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So here we are, we made it through 8 years of Obama. I asked this once before but now that we are at the end and some time has passed.... what overall letter grade would you give President Obama?

AMi @ 8 months ago

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B+ disregarding he has the highest approval at the end of his term than his last five predecessors.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

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OK, I'd give him a B/C B for domestic policy C for foreign policy

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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B-/C. Maybe an E for effort. A lot of his ideas were held hostage by congressional leaders from both parties. All in all, history will treat him well.

jc @ 8 months ago

Pinto Palomino, Las Vegas, NV

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C/D- . nothing else to be said .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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the only reason he gets treated well by history is because he's the first oreo in chief . probably the last for a few decades too .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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H20,, Bush will be blamed for the crash. Obama for the recovery. That will be the thing that historians will glom onto.

jc @ 8 months ago

Las Vegas, NV, USA

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Glom, nom, nom

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Junior high historians??? True historians will consider many more factors than just who was President at the start of a horrible recession, and who during a slow a tepid recovery

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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You give historians too much credit.

jc @ 8 months ago

Las Vegas, NV, USA

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you might be confusing historians with history teachers??

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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anyways, Obama did a decent job domestically considering the incredible mess he was handed.. I do think he was saved from going too far left policy wise after 2010

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I think much less of his state department and their foreign policy work, Bush made a mistake invading Iraq, Obama took that mistake and made it worse

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I think most would rate him at just above average for reasons that would be wide ranging... anyone giving him an A would be just as blind as someone giving him an F

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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now AMI, the Texas telephone operator hasn't listed his grades yet. even though we all know how he'll grade bo. .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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first comment, he gave a B+

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Yeah i see the powder blue wearing gay force power range, is sounding confused again.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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B-

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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it's over,I made it :-)

Mr. Pink @ 8 months ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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letter grade Pink?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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C+/C- Largely ineffective. Incredibly divisive and a train wreck abroad.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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A+ for opening our eyes A+ for gay queer and undecided rights A+ for destroying Hillary's chance at the precedentcy

Mr. Pink @ 8 months ago

North Royalton, OH 44133, USA

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thanks for destroying the curve

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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sorry

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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I don't see how Democrats can realistically give Obama high marks, he's left the party pretty decimated over his two terms. Everything was about himself, and he yanked funds and human resources away from the party for that OFA thing.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Overall quality of life now is on par, maybe a little worse, to how things were before the recession. A slow, meandering recovery. He didn't make things worse, but they aren't really better either. Things just are

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Personally I think it won't be clear how his legacy will be until at least a little bit after he's gone.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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This country on better financial footing than when took office. This recovery was slowed by the obstruction republican congress, that kept their word to block everything, country and their constituents be damned.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Everything good that happened... That's Obama. Anything bad that happened, that's Republicans. Got it.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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life is simple when you live by simple rules

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Basically!! Truer words have never been spoken Drew. What have the republicans in Congress done to improve or speed up the recovery. Except complain!!!

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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My God you are such a caricature

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Fat hillbilly in overalls

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Pink, presidency.

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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I'll give him a B- for home. I won't blame him for how things have turned out internationally, but I'm really done with the ignorant, secretive hawkishness of the Obushma presidency. My gut tells me F, but I think that's not quite right.

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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precedentcy is the presidency

Mr. Pink @ 8 months ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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Obushma Obamump??

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Baronald

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Great deflection! Still did not address the statement what has the republicans done to improve the recovery the last eight years. The tangerine tinted buffoon has added another wall street swamp man to his team. How f-ing stupid do you all feel

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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now. Voted for this sideshow clown, because he accused Secy Clinton of being in the pocket of wall street. His head so far up wall street azz, everytime he breathes he make sh!t bubbles.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Are you looking forward to your first stop and frisk?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I don't feel stupid at all. Anyone else?

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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I dunno man, you don't feel just a little bit dumber after reading the above posts?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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That's a given, but I don't think that was what he was going for...

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Can you pinpoint what he was going for?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUultIb2pPc

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Someone needs to bring back Soul Train

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Well you look stupid Skal, Only thing that sexual predator and Bernie Sanders have in common are they are older White men.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

McKinney, Austin, TX

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Ami, American Bandstand was the only thing you were allowed to watch. Do you mean your stop and frisk statement. Yes you should.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

McKinney, Austin, TX

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Yes they are older white men. Congratulations, you have eyes.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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I dunno, weren't some of the states that Bernie did very well in key for Cheeto to secure presidency?

