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When is the draft dodging tangerine tinted teletubby going to release his taxes, and stop talking about who won the election. If he doesn't have anything to hide "RYFT" RELEASE YOUR FREAKING TAXES.

Bhaven87 @ 2 months ago

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no requirement to do so

H2O @ 2 months ago

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This is the type of responses you could expect from a supporter of this draft dodging lying pos. He stated he would release his taxes. You did fall for the rest of his BS!

Bhaven87 @ 2 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Is he required, by law, to release his taxes?

Taco Bowl @ 2 months ago

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He said he'd release them after the audit was finished. It is not yet finished, so therefore has not lied. The one return that was exposed showed that he pays his taxes.

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

It's kinda a dumb thing to get worked up about. It's like worrying about the cole slaw instead of the meat and potatoes.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

It's a shiny distraction for Huffington Post readers

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Huge scalp with Bill O gettin the boot.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

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Not a big loss

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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When you think about it, his taxes are one of the very few things on which he hasn't changed his position.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Maybe? I'm glad it appears that he is not an ideologue

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

That's another of your patented understatements. The man stands for nothing. He campaigned on issues that he didn't understand. He promised to do things he had no intention of accomplishing. He played his supporters for fools.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

And it all might work out for the better BTW, no one better infringe on my patent, I'll refer you to our in house attorney

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

He now brags that his election validates his actions. His supporters continue to defend him rather than admit they were hoodwinked.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Validates what actions specifically?

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

When asked about his falsehoods and exaggeration s, his response was " I'm president and you're not". That pretty much says it all.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Yeah, well, elections have consequences. Remember many of Trump's votes stemmed from a growing rejection of the Democratic parties lunge to the left.

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

So what do they care about his bravado? They never voted for it or against it in the first place

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Party's

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Oh, here's this : http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

That's fair. Now research how many of those failed for lack of trying. Then count the ones where he just changed direction before any action was taken. I'd guess both categories would bring in small numbers.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Well, POTUS TRIED to block Muslims jc, and failed. Congress TRIED to repeal the ACA, and failed. POTUS TRIED to be Putin's ass monkey, and failed.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I actually give POTUS a lot of credit for trying very hard to carry through on many of his promises. Of course, he's fúcked up repeatedly while trying, much to my relief.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

My take on his multiple abrupt about-face opinions is that he doesn't really have any principles or a moral compass, plus he's not up on the issues...So he's easily swayed.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Exactly. He never had anything other than slogans talking points and hot air. The man is an embarassment.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

The IRS stated he could release his taxes while under audit. So his 2016 taxes are under audit also BS! This is the same lying pos that was complaining about President O's, BC, and college transcripts. SYFT=show your freaking taxes.

Bhaven87 @ 2 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Of course he could but why would he. You wouldn't either if in his position. What is an ass monkey?

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Scared to reveal his ties to the Russian mafia. Nixon did, so can this lying pos.

Bhaven87 @ 2 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

441587fe232d918c3a4c8497d22aa156

way to go jc. thanks for breaking the story. POLITICIAN DOES NOT TELL THE TRUTH. I don't think that has ever happened before.

President Not Sure @ 2 months ago

Wright City, MO, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

LMAO! Maybe his tax returns show his ties to the Russian mafia. LMMFAO!

Taco Bowl @ 2 months ago

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Ive always seen Lori as a partisan hack. Never jc to this level. Its a little shocking to me.

Taco Bowl @ 2 months ago

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It's all a matter of perspective. Jc passionately believes Trump is a destructive force. The same belief that many held about Obama.

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Just seems out of character.

Taco Bowl @ 2 months ago

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It's not a partisan thing at all. I just believe that the job of president should be held by an intellegent, stable, lucid, human being. Someone who can remember the name of the speaker of the house. Maybe someone who can recall which country he

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

bombed yesterday. I know it's a lot to ask. Maybe I've gotten too demanding in my old age.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

What scares me is that I'm the same age as Trump. I told my wife to put me down if I begin to act Trumpy. She agreed a little too soon for comfort.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

A guy who knows how many states there are? Or are the standards different depending on the letter by the name?

Taco Bowl @ 2 months ago

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I can think of about four times that I was embarrassed by Obama. Lots of times I disagreed with him. Several times I was disappointed by him. That was over the coarse of eight yesrs.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Trump has surpassed him in every category in less than 100 days. Seriously. He is my predident. And for the first time in my life I'm embarrassed by that fact.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

I'm willing to be convinced that I'm wrong. Explain how any legimate candidate could wander through the election with no idea that health care was complicated. How could anyone be so sure that the ex/im bank was a disaster only to find out that it

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

does a great job and actually makes money. How can NATO be obsolete on monday then on wednesday be fantastic.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Every president goes through a learning process. Most don't require remedial lessons before they bigin their OJT.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

No one ever taught him to stop, collaborate, and listen

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/schaumburg-hoffman-estates/news/ct-schaumburg-homicide-update-0421-20170420-story,amp.html

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Green card holder with violent history somehow gets to stay in country to rape and murder. If only he had been deported like he should have been.

