Obamacare", easy to twist back and blame dems for not wanting to fix. (right or wrong) . repeal plus 2 forces bipartisan bill. neither side wins 100% . only 2 other choices remain. dems get to write new bill or it stays in

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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I don't see dems getting new bill for at least 3 years. unless the bmoron scenario works... dems win house and Senate and Trump and pence quit breathing. . president Pelosi .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Why would it force a bipartisan bill? The save the GOP from the mess they cause by the repeal? Ha. Remember, not all parts of the repeal wait two years to take effect. The mandate is gone immediately.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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takes 60 votes for replacement with repeal plus 2. . my so called free healthcare for military service went from $46/month to $215/month. My supplemental insurance went from $386/month to $475/month. military insurance effectively up 300%. .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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ACA forces primary coverage of military insurance to Medicare as prime @ 65. . yeah my insurance is cheap

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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if it was a true mandate 100% would be covered, younger not playing the game. .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Mandate lacked teeth because conservatives howled. That's their least favorite part. So either it's a mandate or it isn't. Can't have it both ways...

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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Are you sure that ACA forced you into Medicare?

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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yep, everyone in retired and turning 65 after 2013

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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per tricare reps, part of ACA mandate that affects government workers and families. . military retirees and veterans take it in the ass again. better part the Obama VA bill now says I can't use VA healthcare because I make too much in retirement.

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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actually may have better off not going over 20. . yep, I'm bitter as fùck. The primary reason for staying in was the promised medical for me & wife. .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Was there something else that took effect in 2013 (say...March 1) that could've been responsible?

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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I'll bite, couldn't find anything March 1

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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You know there was, but if blaming ACA helps you sleep better at night.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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Sequester

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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It hit TRICARE hard and caused the changes in prime you blamed on ACA.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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Skål is in full Nelson from the Simpsons "Ha Ha!" mode.

The Drew @ about 1 month ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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sequester just forces everything. I'll read the sequester outline, I'll acknowledge it if it's there. still doesn't let Obama off the hook, sequester is his baby too. .

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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BTW: nothing helps me sleep better night. Thanks to Obama's VA thresholds, my PTSD therapy was cancelled and no civilian physic around here provides treatment. . so I get entertained by nightmares

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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CATCH 22

H2O @ about 1 month ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Yeah, it's as amusing as all my Medicaid patients that say they're glad they don't have none of those stupid obummercare plans.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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You can't just read the outline, bud. You have to read the specifics of what TRICARE did in response to sequester.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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Sorry to hear.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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seems that the bottom line of this thread is: when the gubment gets too involved it turns to shït. all they know how to do is waste money.

President Not Sure @ about 1 month ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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Not always. If elements of gubment are determined to make gubment not work so they can justify cutting it, it's a hell of a lot easier than making something work.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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This all goes to show that John Boehner knew his party better than the current leaders. It will be interesting to see if he was also right on tax reform.

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a53411/john-boehner-republicans-obamacare/

jc @ about 1 month ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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hey h2o: there is a new wris####ch app invention that senses your sleep disruption and buzzes your wrist just enough to tip you out of the nightmare, without waking you. It's a life changer for those of us with ptsd. look into it.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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wrist watch. lol

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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MyBivy

Dr. Evil @ about 1 month ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Did that go anywhere?

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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@evil - looks like it was a typical Kickstarter project. Maybe paid for a semester of his tuition at Macalester.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 month ago

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Well at least it sounded good and it triggered the twát filter.

The Drew @ about 1 month ago

Long Island City, Queens, NY

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I did go somewhere Skål, not sure where it's at now. someone bought the app I'm pretty sure. hopefully they'll continue with it: the results are really outstanding for a lot of people.

Dr. Evil @ 28 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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ptsd- related sleep disturbances are awful because lack of sleep blocks other efforts to get better. You can't improve your mental health without restful sleep.