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Shouldn't that have been a warning sign? Or were the Russians blocking the signal?

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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In Russia signal blocks you

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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That was because of sexism and racism Drew. Duh.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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http://nypost.com/2016/12/22/ivanka-trump-berated-on-jetblue-flight/

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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just imagine if that were Obama's family.... wtf is wrong with people

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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The same thing that is wrong with the people that voted for that sexual predator.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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So that was the deciding factor for voting for him skal, or his underwhelming policies. Sorry he wasn't an older white man, he tangerine color, was that it.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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If that's what Dems (<- perjorative) are going to hang their hats on, they are going to continue to lose.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Since the election, there have been interviews published with groups of white working class voters from the rust belt. They were angry at the health law/healthcare costs, globalism, and didn't trust anything HRC said.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Frustration with the way Washington works and the allure of Trump's business acumen were big factors.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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The interviews were full of cognitive dissonance and Trump's perceived strengths debatable, but to hang your hat on sexism and racism is missing a lot.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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These same voters voted for Obama twice, but now they're racist? GMAFB.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Erm it was a dormant racism?

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Skal, your comments really doesn't justfiy your extreme shift from Bernie Sanders's progressive agenda to the orange face buffoon racist, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, Islamophobic and Alternative right negative message. You have plenty of

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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company from others like you, who fell for bullsh!t policies. One question what policy of Bernie's you like, that the sexual predator in chief will implement. Sen. Sanders and Secy Clinton had more in common policy wise, than tangerine tinted man.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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How is he homophobic?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Just like African-Americans who voted for White Democrat candidates their whole voted life before Obama. Were called racist, only voted for him because of his race. Alot of white male democrat voted for trump because he an orange man.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Why did 85% African-American voters, vote for Secy Clinton she wasn't African-American. Could it truly be she a Democrat.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Wow, you only picked one, but you still voted for him. Oh I'm sorry he was caught holding the Gay pride flag upside down. My Mistake!

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Are you in a troll apprenticeship?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Let me stop you right there. I never shifted to Trump.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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seriously man, what does your name mean???? I've tried sounding it out and.... nothing

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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https://www.howtopronounce.com/tjaden-froyda/ https://www.howtopronounce.com/schadenfreude/

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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tack

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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GMAFB, I think this means "give me a frosty beer". B, you completely missed Skal's point, but I'd bet you know that. I know it doesn't confirm to some generated agenda, and I also know it's a challenge for you to post outside of that agenda.

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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Personally, I hope you're getting paid for this.

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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Seriously... give me a frosty beer

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I'd give Obama a B+ domestically, C in foreign policy. The economic recovery was also affected by an economic sea change, with the loss of jobs that won't return as the economy picks up steam. Not Obama's fault but it made the recovery flaccid.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Foreign policy went poorly I think, particularly given the goodwill of so many countries upon his election. Obama squandered an opportunity there and ended up fúcking up the middle east stuff. Not like Bush, nothing is better than it was 8 years ago

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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So you weren't a Bernie supporter during the Democrat's presidential primary Skal. No Underwater I know exactly what he meant. People that suppose to have conviction, are proving they don't on here.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Would any male on here let their daughter date or give their blessing for to marry a man, that had a history of treating women as a sex object just for his pleasure.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gmafb I'll take that frosty beer though

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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I was a Bernie supporter. I was never a Trump supporter. Why's that so hard for you to understand?

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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You were the first person to address my comment about feeling stupid about votig for that orange face draft dodging buffoon for POTUS. If you did not support Secy Clinton you supported him.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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I've made it well known on here that I voted Gary. A vote for Gary was never a vote for Trump. It was a vote FOR Gary. No one else. Get that through your thick skull.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Try this once. Grab a sheet of paper and make three columns labeled Hillary, Trump, and Gary. Put a tally in Gary's column and stare at it the rest of the day. I bet it doesn't transfer over to Trump. Prove me wrong.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Now he'll criticize Johnson for his Aleppo gaff while ignoring the fact that Clinton is largely responsible for the death and destruction there give me a frosty beer!