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Do you have another link that describes his violent history? Maybe I just missed it.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

He has one https://www.google.com/amp/abc7chicago.com/amp/news/neighbor-charged-in-schaumburg-womans-murder-arrested-in-florida/1895747/

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

I read another article that he had previously incarcerated for stabbing someone

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

It might have been the battery charge mentioned in that article

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

He wasn't a positive force in this country, quite negative actually, and he should have not been here

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

I wonder why he didn't get included in the annual January/ February roundup.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

I'm sure he far from the only non citizen walking around with a criminal history

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

He might have been on the list

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

It's simple: 1. Don't overstay your visa 2. Get legal work 3. Don't commit crimes This isn't a hard concept to grasp

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

How do you misplaces a Carrier battle group? He tried his damnedest to show he was unqualified for the job. His supporters are to prideful to admit they were bamboozle, hoodwinked, led astray.

Bhaven87 @ 2 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Wrong, b. His supporters will be all in until it affects them negatively, personally. That hasn't happened yet on any kind of scale. Plus, POTUS has tossed a few bones to his supporters...allow them to expand and pollute with impunity and

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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in doing so, add a few jobs for awhile. Makes people feel good. Like helping the coal industry, which employs all of 80,000 people nationally. Subway employs between 200k and 300k for example. So helping coal = pure pandering, feel good stuff.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

But hard truths are coming for those who put POTUS in office: in the new Darwinian order, they're the bottom rung, the least fit for survival: poor people. But with the administration's inability to pass laws, the pain is put off.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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What level of care should they receive?

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Wrong thread, Ami?

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Yep

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States#/media/File%3AUS_Coal_Mining_Employment_1890-2014.png

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES3232200006?amp%253bdata_tool=XGtable&output_view=data&include_graphs=true

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The paper industry lost lot of jobs in the Obama era. So did coal. Rural towns are struggling. Just in those two industries alone about 150000 people lost their jobs.

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES3000000001

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The above link is a good illustration of why blue collar workers switched parties this election. That is one flaccid recovery right there!

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Paper industry struggling in the electronic age. Shocker. Those jobs aren't coming back. Neither is coal. Trump made a promise he'd bring them back, but doesn't seem to have any coherent plan on doing so.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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The "electronic age" When did that begin again? Did Obama usher it in? What a guy!

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/08/02/us-coal-imports-up-but-exports-down/13368199/

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

http://bangordailynews.com/2015/05/11/business/trade-report-finds-canadian-paper-imports-gobbled-up-us-market-share/

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

They may not be industries that are dynamically growing, but our policies in recent years have accelerated their decline

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Why accelerate killing off industry that's declining natural especially without any plan for the workers besides spitting on them and acting superior? Oh yeah, they should just move to Palo Alto and learn to code.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Although paper will always, always be in use. Just a question of how much we use it. (We've been predicting its death for years)

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

"They may not be industries that are dynamically growing, but our policies in recent years have accelerated their decline" Which ones, specifically?

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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By "ones" I mean policies, not industries.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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in the case of coal, accelerated death is justified because burning it is far worse than burning most other petroleum products. Many nasty toxins in coal, areas where it is burned have proven higher rates of many illnesses leading to early deaths.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

once the fracking got going in the U.S., along with wind and solar and other superior technologies, coal demand predictably fell. That's not a bad thing and government shouldn't prop up that business imo.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Don't forget there are non-fuel applications for coal. Also even if think accelerated death is justified, you've got to have a plan for those workers.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

But government props up a lot of stuff like that. Kind of a drop in the bucket really.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Annnnyway, those people aren't naturally Republicans, and very, very recently they were part of the Democratic coalition (they in fact still have that Manchin dude) . If they could have been brought back into the fold, there'd have been no Trump

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Speaking of wind and solar, aren't *they* what the government "props" up.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Renewable mandates, feed-in tariffs, the like?