Dr. Evil @ 28 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Agree 150%

Tjaden Froyda @ 28 days ago

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It sounds like you know some people who got in on the beta? I looked on the Pebble store - not there. Doesn't look too be available for apple/Android watches either. (Or something similar)

Tjaden Froyda @ 28 days ago

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try living with this shìt . i go to bed hoping to sleep through the night, hoping I don't hurt the wife, punch a hole in the wall, ??????? . reliving bad history sucks drinking to sleep, sucks .

H2O @ 28 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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no place to turn (So far) for help, sucks

H2O @ 28 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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just think, if you slept better, you wouldn't be so grumpy. then you'd become a liberal. May not be worth it. seriously though, I hope you find a solution.

UndrWater @ 28 days ago

17702 Eric Ave, Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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Me too, H2O. I have the added joy of menopause hormonal issues, which really fúck with sleep on their own. My ptsd is related to the beatings and worse suffered at the hands of my ex.

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I know your ptsd issues are far worse than mine, H2O; I have enough problems to fully appreciate what you are going through. Really I hope you find a solution.

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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... that being said, the reason I came too this thread was to congratulate the three brave Republican senators who refused to let the people down on the health care issue. As our young Dr. Froyda says, guess it's really not so bad after all.

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Republicans have been claiming for years and years about having "something better" than Obamacare?? YOU FÚCKING LIED, BÍTCHES!!! You got butkus you dumb asshats. hahahahaha

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Obama's kicking back on some island right now laughing his ass off you stupid idiots! You can't do the ONE THING YOU'VE SCREAMED ABOUT FOR SEVEN YEARS.

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Full control of two of the three branches of government and you fúcking can't accomplish one major piece of legislation? Complete and utter fail, you dumb fúcks. Good luck with that tax reform thing. hahahahaha fúcking losers!!!

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Yay! I'm young!

Tjaden Froyda @ 22 days ago

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My prediction right now is that 4 to 5 years from now we will go to single payer, courtesy of President Warren and a cooperative congress.

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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compared to me you are young, sonny

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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hey why don't you connect with me on LinkedIn?

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Haven't touched LinkedIn for almost a decade. Just not used - all the networking is done with Doximity. The US News and World Report Hospital/Clinic and residency rankings are all polled from Doximity now, so there's

Tjaden Froyda @ 22 days ago

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Little reason to use anything else.

Tjaden Froyda @ 22 days ago

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The single payer FUD has been coming out heavy this last week to distract from the looming BCRA failure. That's just a fraction of what we'll see if it actually is proposed in either chamber.

Tjaden Froyda @ 22 days ago

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I'm less optimistic for that reason. The right has done an excellent job at distorting single payer into a boogeyman.

Tjaden Froyda @ 22 days ago

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That's very true. And the Medicaid expansion has helped a lot of desperate people. Not in states that opted out of that, of course. But the state option is useful to show the benefit. Now we just need to expand on that.

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

Hudson, WI 54016, USA

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Its always good to see the result of those state-as-laboratory experiments. They suck for those on the "we shouldn't do it that way" end of things, but at least we cam all learn.

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

Hudson, WI 54016, USA

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...and bítches gots to learn. Apparently.

Dr. Evil @ 22 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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It's "bupkis" by the way.

The Drew @ 21 days ago

Northwest Harbor, NY 11937, USA

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Sorry Drew. Guess I was thinking of Dick Butkus or something. So: YOU GOT BUPKIS, BÍTCHES. How's that!!

Dr. Evil @ 21 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Yeah, so we've had a few of those state as laboratory experiments with single payer - CA and VT. Politicians seem to balk at the price tag. Changing the nomenclature for funding insurance from premium to tax, even if the

Tjaden Froyda @ 21 days ago

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Total amount is less, seems to a very powerful poliical disincentive.

Tjaden Froyda @ 21 days ago

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I've rather enjoyed Brownbackistan's tax cut paradise experiment.

Tjaden Froyda @ 21 days ago

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me too, the schadenfreude is delicious until I remember that actual people are suffering through no fault of their own... unless they voted for the idiocy, in which case whatever they get, they deserve.

Dr. Evil @ 20 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I also notice that there is no defense of any of this from anyone like pns, h2o, or even that idiot plc.