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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My meme is taking hold! spread it my children! and get me a frosty beer!

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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oh! so you DO get paid for this stuff. congrats.

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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Put on your yarmulke, here comes Hanukkah.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Ami, Secy Clinton did not firing one shot in Aleppo. Aleppo is the cause of their President Assad, and the Puppet Master Putin. Let's blame bush than for attacking Iraq, which destabilized the whole region.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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No! Why don't you try and vote for the person that has views closest to the candidate you supported in the primaries. The same candidate that wrote 75% of the Democratic party's platform. Gary Johnson is a Republican that smoke weed, the rest of

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Oh good, you're back. How'd it turn out staring at the paper all day? Did the vote move? When you're done, go ahead and shove it up your äss.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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his veiws are in lock step with the conservative wing of the republican party.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Like many people, I didn't trust much of what Hillary said. She earned that.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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let's see your isidewith results bhaven

AMi @ 8 months ago

Richton Park, IL, USA

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put up or shut up

AMi @ 8 months ago

Richton Park, IL, USA

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Post yours too.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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https://www.isidewith.com/results-image/elections/2016-presidential/2948441744.jpg

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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Will do

AMi @ 8 months ago

Richton Park, IL, USA

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No need i side with Secy Clinton, President Obama.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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So taco bowl agrees with grabbing women by the pu**y, his homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, Islamophobic, and racist veiws. Not surprising.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/2948520319

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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isidewith.com

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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go take it

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Bernie Sanders at 50% Rick Santorum was lowest at 10%

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Answer well change a lot depending on how you answer the last question: which party do you identify with the most? That's really not a great question for giving you an honest assessment of where your position on issues aligns.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I put "Socialist" as the answer and bingo, 99% alignment with Stein.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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So it's pretty accurate.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/2948634196 .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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Doc, the last question is optional, just skip it

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Hillary 91% on foreign policy, healthcare, economic, 95% Stein on the environment, and immigration. The orange buffoon 10%, Gary Johnson 26%.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

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Yeah I'm really a none-of-the-above anyway, former Democrat I guess.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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100% Bernie Sanders. lol no surprises there I guess.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Bernie was only 69% here.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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100%, that's impressive, very unlikely but obviously possible

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Bernieho.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Why don't Bhaven or Doc post their results?

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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I wrote the results out. Only you agree with the sexual predator in chief policy of grabbing women by the pu**y.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Far North Dallas, Dallas, TX

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You gave a portion of your results, your actual percentages were not clear

AMi @ 8 months ago

Naperville, IL, USA

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How much clearer can 95%, 91%, 26%, and 10% be.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Far North Dallas, Dallas, TX

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Post the link, like everyone else.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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I'm guessing your numbers were a lot higher for trump than you're willing to admit. I would suggest you go back and try again with more left leaning answers to prove to yourself that you're not. LMAO

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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That's what I suspect as well.... probably more around 50% for Trump

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Sorry you can believe what you want, I'm surprise it 10%. I'm apart of 65.8 million Americans that knew he was f-ing clown. Taco Bowl you're the only person on this app that believes his lies. How do feel about Wall Street/Exxon and big

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Far North Dallas, Dallas, TX

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money donors influence in his cabinet. The same lie he accused Secy Clinton of doing, you fell for it.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Far North Dallas, Dallas, TX

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The poll I took doesn't say anything about believing anyone's lies. It asked my position on various policy questions which I answered. I'm more conservative minded than you guys, so that's to be expected.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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My biggest issue with Trump, and the reason that I didn't vote for him, was that I believe he's too liberal. His campaign stances, I largely agreed with. I didn't think he would stick to them. Some of which I was correct

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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Time will tell

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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I hope he takes a hard right stance on many policies. Especially on fiscal issues. The more he does, the happier I'll be.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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I still don't believe your numbers. I won't until you post. Which I know you won't.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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But we know why.