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Not so much anymore. Unsubsidized solar has just recently claimed the "cheapest power" title. The subsidies created the demand for large production facilities. Prices spiraled down creating even more demand.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

If wind and solar are so superior, why do they *always* seem to need mandates and subsidization.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Constantly on the cusp of being competitive, they just need a *little* more help.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

The help is fading away. And both are becoming competative on their own. Solar is the cheapest to install. Wind is becoming the long term winner when you consider the net gain including continued use of farm land.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

There's no dispatchability with either of those energy sources. Both are intermittent.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

But they can be good as supplements though.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

When you consider the proportion of fossil/ renewable, we have plenty of dispatchability. Given that the majority of power use is during the day, we could build nothing but renewables for a decade and still have no problems.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/world-energy-hits-a-turning-point-solar-that-s-cheaper-than-wind

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Uh huh, I don't think so.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Seems like all those reports come straight from the climateers

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Must.. Have.. More....OPM....

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Ahhhh don't get rid of our mandates!

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

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This is kind of interesting. Cheapest power is regional. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a24272/cheapest-power-plant-every-county/

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Map and calculator do not reflect costs of backing up intermittent power

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Lol

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

That cost is already built into the current grid. Like I said before, we could build renewables for a decades.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

It's not built into the current grid

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Even says so in the vox article they use as a source.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Another thing, power needs at night are probably going up with all those server farms, don't forget those have got to be cooled.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Leave my Bitcoin miners out of this.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Haha

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Drew,, I know that renewables arent going to provide 100% of our electric needs. I'm just saying that it will be a long time before we have to worry about a brown out because the sun went behind a cloud.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Solar and wind take up way too much real estate

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Wind is very good at sharing the land. Each turbine has a small footprint. Solar is a land eater. The latest idea involves using played out quarries, strip mines etc. The land owners jump at the chance to give away the land rather than reclaim it.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Solar energy gathering efficiency and battery storage technology (also affecting wind) are continuing to evolve rapidly. Storage is really key to solving intermittent source issues, along with grid applications.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Wouldn't development around windmills affect the dynamics of their fuel?

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

I do think solar combined with waves and nuclear is the future. Coal as an energy source is nearing the end of its life span. But as I've said before, since we have so much of it

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The reasonable approach would be to develop new applications for the resource

AMi @ 2 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

can anyone see the "battery farm" needed for a 50MW solar farm? Environmentalists will have a field day. . battery waste : they don't live forever (2-3 yrs ) battery manufacturing : huge amount of resources needed battery dangers : remember Samsung

H2O @ 2 months ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Energy storage doesn't necessarily mean batteries. I read about one solar facility located next to a reservoir. During the day, exess power drives pumps that fill it. Overnight the water drives turbines that generate power.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Nice, simple application. I like it. And like I said battery technology (shorthand for energy storage technology as jc points out) is progressing rapidly in the science world.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

The University of Michigan has a small solar campus. A solar farm powers the buildings. Excess power extracts hydrogen from water. Fuel cells use the hydrogen to generate power overnight.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Pretty soon you'll start to see some of the breakthroughs, many of them the products of government funded research, starting to get at this problem.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Remember there are significant applications of these technologies to electric vehicles, including the lifetime issues, efficiency, low temp problems, and use of toxic materials in manufacture as problems to solve.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

There's also the other type of solar we don't hear about so much, solar thermal, I think they are trying to store the heat energy in molten salt.

The Drew @ 2 months ago

Northwest Harbor, NY 11937, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Or how about low temperature solar panels that convert sunlight and water directly into hydrogen. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.technologyreview.com/s/521671/cheap-hydrogen-from-sunlight-and-water/amp/

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Re: Government funded research - grants are drying up. That trend looks to continue.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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If you stop all of that sciency stuff, there's no need to import all of those smart people.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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The true answer is fusion, but who knows when we'll be able to control it

AMi @ 2 months ago

Naperville, IL, USA

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Well with funding for that sort of basic research drying up, we may not ever find those sorts of answers. others may, of course...just not us.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Of course the inevitable brain drain that will certainly happen with new restrictions on immigration in place will only worsen the situation. Great minds aren't a U.S. monopoly.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Many of the brightest, most innovative folks I meet through my work, I struggle to understand due to thick accents or limited English abilities. It's worth the effort!

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Plus I'm happy they're working for a U.S. company and not the foreign competition, to whom they can be very valuable. I'm hoping that doesn't change but I'm afraid it will.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Everyone has to eat, and valuable U.S. educations will not be put to waste when folks are sent packing to their homeland...they'll be employed for sure.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Too be fair though, some companies are completely abusing the visa system to replace skilled US workers with immigrants on visas. There have been some very well publicized examples in the last few years.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Yes, the ass wipe in the White House. He couldn't find 78 Floridain to work in resorts. He used over 1300 visa workers, instead of paying America citizens.

