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The fake news media refuses to report on the terrorist attack in Sweden. It's a good thing Donald takes the truth directly to the people.

jc @ 6 months ago

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Donald trying to dictate to the press, should scare the fùck out of the people. .

H2O @ 6 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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This is what happens when you aren't on the same page with the CIA

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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At least the Swedes have a sense of humor. Swedes scratch heads at Trump's suggestion of major incident: http://bigstory.ap.org/095b070ed4114be88fb9e7776b649e51&utm_source=android_app&utm_medium=copy_to_clipboard&utm_campaign=share

jc @ 6 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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I think that he was briefed on a terror attack in Pakistan. Then he watched a Fox news segment on immigrants in Sweden. He then commingled the two.

jc @ 6 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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The scary part is that he seems to give his intelligence reports and the news reports equal weight.

jc @ 6 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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Swede's have a good sense of humor. It's scary that it seems like he's getting the news first from news reports. I wonder if the WH has a process set up for periodic exchanges of important information for the POTUS.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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welp, there it is http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-sweden-riot-rinkeby-20170221-story.html

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Well, if he made his "last night" statement today, he would look a little less like an idiot. Unfortunately, he made it before anything happened.

jc @ 6 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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like Nostradamus

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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There are issues in Sweden specifically related to their open borders immigration system... just not that particular ebbing

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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evening

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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The event in Sweden had more of a BLM feel to it. Riot after an arrest of an underemployed, over-policed minority.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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Interestingly, in the article you linked AMI: 46 percent of Swedes believed that "refugees in our country are more to blame for crime than other groups." Despite no evidence

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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Trumptadamas

President Not Sure @ 6 months ago

Wright City, MO, USA

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BLM and Swedes, two parallel lines to infinity please expound

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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underemployed and over-policed minority. There's your connection.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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I think unemployable would be more appropriate for many immigrants in Sweden. They take full advantage of their generous welfare system all the while refusing to adopt their language and their culture and adult education programs.

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Crime is much higher in their neighborhoods than anywhere else which is definitely a result of being unemployable, but that circles back to them refusing to become Swedish

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Part of the reason they refuse to become Swedes is actually due to the overly generous welfare system, is there much incentive to even learn Swedish and try to get work if the system allows you to live quite comfortably without it?

The Drew @ 6 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Another problem there is you have phony minors that are really adults yet some Swedish law forbids authorities from taking any evidence of true age except the word of the so-called child's.

The Drew @ 6 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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I think in some cases actually finding work results in such a benefits slash that it's like a massive penalty to find the low paying job (which is one of the major steps in a path for successful integration).

The Drew @ 6 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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It's a big reason why integration efforts have worked so poorly in Scandinavia. & not to forget blowback from ethnic natives who see newcomers and their offspring as never having contributed into the system like they (or their families) have.

The Drew @ 6 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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And contribute heavily they have

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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@Drew and AMI - are those feels or reals though? What does the data show?

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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via the Infallible Muslim statistics: https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/sweden-ten-times-higher-welfare-dependency-among-16-5-foreign-born-an-increase-of-82/

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Should've linked the source for that data.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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That site uses data from https://affes.wordpress.com/ Wonderfully neutral site. Just perusing the infographics on the site, they rely on old data (2005) a lot to try to make their case about crime overrepresentation.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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The actual report: https://www.bra.se/download/18.cba82f7130f475a2f1800012697/2005_17_brottslighet_bland_personer_fodda_sverige_och_utlandet.pdf English summary starts on page 70.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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This report is the source of a lot of the scary Swedish immigrant crime stats. You may be shocked that the report doesn't exactly match the rhetoric.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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Unemployment info: https://www.statista.com/statistics/528421/sweden-foreign-born-population-by-employment-status/

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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To cut to the chase, employment % of foreign born in Sweden is stable/slightly up despite the influx of immigrants that last few years. Doesn't quite fit the "Failed welfare state" narrative.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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wrong, foreign born unemployment which includes everyone not Swedish born (not just Muslims) is consistently more than twice the rate of the total average gypsies have recently joined the caravan, they flood the shopping districts, parking themselve

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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themselves at storefronts, begging and stealing.... the less shared a culture becomes the weaker a country becomes

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I never said it wasn't consistently higher. I said the rate was stable/slightly improved despite the recent huge influx of Muslims based on actual data. Are you saying the data is wrong?

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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"The less shared a culture becomes..." Interesting assertion. How'd America become so great then?