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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Numbers are what I posted. I have been with Secy Clinton from the start. I even wrote the number down as they broke them down on the quiz. I'm true to my convictions.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Far North Dallas, Dallas, TX

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LMAO

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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I took the quiz pretending I was a big government progressive and here are my results: http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/2948520319

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Not big government, just a common sense approach on life. Treating people the way you want to be treated.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Northwest Dallas, Dallas, TX

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That's as stupid as pretending to be a fascist to try to get 100% Trump.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Or 100% Sanders

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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I was only attempting to recreate B's results

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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With isidewith, it really depends on how you weight questions and how far you wade into the extra questions and extra answers in each topic. If you know your candidates positions well you can game the poll

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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95% Stein, 91% Clinton, 26% Johnson, 10% trump.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Red Oak, TX, USA

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I answered all questions with no extra or reduced weight on any answer

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I did run into the wall head first beforehand in order to get into the right state of mind

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Pics or it didn't happen (bhaven, not Ami headbutting a wall)

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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lol

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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That explains your voting for trump. You're still suffering from CTE.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Waxahachie, TX 75167, USA

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You know for certain that AMI voted Trump? Or are you still hallucinating about votes magically jumping from anyone not named Hillary to Trump?

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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If that makes you feel good about your lack of voting for the only two viable candidates that had a chance. Your vote was like staying home.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Milford, TX 76670, USA

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I didn't vote Trump, but I did vote for a local Democrat if that makes you feel better

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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There is no rule saying "vote for one of the two viable options." Both sucked, so I didn't vote for either one.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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that's the point of voting, to be able to vote for the candidate that is the best match... not the candidate most likely to win

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Tammy Duckworth if so thanks. So you truly didn't vote.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Waco, TX

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Did he cast a vote: Yes. Then he truly voted.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Your candidate lost Bhaven, does that mean you truly didn't vote?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

And I actually did vote for Duckworth, mainly because Kirk did not deserve reelection

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Not for the POTUS, that vote counted as much as writing a name on tissue paper than putting a match to it.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

East Riverside, Waco, TX

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65.8 million Americans voted against the orange face buffoon, majority of the voting public knew he was bad for the country. He the second to loss the popular vote to be declared the winner.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

East Riverside, Waco, TX

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Bush loss by 500k, sexual predator by 3 million. We all know how that turned out 9\11 and the worse financial crisis since the great depression.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

University, Waco, TX

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Can't deny that chain of logic

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

AMI - how does the electoral college work again?

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/its-official-clintons-popular-vote-win-came-entirely-from-california/

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The electoral college is designed to prevent any one state or region from being able to monopolize policy by providing a proportioned voice to lesser populated States

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

It protects against group think and the prioritization of region specific interests (which is what Senators are for)

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Right. To win the EVs for IL and MN, what threshold needs to be crossed?

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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A simply majority of votes 5% to be considered as an established party

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Imagine Hillary had won the presidency by winning the electoral college but without the popular vote (John Kerry nearly did this in 2004). We'd be seeing all our partisans (including Trump himself) be making the opposite process arguments.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Dems would be waxing poetic about the virtues of our wonderful electoral college which they used to criticize but how now they've seen its wisdom lol.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

And Republicans vice verse although not sure they'd have gone so far and try to lobby the EC electors to jettison how their state voted.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

@AMI - right. Simple majority of votes. One could argue that any vote in excess of that majority doesn't matter. Why throw that vote away when you want more options?

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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The Dems won both the popular and electoral college everytime they won. That last statement is farfetch, only the last two republican were declared by the electoral college, not by the majority of the voting public.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Moody, TX 76557, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

In 2004, Kerry would have been elected if 100K or so votes had changed in Ohio.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Skal, I believe you included the answer in your question. It's very important to consider a third party option especially in a solid blue state such as Illinois

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

If that had happened he'd have "lost" the national popular vote by the same amount of votes Trump did

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Bhaven, we live in a Constitutional Republic. not a Democracy.... it seems that fact is incredibly hard for many to understand and place the blame squarely on our Education system

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

I believe you did too, sir.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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It also makes it much much harder to rig an election....

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I also think it's kinda dumb to speak about the "popular vote" as though we'd have those same results WITHOUT a decisive electoral college lurking in the background.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

So any sane person can accept the wording election results, doesn't mean you have to like it

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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. remove wording.

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Word

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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@bhaven - the electoral college is what matters. She should've thought of that instead of writing off the Midwest to try to run up the pop vote out west for a "historic win."

