Why do police officers handcuff people they just killed, screaming and seem upset they can't turn over or put their hands behind their back.
@ about 1 year ago
Killeen, TX 76543, USA
Because Police Officers aren't Medical Examiners.
@ about 1 year ago
come on Taco we're trying to be serious here .
B, why do you think they do such things?
@ about 1 year ago
Strongsville, OH, USA
They are not a judge or a jury, but they still convict people to death.
@ about 1 year ago
It's time for Robocop
@ about 1 year ago
McLean, IL 61754, USA
People convict themselves to death by their actions.
yep put your hands up and they won't shoot
not according to BLM
@ about 1 year ago
Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA
all BLM does is lie
Tremont, Cleveland, OH
What actions did a sleeping nine year girl do to cause her death by the police, or 12 year old in the park.
As for the 9 year old girl, you'll have to blame Chauncy Owens, & Charles & Mertilla Jones for creating the situation that caused her tragic death. A family of savages that should never have children.
I won't rehash the 12 year old in the park playing with a gun again. That's been discussed at length. Your omission of the gun speaks volumes.
It was the wrong HOUSE. Savage like the 71% Caucasian cop killers.
You omitting it was a toy, speaks volume. Kids been playing with toy gun all my 55 Years on this earth.
plc in a nutshell
@ about 1 year ago
Wrong house? What 9 year old girl are you talking about?
And the police did t know it was a toy gun. Shame on his savage parents for failing to supervise him.
it looks like the police department didn't supervised their unqualified and mentally unstable rookie. Which cost the DA his job and the millions of dollars.
Temple, TX, USA
Sorry she was seven when shot and killed in her sleep, due to SWAT raiding the wrong house.
aiyana jones. Whose father was convicted of murder. There murder that brought the police there . It's tragic that her grandmother acted stupidly . It's tragic that she lived with criminals
But the officer was never convicted of anything. Just like Hillary. So he's completely innocent, isn't he?
I think BLM should protest the gang war in Chicago that has claimed hundreds of black lives this year. Get into the nitty gritty of it all
Villa Park, IL, USA
Black Lives only Matter if it's a cop that takes them
@ about 1 year ago
Yorkville, New York, NY
This country has gone full retard
Drew the normal comment from a caucasian U.S. citizen. Officers are never convicted of killing a sleeping child. Even when they admit raiding the wrong house..
What crime has Hillary done to be convicted for. When an African American kills someone, they are put in jail, not giving paid vacation, without any consequences.
so AL Capone was not a criminal until he got convicted of tax fraud?
President Not Sure
@ about 1 year ago
Wright City, MO, USA
quit bringing that stupid argument here
If you have a point, please share. If not, STFU.
Bhavn, as usual, your racism is preventing you from seeing the facts.
Yeah typical response when you can't rebutt my comment with facts. African Americans can't be racist, doesn't have the power to affect an entire race people.
Only facts I see Swat raided the wrong house, and killed a seven years old while sleep in bed, Police Officer didn't suffer any consequences for that senseless killing.
Maybe because he didnt commit a crime. Youre not capable of accepting that. Thats your problem.
"African Americans can't be racist"hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Typical when there isn't a sincere rebuttal.
If I broke in a house "wrong one " and shot and killed a seven years old sleeping in bed, that wouldn't be crime.
what crime should he be charged with?
If you were a police officer and in the course of executing your duties you discharge your firearm when a person lunges for it and as a result a person is killed, that would not be a crime.
I know you and many like you hate our criminal justice system but until you propose a better one, this is the system we have. Are you prepared to propose a better system?
Whats typical when there isnt a sincere rebuttal? That doesn't make sense. Was his lawyer insincere?
They executed their duty in the wrong house. Polices have that bullsh!t get out of jail free card. "i fear for my life, from an unarmed person. I thought they had a weapon. If someone would've shot and killed a police
officer in that house, because they fear for their life. I bet they would be charged with a crime. Accident or not.
African Americans can't be racist, - - that's the absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard.
And they have bones reinforced with naturally occurring carbon fiber.