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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A cohesive umbrella culture over many subcultures The numbers only show the percentages are remaining about the same, not a good thing when foreign born persons have doubled as a percentage of the population in the last 10 years

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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unemployment percentages

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I wouldn't exactly have called it a cohesive culture towards immigrants throughout US history. Italians, Irish, Jews, etc.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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You didn't answer my question though, are you saying the data is wrong? What exactly were you calling "wrong"?

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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Also, despite the Muslim influx - the overall unemployment rate continues to drop. https://ycharts.com/indicators/sweden_unemployment_rate

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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In other words, despite the influx of immigrants with historically higher rates of unemployment, more people are employed on the whole.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying the angle your playing is wrong all those peoples learned English by the second generation and adopted cultural norms supplemental to their own

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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And we're talking about first generation immigrants here. Who's to say second generation won't learn Swedish? Comparing 1st and 2nd gen is apples and oranges.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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we will see, that's entirely possible

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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"No Irish need apply"

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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just like second gen Mexicans here

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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You know, my boss is on a couple international trade boards there in Sweden... we have some good discussions on topics such as these... I'll ask his opinion on Swedes hiring immigrants... his opinion would be more than anecdotal

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I'd be interested to hear what he says. All I'm saying is that the data doesn't show the doom and gloom that is discussed - making it appear more like veiled anti-immigrant sentiment.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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it's not overwhelmingly positive either, the truth usually lies somewhere in the valley

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Overwhelmingly positive? No. But the data doesn't remotely show Sweden circling the drain as the "failed welfare state" label being thrown about would imply.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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like I said, somewhere in the valley

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Failed state |----------x-----| Socialist utopia

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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Nice graphic

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I do what I can.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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that headline was a joke right

-the thinker @ 6 months ago

Charter Township of Clinton, MI, USA

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Be careful with the foreign-born stat because loads of the Swedish speaking Finns would be included there, not really what people are talking about.

The Drew @ 6 months ago

Northwest Harbor, NY 11937, USA

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It's interesting about immigrant crime stats taboo though, (that is if the NR article is correct). http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445237/sweden-crime-rates-statistics-immigration-trump-fox-news

The Drew @ 6 months ago

Northwest Harbor, NY 11937, USA

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Re Finns- true, but there hasn't been a surge in Finn's. In the last few years and the employment ratio is still stable.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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Good article. I'd be skeptical of the NTU survey because of self selection bias with these type of surveys in general. Regardless, because the absolute numbers are so low, a good IJ or grad student could dig through

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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Stories on murders over the last few years in the Swedish press to extract immigration status of criminal and victim. Similar efforts have been done for police shootings in the US.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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That is, of course, if they *want* to know.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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immigration from non Muslim countries has kept pace with those from Muslim countries. So while foreign born percentage of population has increased, it doesn't necessarily mean that the percentage of Muslims has. So it would be difficult to join

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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you in your conclusion that Muslim immigration is not increasing unemployment. Conversely it could be said that they are keeping it higher.

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Immigration from non Muslim countries had not kept pace in the last few years. That's falsifiable and you're wrong. https://www.statista.com/statistics/522136/sweden-immigration-by-country-of-origin/

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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sorry, you're correct, I was looking at a long term stat I'll go back to sleep now

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I think a lot of European governments are covering up stats on links between immigration and crime for fear of triggering stuff like the Swedish Democrats. But I think instead they are actually exacerbating that situation

The Drew @ 6 months ago

Northwest Harbor, NY 11937, USA

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big test of immigration coming this fall in Germany

H2O @ 6 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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i agree drew. imaginations be running wild

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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The truth is it will be another 15 years before we know if Sweden becomes a divided country or not

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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http://www.mediaite.com/online/oreilly-issues-correction-over-guest-who-was-identified-as-swedish-national-security-adviser/ Gotta stoke those immigration fears anyway you can.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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You know immigration isn't a benign thing. I'm sure you're aware of this. It can have both positive and negative effects.

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Of course. OTOH, stirring up immigration fears can be dangerous. For example, don't be Indian in Kansas.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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I love my Indian neighbors, they are almost always very well educated, build nice homes which lowers the property tax burden for everyone else, and I've grown to love butter chicken with vegetable biryani

AMi @ 6 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Delicious. Many of my Indian colleagues put up with an insane amount of racist bullshït from idiots who think they're Muslim immigrants.

Tjaden Froyda @ 6 months ago

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well some are lol, in all seriousness though that's very sad

AMi @ 6 months ago

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