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Reminds me of the Tortoise and the Hare.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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both matter when you win both, That a sure way to know the majority of the voting public and not just the super voters of the electoral college support your agenda and the declared the winner.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Belton, TX 76513, USA

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Also a surefire way to lose if you don't keep the electoral college in mind and think you somehow need both

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

That's factually incorrect. The only one that matters is the EC. Until the rules are changed, that's all that matters.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Trump could've had everyone in California and New York vote against him and lost by 30 million. Still wouldn't matter. EC win Trump. Change the rules and the game is played differently.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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Sanders wins in the Rust belt should have been loud blaring sirens for Hillary's team but that got ignored. They'll come around, blue wall or something.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Sander didn't win the rust belt Clinton won Ohio and Pennsylvania, Illinois. So that is a bogus argument.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Wisconsin, Michigan?

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Didn't say he won the whole thing, just that Sanders won two key states there. Also that his Michigan win came out of nowhere with the polling on it completely wrong. That should have also been a red flag.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

"Turn that bus around" http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michigan-hillary-clinton-trump-232547

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

"But there also were millions approved for transfer from Clinton’s campaign for use by the DNC — which, under a plan devised by Brazile to drum up urban turnout out of fear that Trump

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

would win the popular vote while losing the electoral vote, got dumped into Chicago and New Orleans, far from anywhere that would have made a difference in the election."

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The Internet is being flooded with anti EC propaganda and it's all based in butt hurt logic

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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When Ohio turned red, it should have been an indication that things were a changin'. The DNC ignored all of those warning signs. They assumed they had the black vote, the union vote, and the female vote. They had a lock on none of them.

jc @ 8 months ago

Pinto Palomino, Las Vegas, NV

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

You know what happens when you assume....

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

http://xkcd.com/1339/

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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lol nice

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I just don't understand Hillary's neglect of Michigan or Wisconsin. Wisconsin thrice elected Scott Walker for crying out loud.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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I've heard that Bill was livid about Hillary ignoring that part of the electorate. Bill may not be your ideal guy, but he has a way of taking the public temperature quickly and accurately.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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He definitely sensed what was going on. Hillary did not. And she persisted with that smug, mama knows best attitude. Bill had to see it coming, but he was fairly well controlled this time. I don't think she listened to him.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Bill is four times the politician Clinton could ever hope to be

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Hillary

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Whatever I'm tired, I need a drink

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Give him a frosty beer! Spotted cow, of course.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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no Fat Tire?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Whatever you want. I'll send u bitcoin again.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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I'll actually be up that way in a couple weeks

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Love visiting Minnesota in January lol

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

It's wonderful. That's why I'll be in Honolulu.

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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very nice

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Wait a second.... Honolulu... Barack are you using one of your sock puppet accounts again?!

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Dammit, my cover is blown!

Tjaden Froyda @ 8 months ago

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I'll be in the Yucatan again. A week of swimming with the sea turtles, yay!

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

F

Angelus @ 8 months ago

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he is being extremely petty in his final month, might have to lower his foreign policy score to a D

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

Angelus! you're back! Get me a frosty beer!

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Spoof!!!

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Quintana Roo, Mexico

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

ami it's not pettiness. He is trying to make it harder for Trump to do some of the things he says he wants to do. They are not small things and issues surrounding them are not petty.

Dr. Evil @ 8 months ago

Quintana Roo, Mexico

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

Evil, if the people wanted more of the illegal liberal extremism, don't you think the house, the Senate or the presidency would be Democrat? . He seems to enjoy, going against the Republic. .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Well one *could* say Bam is still doing what he got reelected to do in 2012 up until when the buzzer finally sounds.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I wonder whether he'd have done what he did with Israel if Hillary had won election.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

The other perspective is that the outgoing president ought to respect voters' wishes at least somewhat and make the transition more seamless (like Dubya did with him)

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

However, Dubya's approval was in the tank at that point and Obama's is higher than Trump's so it's kinda a different ball game.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Also lmao http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/us/politics/obama-donald-trump-election.html?_r=0&referer=http://m.facebook.com/

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Clearly they're a bunch of donkeys but the truth is Trump would have made a huge stink as well if he lost

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Oh of course he would but we always expected Trump to be like that... Wasn't Obama supposed to be a different kinda politician loll.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Petty Commander in Chief

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Pretty sure Bam wouldn't have pulled his Israel thing if Hillary got elected, he'd have left things up to her to decide. I guess he got angry that his election got 'interfered with' and it didn't work with Netanyahu?