African Americans can be prejudice, but they do not have the power, infrastructure, or the means to influences the livelihood of an entire races of people. I could careless how it sounds to your culturally condition mindset Drew.
Oh, the ignorance!
Yes, you truly are!
You're telling me those attacks on random whites during the LA Riots weren't racist attacks because Blacks don't have enough power overall? Or that it's also impossible for Asian-Americans to be racists too?
Midtown, New York, NY
Or what about South Africa *post*-Apartheid..... Blacks control the government now right.... Impossible for whitey to be racist anymore in South Africa?
No racist would have been having the power to take the four police officers from the courtroom and hang them from the nearest tree. Without any concern of repercussions
Yeah not racist at all targetting randomers for beating/killing due to skin color... It's uhh another word.
@ about 1 year ago
Ames, IA, USA
Anyone can be a racist, that is, believe in the superiority of one race over another...but minority races don't have the ability to oppress other race(s) based on that belief.
@ about 1 year ago
Lakeland, MN 55043, USA
since Caucasians are already a minority in many areas of the U.S., their hold on power is tenuous. It starts to resemble old South Africa, where a small white minority managed to hold all power.
but because of our system of government, you know that here it should be a matter of time before that power erodes. Unlike South Africa we have no direct way to keep a minority in power. So how's that working out? Do the police look like the
people in the neighborhoods they serve? The power differential starts on the ground and supports the entire infrastructure. Do lawyers and judges reflect racial makeup similar to the areas they serve? Legislatures?
if not, why not? if not, why does anyone think the outcome will be racially blind treatment? If Caucasians hold ever more tenuous power, they are going to act worse as they circle the wagons.
so you're saying whitey will increase the beatings, killings, enslavement of the "current" minority as he himself is reduced to the actual minority?
I dunno Doc.. Perhaps not institutionally but I think at lower levels even members of a race "in power' can get oppressed. Depends on what things look like on a local level.
Sayville, NY, USA
Think about kids at school.
of course they can on a micro-level. Anyone can oppress others. I'm talking on the cultural and socio-economic level, involving populations and averages and other statistics.
To answer your question in short, h2o, yes. that is what I think is going now. financially, politically, white people are acting out in the face of their hopeless frustration at those that don't look like them yet somehow now outnumber them.
and I think you are one of those purple, h2o. I put most Trump supporters in that category: frustrated white people desperately attempting to circle the wagon against those who never had any power but now want some and claim some.
people not purple. lol.
Anyway, I think it's idiotic to redefine racist the way bhaven did, as if racism only exists when its possible on a more macro level.
Also I think Hillary made a serious mistake with the deplorables thing, not that she doesn't have a point. But it's now become a rallying cry, instant Les Mis meme etc.
Yeah, I actually agree with her but it was a terrible thing to say.
The truth hurts Drew. I didn't rewrite the meaning of racist, your white privilege did trying to to find justification for people of color fighting back against their oppressors. If you find yourself in agreement of some of the deplorable crap coming
out of Trump's pie hole about women, Muslim, people of color, the Pope, the military, Gold star family you might fall in that 75% category.
B you're the reason why people vote for Trump. You're also just as openly racist as a Trump supporter, by assuming that all white people have this "privilege". I can tell you family members of mine you say that you're also full of sh!t.
And I'm not going beat around the bush here I am in the middle to upper middle class range. That being said though my dad and mom sure as heck didn't.
My dad was raised in a lower class family in the UK during the 60s. Through hard work and work alone he earned his PhD which nobody on his side of the family and still yet to accomplish.
My mom grew up on a farm in northern MN in 60s aswell. She earned two Master degrees in Business Admin, and Genetics.
I love how the person addressing the racism that still exist in this country is the racist. White privilege isn't a sliver spoon in your mouth, just by the color your skin you're given the benefit. No the ignorance is the reason they vote trump.
The UK as in the United Kingdom in the sixty. He had more rights in this country than my parents born in Georgia in the 1940's. Your my had more freedom and rights than I did born in Georgia in the 60's. Yes they had white privilege compare to
my parents an I. *your mom had more* That's the biggest problem with this white privilege you can't notice what you always had.