Dr. Evil @ 20 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I guess they realize that we need to go where Obama dared not: single payer, Bernie is coming out worth the plan soon and Dems will have enough time to refine it and get buy in while they're out of power. 2020 will bring it.

Dr. Evil @ 20 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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The GOP that beat their chests for 7 years but didn't actually have any sort of a plan or even a plan for a plan. The Democrats will develop a plan if they're smart. I'm curious to see how it develops.

Dr. Evil @ 20 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing--after they've tried everything else!" I think we're getting closer to "everything else"

Tjaden Froyda @ 19 days ago

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I'm not so optimistic about the Democrats being smart. They still have essentially the same old guard leadership that sits high on their laurels and expects people to vote for them because "lesser evil" Inspiring stuff

Tjaden Froyda @ 19 days ago

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evil I have already made my statement about this and anything else the govt gets involved in. they will fūck it up worse than it was and spend way too much money doing it

President Not Sure @ 19 days ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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None of your weak, tender little girl asses will even admit to voting for Trump will you? "Who, me? Oh no, naturally it's not my fault. I voted for [cool alt candidate who is safe since it's hindsight].

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I voted for Trump and I believe it was the best choice. I wish the gop would have not said anything about ocare. it was meant to fail from the beginning. it's all about control.

President Not Sure @ 19 days ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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It's been surprisingly resilient despite the active sabotage by the GOP. Rubio messing up the risk corridors really drove premiums up. Now that ACA is popular, time for the destructive shenanigans to get the spotlight.

Tjaden Froyda @ 19 days ago

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If the Dems had guts, they'd highlight these moves every time rate hikes are brought up. But they don't.

Tjaden Froyda @ 19 days ago

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Kind of like they didn't bring up all the background work, committees etc to which the ACA was subjected, when the GOP said Dems "shoved it down our throats"??

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

Main St & Mulberry St, Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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Democrats are spineless. And clueless.

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

Main St & Mulberry St, Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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Close just substitute politicians for democrats

President Not Sure @ 19 days ago

O'Fallon Township, MO, USA

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"shoved it down our throats", comes from the vast majority of the citizens opposing the bill, not some fùcked up committee meeting.

H2O @ 19 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Based on mostly bullshït misinformation. The great thing about the BCRA disaster was that telling the truth about what was in it killed it. No need to make shït up.

Tjaden Froyda @ 19 days ago

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Truly...the facts spoke and the people said, wtf. The people think maybe the ACA is better than they thought.

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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The people said, we wanted out with the ACA because you, Republicans, tell us its awful. What Republicans failed to realize is that not every change is good change, particularly with health care! News flash: it's about more than politics!!

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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The people demand not just "a change" but "a change FOR THE BETTER." Wake up and smell the leadership, it smells like blood sweat and tears. Get to fúcking work.

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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What the people want is universal coverage. For everything but birth control and abortion. Oh and also for no money. No raising taxes even a dime or we'll scream SOCIALISM!!!! hahaha good luck asshats.

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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The most unpopular part of the ACA, the individual mandate, makes the popular parts possible. We simply can't have our cake and eat it too. But that's what we want.

Tjaden Froyda @ 19 days ago

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Exactly so. The GOP is going to run into that conundrum repeatedly... they are politically incapable of understanding that concept.

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I think the Minnesota people are getting too giddy.

The Drew @ 19 days ago

Murray Hill, New York, NY

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Agree-gasms

Dr. Evil @ 19 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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And I'm spent

Tjaden Froyda @ 19 days ago

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Minnesota people think taxing the middle class into poverty is an acceptable solution. . ACA Increased minimum wage (double or better) $100k is rich .

H2O @ 18 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Speaking of taxation - Still waiting to know how much the Cadillac tax has affected you, H2O.

Tjaden Froyda @ 18 days ago

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Pretty broad statement re MN, h2o. Care to back that up at all or is this a trumpism?

Dr. Evil @ 18 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Overall, MN is doing pretty well economically. State unemployment is well below national levels. We do have a health care premium issue, with large recent increases.