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Lenox Hill, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

He's channeling his inner Trump and being a little bítch on the way out.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Yep!

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Sorry President Obama never kissed BeBe or the Israeli government azz from day one. President Obama cut them off the U.S golden teat, and they are mad.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

What do you think though, would Obama have done it if Hillary got elected?

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Yes, because it has always been the U.S. policy for two state solution, and for the Israeli government to stop building settlement in Palestinian territory what little they do have in their own country.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The fact is the Israelis removed ALL settlements beforehand in a trade for peace. But the Palestinians have proven unable to be peaceful thus that agreement was void.

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

That's the deal, the Arabs ultimately don't want a two state solution, they want a one state solution... and that one state isn't Israel

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

It kind hard to fight or destroy a country with the bricks or rocks from your home destroyed by fighter jets, and Artillery from the Israeli occupation force.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

That land was Palestine before 1948 UN resolutions.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

It was British protectorate for a brief period between the fall of the Ottoman Empire (they chose the wrong side in the War) and in the period after WW2 when both the Jews and Arabs forced the British out. The land was up for grabs and instead of

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

sharing the land, the Jews and Arabs fought for it, the Jews won and then they continued winning.

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The land has shifted ownership countless times throughout history, to say that either group has a clear claim on the land is being intellectually lazy....

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Also based on how the Palestinians conduct their business and who they choose to lead, can you say we'd be better off if the power balance was reversed

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

it was the Land of Canaan on the Continent of Africa bordering Egypt. Jew won with help of U.S. military equipment.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

It probably wouldn't be a problem if their land wasn't being occupy, by European forced to leave Europe by the Nazi or other Fascist governments.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

US policy is for a two state solution but before Obama pulled what he just did, the policy was Israel and Palestine had to work through it together (at least at some point in time) NOT for the UN to dictate terms over disputed territory

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Israel pulled out of Gaza, they installed Hamas and then pulled their usual #### with the rockets and terrorist tunnels

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Let's see... 1. Yes, but it was also considered Israel, Judea, Babylon, Persia, Roman, and many others. 2. That's not Africa, not now, not ever 3. The Arabs were assisted by the Soviet Union, so whatever regarding the US helping Israel

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

4. Their land isn't being occupied, Israel is an Internationally recognized, sovereign country... this does not fit the definition of an occupation

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

You clearly bought into a lot of Nazi propaganda during your stay (or should I say occupation) in Germany, it's obvious you want the Jewish state to cease to exist

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I think it's actually from his time in NOI

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

This is all because of the UN 1948 resolutions that Israel even exist. How did they pull out of Gaza, but continue to build settlement. Sorry never been in the Nation of Islam.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Harker Heights, TX, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Sound like you all have been brainwashed by Israeli government bs propaganda machine.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Harker Heights, TX, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

^^^^ not to be confused with his undying support of hamas & plo. . they are an innocent & misunderstood people's .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Prime example of being under the Israeli brainwashed machine. Lets act like the Israeli are innocent victims in this one sided situation. With all the military firepower.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

this is an emotional topic, it would appear.

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Baldwin Park, CA, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The Navajo don't send suicide bombers and launch missiles into Phoenix because it's now part of the USA.

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I just keep going back to what Israel got in return for giving up control of Gaza.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

A bunch of missiles and governments who are butt buddies with terrorist organizations or terrorists themselves

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

United States doesn't send B-1 or B-2 bombers on sorties on Navajo reservations. Even those the government has broken their treaty with the Native American people.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

I imagine the US does so because they hate brown people

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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What did the Palestinian people get from the 1948 UN resolution bring Israel in exist Drew.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

a bunch of land which they and several other Arab countries from which they decided to launch a war against Israel, which they lost ... whoops

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

here you go educate yourself https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

I often forget that Jews living in other parts of the region were expelled from their homes and forced into Israel

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

If you're bringing up 1948 as some kinda mistake, then ya must not think Israel ought to exist in the first place. So then it's not really about any two state solution, just about Israel should go away

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Exactly Drew, the only solution is the final solution

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

six day war happen in the 60's, Ami 18 years after the 48 resolution. That was over Suez canal. Why should they exist in someone else's territory or land.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Palestinian people was there long before the UN stepped in. So where did the Palestinian right to exist on their land vanish too. Why did the UN feel Palestine was the solution for persecuted European Jewish people.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

But that happened already so ya can't undo it.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Should Israel cease to exist *now* because of something you think was done wrong in 1948?