I know a black girl born in Atlanta, who makes $50k a year at the age of 28, and lives without fear with her Mexican girlfriend. Her biggest loss was when her older brother got gunned down by a rival gang.
Who claimed that racism exists?
That racism doesn't exist? Sorry.
She got a full ride to a prestigious private school in Vermont despite attending crappy Atlanta public schools. Racism isn't dead, but it is dying.
@bhaven - when's the last time you spoke to a Trump supporter to try to understand why they're voting Trump?
@ about 1 year ago
I guess that public school wasn't as crappy as you claims. It plenty of kids going to crappy public school as you claim getting full ride scholarship in academics.
Wrong, it was a shíthole, but because she wasn't a lazy fûck she made something of herself
Ambition and self education can still bring success in America now more than ever for everyone
What's annoying is when people like B assume all white people or their ancestors are culpable. I remember one of my Armenian friends complaining about that... He's like my family came to Queens in the 70s.. Wtf did they do.
Also B, how come black African immigrants (some which speak horrendous English btw) do so much better than native born? Haitian immigrants as well, upward mobility for them or their children is so much better
And that goes for even the ones with crummy education. They and their children still tend to do better. Quite obvious here in NYC where we got a lot of them.
@Skal everyday. Any more questions. They can never come up with a good reason to justify why they support
@ Ami, wow! I'm impressed you know a black girl, are you going tell me some of your best friends are black.
Also B remember the UK had tons of overseas possessions. The blacks in those places didn't do as well as the very few (increased a lot over decades) that made it to Great Britain. However, GB's colonies did leaps and bounds better than France's.
Annoying how people cite Europe then forget about their possessions abroad
All whites had a 400 year headstart regardless of their economy status compared to African Americans in this country. Drew your ancestors benefited from this unfair system.
@bhaven - how do you judge if their reasons are good enough for your approval?
I keep hearing about this 400 year head start, is that when the world was created? I mean I have my questions about evolution, but that's a bit aggressive
And yes I have four black friends that I talk about basketball with at the office. Jamal, Keith, Byron, and Lil Ray Ray
it only takes a few generations to change.
my grandfather was son of an poor immigrant, completed seventh grade and worked as a farmer in northern MN.
I wouldn't count that as a 400 year head start.
that's not too say there weren't advantages, but it's more complicated than just skin color.
Bhaven, being born in the 60s you surely saw racism first hand. Do you feel that you had a bad life?
I went downtown with the wife yesterday and saw racism first-hand . Fúcking punk thugs are lucky cops were around
North Royalton, OH 44133, USA
No, life's good. I'm just not walking around naive about racism. it the subtle approach in today's America.
@Skal, when they say trump is going to bring jobs back, when everything in his name is made overseas or Mexico. He can start with his factories. When lies about Secy Clinton getting of the second, they fall for that bs.
@Ami, that might be the problem when the numbers are so low you can count them on one hand. Are they friends on Associate?
your sarcasm meter is broken, Bhaven...
Sure, his factories are absolutely hypocritical compared with his message.
However, the difference between Clinton and Trump on this issue is nationalism vs. globalism.
He's painting Clinton as a globalist
(which she is)
Patriotism bordering on nationalism is Trump's brand. That brand has a lot of support, especially when globalism scares people.
I'm confused with 400 yr start in terms of people's ancestors who weren't even in this country back then. What about those whites who settled into areas with barely any blacks to oppress (as it was back when my family came in 1905 to nyc)
Great migration hadn't happened yet.
Come on Skal you're sounding like a Trump surrogate. North Korea is Nationalist country, globalist only scare the poorly educated. So trump's campaign of fear is appealing. Don't be Drew they still benefited from from white privilege1905; they had
a better opportunity than my ancestors just by the pigmentation in their skin. In the1600's slavery was in America.
So what do you want? If you had a genie to grant you 3 laws, what would they be?
Addison, IL, USA
Yes Skal it might be this buffoon call trump isn't a joking matter. He talks about using nuclear weapons like they are fireworks used during the fourth.