Bhaven87 @ 2 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Like most good programs the visa system can be gamed. They need to fix the problems. Not end the influx of great minds. When American companies cannot hire the best, they find themselves competing with the best.

jc @ 2 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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@jc - absolutely, although I suspect donors don't really want it fixed, so it won't happen.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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A relative of mine was the CIO of a large insurance firm years ago. Whenever they needed extra programmers they'd hire a bunch of visa workers (mostly from India). They worked their butts off and often all stayed

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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In one apartment together. American workers can be a bunch of spoiled brats, they can also be incredibly hard working. Visa workers do a great job of replacing those who feel they are entitled

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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Government funded research grants can be a gigantic waste of money. Not all research is productive or of future value. If less money is used more effectively, we're all better off

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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What Is your understanding about the process to get a federal research grant? Just curious.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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I guess I'd say I have a basic understanding.. Apply as an individual or organization, several different types of grants, grantor reviews application for approval, grantee most provide proof of work

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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Most programmers i know are overworked, not lazy. That practice is done to get around hiring extra employees and the benefits that go along with it.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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https://www.google.com/amp/amp.nationalreview.com/article/427891/top-10-wasteful-government-expenses

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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Americans expect a reasonable wage and benefits. H-1B visa holders don't have leverage so they accept whatever and are often abused in the process (their visa is contingent on employment, so they accept a lot of crap).

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Anyways, I wouldn't say that American expectations of reasonable wages and benefits make us spoiled brats.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Of course, that's obvious And I never said lazy, I said entitled

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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What do you mean by entitled?

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Entitled = Inflated sense of business value

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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Re research grants: where does merit of the proposal come in?

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Programmers are the bookkeepers of the future. A dime a dozen, perpetually replaceable. Same thing happened to graphic designers ten years ago.

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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I'm not sure how they determine merit up front, but the post mortem merit can certainly be questioned in many examples

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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How often have you read beyond the headlines in those examples?

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Just saying you dismiss sources as biased frequently on here. The stories about wasteful grants usually come from very biased sources. How often have you looked for primary information on those studies?

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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How far do I need to read?

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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Let's just say these "wasteful studies" are frequently mischaracterized. http://www.npr.org/2011/08/23/139852035/shrimp-on-a-treadmill-the-politics-of-silly-studies

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Don't get me wrong, wasteful spending happens. But most of what you read about wasteful science is intentionally misleading.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Can you verify your claim of "most" Or should we just say some

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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And although the headlines can be slanted (many are), I would love to see hard proof that many of these studies provided value that's even close to their cost

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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Random thought, I wonder what happened to Silver Fox, hope he is doing ok

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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Ok, that was completely random.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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I'm tired, about to board an overnight to the land of your ancestors

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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No, I feel very comfortable with "most". The stuff that gets talked about nationally is consistently misrepresented.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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"hard proof that many of these studies provided value that's even close to their cost" There are some examples in the npr story I linked.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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I'll read it over again once I get to my destination, not sure I saw that proof

AMi @ 2 months ago

O'Hare, Chicago, IL

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Many of these NSF and NIH studies are exploratory - the point is to make advancements. The toenail one is easy to ridicule, until it is put into context of current ways to screen for lung cancer risk.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Then it is potentially cost saving.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Earlier in the NPR article they mention a controversial $9.4M supposedly spent to study penis size. One of the researchers was a post-doctoral fellow that was funded by the national institute on drug abuse and gave

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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credit to the funding agency. That $9.4M was actually spent teaching many aspiring trainees how to become behavioral scientists to help combat drug abuse - an excellent example of both misrepresentation and value

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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Happy Earth Day/March for Science day, btw.

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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The return to the dark ages have been grossly exaggerated

AMi @ 2 months ago

Nacka, Sweden

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Greetings from my most favorite socialist paradise btw

AMi @ 2 months ago

Nacka, Sweden

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Dark ages, no. Serious setbacks on scientific progress - absolutely. Nyt ditt besøk

Tjaden Froyda @ 2 months ago

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I have a friend in Malmö. Say hi to Ben for me, ami.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Other countries' progress won't be slowed, just ours ami. So no dark ages stuff, just the U.S.moving backward.

Dr. Evil @ 2 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I just don't see that happening

AMi @ 2 months ago

Nacka, Sweden

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Willful ignorance on my part I suppose

AMi @ 2 months ago

Nacka, Sweden

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Malmo is about 6 hours away, I'll say it really loud I

AMi @ 2 months ago

Nacka, Sweden

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Tack tack Skal

AMi @ 2 months ago

Nacka, Sweden

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