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Just let the Hamas and friends take over, I'm sure they'll respect the women, the cultural artifacts of the region, and people's religious freedoms.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Bhitler doesn't believe the Jews have an equal right to the land because he doesn't believe their ancestral tree is rooted in that region. he believes they came someplace in Russia

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

but, of course, that's way out there I know when the six day war happened Bhaven, here's the true history of travel https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Jews-leave-the-Holy-Land

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Maybe there should be a blood quantum test, and the Jews that can pass, they'll be allowed to stay as Dhimmis or something.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

So should the Palestinian people cease to exist, since their land was already taken from them by the UN. What do we truly know about Hamas other then propaganda from the western/Israel media. That protray the Israeli as victim in this matter.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

wow

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

So if you know the history, there shouldn't be any problem with you acknowledging Jesus was a Palestinian Jew. That didn't look like a European blue eye, blonde hair man as the western have you to believe.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Don't you understand that you're being hypocritical. That you would rail against anything that's not far left here but be a defender of one of the most extreme right organizations in the world

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Keep going, this is interesting

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Hamas = Nazi

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

I love when you don't conform to bs rhetoric, or bend over and kiss Israel azz you are hitler. Hitler also has a secret he didn't what the world to knew he was "JUDE".

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

he was what?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

maybe you should read Drew's link above and take your rhetoric talk elsewhere

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Maybe the solution is as simple as this. https://youtu.be/ewPHKi-Q04c

jc @ 8 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

lol

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Niether did Protestants and Catholics of Northern Ireland.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Drew link was translated into english by whom?

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

So it right to wonder why the oppressed Palestinian people don't have the same right to exist, as you the oppressors Israeli government has.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

What's your solution Bhaven?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I dunno they seem to be busy oppressing themselves, using their dead as political fodder. Why else would they hide rockets in schools, avoid building shelters etc?

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Still waiting on that solution....

AMi @ 8 months ago

Elmhurst, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

So is the rest of world Ami. How were the Palestinians living in that region prior to 1948, or the Jew in Europe?

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

you got nothing, nothing at all

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

nieither do you. But Israel can stop building settlement in Palestinian territory.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Truth is there was a two state solution created over a half century ago. Jews go to Israel and they did, Palestinians go to Jordan and many chose to fight the creation of Israel. The Arabs have never truly been

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

interested in a two state solution and that's been proven over and over again. John Kerry is a blithering idiot

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Kerry is just the last in a long line of idiots pursuing the two state solution. The Arab nations need Israel to rally their people. It's not likely there will be a new issue that has that much rallying power.

jc @ 8 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

true JC

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Why should they go to Jordan when this was their land. Them moving a one state. How about they go back to the European country they came from, and let Palestinian stay in Palestine.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Bhaven, , The simple answer is that they lost the fu€king war. That's how wars work. If they had beaten Israel, I'm fairly certain that any remaining jews would have been back on boats looking for a new home.

jc @ 8 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

So your solution is to expel all Jews away from their homeland back and turn them into refugees

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

back to Europe where they were expelled to during the oppression of the Roman and Ottoman Empires

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

simple as that, wars have consequences, especially when you lose one that YOU start

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

There wouldn't have been a war if they could've stay in europe. If someone came to take your land you would fight back too, regardless if you're out gunned. it wasn't their homeland. You heard the saying the Jews left people of color, came back

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

white European.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Bhaven,,,, You would have to go back to WWI to acheive that . Great Britton controlled palestine as a colony and continually sent european jews to palestine right up to the formation of Israel.

jc @ 8 months ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

And what about the Mizrahi Jews, where do they go? Like they'd be able to stay in Hamassistan

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown, New York, NY

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

If the colonists would have stayed in Europe.....