Globalism scares people who've watched jobs similar to theirs shipped overseas, regardless of education level. After the recent recession, that's a rational concern.
I'm not joking. Nationalism is a huge part of his appeal.
By narrowly focusing on race, you are missing that completely.
The alt right believe in nationalism. They watch trump shipped jobs overseas, is he bring those jobs back. Race wasn't in any of the examples I gave you about trump.
Bhaven, do you believe that businesses move jobs overseas because that is their first choice?
race has been the only thing you talked about for most of the thread...
alt right is the CTR™ approved buzzword for the moment.
Clinton supported NAFTA and helped craft TPP. no one expects her to keep her primary campaign promise on it.
didn't bmoron agree the human race started in Africa?
Seems to me, blacks would have about a 50,000 year head start as a minimum.
how about you, non native American blood, ass-holes get the fùck out. After all, you murdered & stole this country.
that would include you buffalo soldier mffer's too
Africans in Africa hate American blacks.
You mean U.S. Blacks. Because American Blacks are from North, and South America. I love the arrogant of this country to think they are the only Americans on this Continent of Americas.
But white "privilege" is certainly real...I can tell you that when I'm in a traffic stop, there is no underlying suspicion surrounding me. I don't pretend that would be true if I were black.
However, it's also an insidious thing, because I also receive different treatment from cops because I'm a woman. Also because I'm dressed well and in a nice car. So there's that, but if I were black do you think I might be suspicious for the very
reason that I'm dressed well and driving a nice car?
CD1, your parents success has to do both with their efforts and no need to overcome racism.
I have two advanced degrees, neither of which I got by relying on anyone but myself. That proves
absolutely nothing about racism. Your parents success and yours also prove absolutely nothing about racism.
Everyone is a little bit racist. The vast majority would never be racist in a way that affects someone who looks different in a negative way. So we look at the pool of people who would be.
To affect someone's life negatively via racism it helps to be in a position of power. Who controls the majority of businesses, governments, and resources in this country. Correct, white people.
So in the pool of 20 racists based on population you'll have 10 whites, 4 Latinos, 3 blacks, and 3 of everyone else. Probability alone dictates there being more white racists.
Now consider the likelihood that each person is a business owner, police officer, politician, etc. Anyone who has power you influence the quality of life systematically.
A black male is more likely to be confronted with racism than a white male, period.
move to the suburbs stay out of the Cities until the adult African American male has control of his children
if I was on the streets surrounded by blacks one black man with much more power to unite the other black men around to kick my ass than anyone would had the situation been reversed racially
blacks have the power to hurt whites because they're united by anger we've all seen the thousands of videos
so smart people stay out of their neighborhoods, they don't do business in the neighborhood either. Neighborhoods fail schools fail . what should the average person do? Go there anyhow and do business? Into the danger zone?
it is the job of the adult African American male and they can fix it overnight
so what is stopping African Americans from fixing it themselves? or is it my responsibility because of the color of my skin?
Sure Pink, most black men would say they have to do better as a group but that has nothing to do with the likelihood of encountering racism
I know a middle aged white in middle management whose life was made a living Hell by a black woman one level above him in the same office. She was a wealthy, suburban living, racist, black woman.
But for every one of her there are 3 white persons behaving in the same manner
any black man can walk down the streets of Strongsville safely day or night - vice a versa no way so who is winning?
Every black male I know that's my age, is married, takes care of their child, owns a home, and has a good job. The Generation X black male HAS taken responsibility and HAS done better than the baby boomers. This despite below average education,
poor local work opportunities, and neighborhood violence spurred by drug prohibition.
Based on the stats, I'd say everyone is pretty safe in Strongsville
why the below-average education? and why aren't my neighborhood's plagued with violence spurred by drug prohibition?
why the poor local work opportunities? you know why? Because of the violence spurred by drug prohibition and of course adult African American males not keeping tabs on their teenagers
yes Strongsville is very safe and I rarely see cops I , like dr. evil drive an expensive car but I don't dress well
what car do you drive?
