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First order of busy by the GOP was to disband the ethnic committee. To prevent political witch-hunt. How ironic. That's all they did the last six years.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

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Ethnic committee, I see what you did there!

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I do believe that the Democrats created this secret investigative group. .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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Nancy Pelosi BTW, Trump was critical of the move

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Ended up failing badly, so that's good.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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It's good it failed badly. The attempt begs lots of questions about intent, though. That swamp won't drain itself...

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Intent? Swamp creature self-preservation.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

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"ahhh our shít is gonna be drained! Plug it up!"

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

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After being their offices were flooded by phone calls, the lesson learned was that they need to try again later this year. This is why we can't have nice things.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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How effective is this agency and were the changes warranted?

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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Sounds like some changes are warranted, but how would you judge an independent ethics watchdog's effectiveness?

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Not sure. I would look at their investigations, and the results. Ive read where they don't have subpoena power, so how effective can they be? Ive also read where they have been accused of public witch hunts.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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From the little I've read, I'm not impressed with their results. The Maxine Waters investigation has been touted as both a failure and a success of the agency. I guess it depends on your perspective.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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The very fact that no one seems to know exactly what they've done that's made a difference, if anything, is a big red flag

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I'd buy that if the proposed changes were supposed to give the watchdog more teeth. Instead, they wanted to limit it's independence and prevent disclosure of findings.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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That would put a muzzle on the agency created in a response to the Abramoff scandal.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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@AMI - According to Rep Steve King, "It has damaged or destroyed a lot of political careers in this place". The real red-flag is the attempted removal of the independence of the watchdog.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Hey I'm sure a Republican Congress is capable of policing themselves, unlike Democrats, so they don't need an independent group for that. Plus, it's really inconvenient.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Quintana Roo, Mexico

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https://youtu.be/AVUMq4YYgZ8

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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The committee has an equal number of members from each party, unlike the rest of the committees, which are constituted with the majority of members and the committee chair coming from the party that controls the House.

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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This is obviously important to consider, so essentially anything devious happening in the House that gets covered up would have to be something that is bipartisan.

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Certainly possible, but I think time has shown that the major parties love to call the other out on anything that might give them a political advantage.

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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@AMI - The Federal Election Commission has a similar makeup - 3 from each party and majority vote required for any action. It's feckless.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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This other "independent" committee was not a long standing institution, what evidence do we have that Congress was less ethical prior to its creation? I'm not against holding congressmen accountable, I am against ineffective redundancies

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Ethical Congress.. Honest lawyer. Icy hot. Jumbo shrimp.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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Well, the independent watchdog was created in response to the Abramoff scandal. Its independence is what makes it not redundant.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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What is the litmus test for proper independence?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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My take: If the inquiries could be prone to political interference, then it's needed. The proposed changes would have given the HEC the ability to shut down an investigation. Huge red flag.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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To put it another way: Stop investigating our swamp, we're shutting you down.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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fine by me as long as it can be agreed that it's a bipartisan swamp

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Of course it is.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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"But our swamp is different"

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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Well, everyone likes the smell of their own ####.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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really? I can't stand any shìtty smell. .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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