Taco Bowl @ 8 months ago

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wonder where bmoron Is? . http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-bomb-threat-jewish-center-maitland-20170104-story.html .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Whatever I'm doing you can believe it not kissing Israel azz. like some people on this app. Israel doesn't give a sh!t about the U.S. or their people. They only care about that 4B dollar welfare check.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Drew where ever they came from, because it wasn't from the Egypt, Palestine region. JC your last comments just confirmed my argument. Hysteria feels embolden by the racist swamp man taking over the WH.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Killeen, TX 76543, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

You are obsessed with skin color, obsessed I say!

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I'll indulge it. Type Mizrahi Jew into Google images, the skin color is actually pretty dark. Those are the ones most recently from Arab lands & Israel area before its creation.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

facts I say!. How did a blue eyed, blonde hair family hide out in Egypt, against religious persecution. Egypt is a country in the Africa.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

McKinney, Austin, TX

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Like I statement the Jews left dark, came back white European.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

McKinney, Austin, TX

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

The link just verify my statement.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

McKinney, Austin, TX

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I could be wrong but I think you read the part you wanted, decided it 'verify' your statement and then came back over here. http://www.israellycool.com/2014/06/14/reader-post-jews-and-race-the-skin-color-argument-in-anti-israel-discourse/

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Next on Love Trumps Hate http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/227116738-story

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Skin color argument is just the latest stupidity, like some kinda reverse brown paper bag test for a country rather than just a black frat or sorority.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Only to the people still trying to justify their blue eyed, blonde hair myth of European Jews to Palestine or Canaan over the rightful owners. Sorry your frat, sorority argument is bogus, there isn't any all black Greek org. maybe chapters for the

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

most part they are integrated. I can't said that about white frats or sororities.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

How blonde, blue eyed Jews do you see? None? OK then, that's settled

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

They were charged for a crime, and were not giving excuses like white criminals as having youthful exuberance. Even in their 30's.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

You're just an old bitter, angry man...you are a man right??? Anyways, I'm sure things have happened to you that made you that way. That's unfortunate, but hopefully you can find peace before it's too late

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Plenty came from Europe to Palestine.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Nope, not really, no evidence of that whatsoever

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Regardless your premise is flawed as light skinned persons have always existed in the middle East, and Asia Minor

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

First the Jews weren't white enough for Europe, now they are too white for Israel...

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Bhaven comparing how a white Olympian was judged for pissing on a gas station to the fact that black kids tortured a mentally disabled white man ... but they were arrested, so it's all good right?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

who is to blame for such hate?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

let us not become equals by devolving into the lowest common denominator

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Bitter for speaking the truth. thanks I'll stay bitter than.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Still curious what you think should be "done" about Israel.

The Drew @ 8 months ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

Not just him, the kids in Idaho, the Stanford case, the kid is Texas. they invent a defense for him.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

stop asking Drew, he has no answers, only "truths"

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

You never heard me say anything was all good. treat all criminals activities the same.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

U.S. should stop the welfare checks, the Israeli should stop building settlement in the Palestinian people territory. Has anyone seen the raw uncut treatment of the Palestinian refugees in their own country. It you hit a dog enough time it will

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

strike back.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

I do not see Israel as a victim in this situation, they have all the advantages.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

West Oak Hill, Austin, TX

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Yeah.... what do you think would happen to 4 white kids caught torturing a disabled black man? What do you think would happen in the streets?

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

the Israelis and Palestinians both are at fault, I recognize this, but it doesn't seem you place any blame at all on the Arabs

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

They got a slap on the wrist in Idaho, wasn't even concerned a hate crime. They sexually assaulted a mentally challenged African American student.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Circle C Ranch, Austin, TX

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

not too proud to admit when you're right, that boy should have had a tougher sentence, someone was pulling strings to make a plea deal possible...

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

we'll see what happens to these four

AMi @ 8 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

They will get prison time, they earned it.

Bhaven87 @ 8 months ago

Escarpment Village, Austin, TX 78749

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

they'll get off, they are from Chicago and look like Obama. . "The retard deserved a beating and torture, for gitmo and brown" .

H2O @ 8 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

http://heatst.com/culture-wars/twitter-radicals-exonerate-black-teens-who-tortured-young-white-man-in-chicago/?link=TD_heatst_articles.47942 . It just doesn't get any better, then this

H2O @ 8 months ago

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Twitter is the new normal.

UndrWater @ 8 months ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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