Dr. Evil @ 18 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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....aaaand he's got nothing. It's everything I expected from you, h2o!

Dr. Evil @ 16 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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just read your & doc's statements. self identifying, maximum taxation to satisfy a socialist agenda . bet you even believe our healthcare should be available to everyone, worldwide. .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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it's funny though, skal doesn't want to see it totally government run (paycut). he just wants more of the government pie. medical costs can escalate as long as we can have higher taxes & more government money .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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if you want single payer so bad, why not Single provider? .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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that way you can keep your doctor and the plans the same for everyone. OBAMACARE .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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but this debate is moot: repeal, replace, repair, etc. is doa in Congress. . ACA is good enough, here to stay, untouched by GOP, and defended in totality by Dems .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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skal, to answer your question.... https://www.cigna.com/health-care-reform/cadillac-tax .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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"skal doesn't want to see it totally government run (paycut)" As someone strongly considering heading back to the VA, I find that hilarious.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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Oh good, you're learning.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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Why not single provider? Competition. I want it to still exist for care delivery.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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meaning you want more money, at someone else's expense

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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it figures you would see something requested that was earned as hilarious. . but never fear, the ONLY place locally that treats combat related PTSD is unavailable to me. . gotta love a good screwing .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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It's hilarious because going back to the VA is a significant pay cut, exactly what you are saying that I'm trying to avoid It's almost like you have no clue what you're talking about and just trying to get in cheap jabs

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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You're going to the VA? . I thought you were referring to me trying to get the VA to do it's damn job. . either way a fine example of socialized healthcare. pay cuts, refusal of service. .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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No. I wouldn't attack you for your PTSD. I'm not an asshøle.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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The VA is an example of single payer with one provider. No competitor for things like service, wait times, etc. With a single payer and multiple providers, the providers still compete for your business.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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Those that are better at controlling costs can have do better financially too. Other countries have made this approach work. Could work here. Nationalizing health systems is a political non starter.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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Single provider & payer, controls all costs. . we could do away with: insurance companies Medicare and Medicaid ACA . even control treatment options, somewhat like UK . evil's elective surgeries would be totally out of pocket in advance

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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That would control costs. But the US isn't ready for an NHS type system. We already control treatment options here in the US - we are just less up front about it.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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unless the money is there. .

H2O @ 16 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Backdoor rationing is still rationing. We do a lot of it here and then point at wait times for elective stuff in other countries while pretending everything is peachy here.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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One huge difference between elsewhere and here is primary care. Here it is a loss leader. That's why we have a shortage. Other countries use it more effectively.

Tjaden Froyda @ 16 days ago

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There was some article describing different countries' systems in terms of what we have in the US (cuz we have bits and pieces of a lot of types). I'm too lazy to find this article

The Drew @ 15 days ago

Northwest Harbor, NY 11937, USA

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Also hehheh "backdoor"

The Drew @ 15 days ago

Northwest Harbor, NY 11937, USA

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That's the Drew we know and love

Tjaden Froyda @ 15 days ago

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Totally holding out for my free ass implant surgery.

Dr. Evil @ 15 days ago

301-363 Quality Ave N, Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I thought it was the camel-toe makeover.

H2O @ 15 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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I don't think that can be overcome without sewing it shut!

Dr. Evil @ 15 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Skal ??? ? medical opinion

H2O @ 15 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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Maybe crack spackle? I think there was an SNL "ad" for that many years ago. For use by plumbers on the other side of things...but I don't see why the same approach wouldn't work for camel toe.

Dr. Evil @ 15 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Sup H2O?

Tjaden Froyda @ 15 days ago

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...the sewing issue I think.

Dr. Evil @ 15 days ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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That'd get you about halfway to finishing the lower part of gender reassignment

Tjaden Froyda @ 15 days ago

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I'll stick with crack spackle.

Dr. Evil @ 15 days ago

West Seventh, St Paul, MN, USA

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use a gorilla epoxy; cheaper, last longer, std resultant .

H2O @ 14 days ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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