BMW, but not a 3 nor 4 nor 5 nor 7 ... the one that looks like a Mustang
but this race #### is getting worse and I don't think the average white man to fix it and it's to the detriment of to the black man so the black man had better fix it is what I'm saying
few extra words but I made my point .
I mean I can protest police brutality but that isn't going to do ####
do I need to go to the hood and patronize their stores? We've all seen the YouTube videos so that's out of the question
my god daughter is black and when I visit her I am heavily armed and ready even though I can't legally touch firearms .
mid-twenties, three children not a single one of the men around
I'm guessing an M3??
no it's a 6 series don't see them too often because they blend in real nice, I like that. at my age I don't like anybody to know I'm on my third second childhood
That is a nice car, congrats
It appears you're running a narrative in your head you won't let go of.
@ about 1 year ago
Cerritos, CA, USA
I recently bought a Chevy Impala dirt cheap as a project car for the fun of it. I am in the signage industry so I have access to vinyl wraps and installation. I'm trying to figure what direction I want to go
thank you yeah it's been nice I drag my wife up every weekend with it , it's kind of brought us together . she fricking smokes in it so do I but not cigarettes
they have wraps now that are 3 different colors depending on the angle
or maybe a matte metallic
man I used to be a project guy but no more . just one day , couldn't do it anymore
I'm still laying in bed watching YouTube maybe going to play a little Call of Duty
oh I don't have time to be too serious about it, just a little bit of fun
that's good :-)
I bought a project race car for my son and I he lost interest immediately and I said good boy
check this out
and this, the best explanation of a differential my wife even understands them now
how much does the Duke engine cost? I have to question why the concept hasn't been seen in any major production car, it suggests it might have some problems
I don't know I just recently saw that and I have been to their website I love that valve system!
it's cool, just want to see it in the real world
I'm more interested in a fleshlight that doesn't look like a fleshlight maybe like replacement wheelbarrow handle covers or something
once you get the thing home, open it up and you're like ,I don't have a horse ... or maybe it's just me
My husband told me I have no appreciation of what I have under the hood and he's quite right. mitt car goes real fast, right now and that's all I care about. Cars, computers, and generally mechanical gadgets are the same in my eyes: I just need
them to work as intended. That's all, it's quite simple.
my car not mitt car, ha.
Anyway I just like to drive fast...but only on the highway. Residential areas and I'm 5mph under posted. I don't want to squish dogs or children.
Don't fúcking hold me up on the highway though.
I'm 5 mph over on local, 25 is so freaking slow
So is the NC shooting evidence of lack of racism?
Stillwater, MN 55082, USA
a lack of racism?
lack of racism only happens in predominantly white communities
Cleveland, OH 44130, USA
Anyone who thinks racism is dead has their head in the sand. I dont think racism will ever die.
Of course not, that's like saying one day there will be no more liars or no more murders
Black Lives matter... So steal some TVs at Walmart.
quick somebody call an adult white male!
nothing has changed, it's gotten worse.
to many the only way to fix this is to punish the hell out of the Caucasian
do white liberals share the same responsibilities? I know it wasn't my fault yet I'm in grave danger in black neighborhoods because of it
Am I the only one who actually addressed the OP?
Yeah sorry I had some misinformation...heard initially that the cop that shot the dude in NC is black.
my damn hard drive is full
what's to add, plc?
some people apparently believe you're dead instantly if you're shot.
Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA
news reports say the cop WAS African American, evil
doc must be watching MSNBC
@op That #### angers me so much. i am windering why they are not performing CPR or something.
@ about 1 year ago
Troy, MI, USA
if it makes you feel any better if they do it to white people too hand behind your back Sir!
do you have a weapon sir? Are these handcuffs too tight? okay maybe not the exact same thing
i am just saying in general race has nothing to do with it brother. if you have neutralized the threat, why aren't they doing the human thing to do and try to preserve life?
(See the first comment in the thread)
Thinker! Good to see you back my friend
As a counterpoint, a person who is shot can still shoot back/attack in some cases.
Elmhurst, IL, USA
I think it is more important to identify the response time of the ambulance and quality of care given.
that's true, even after thwy are hand cuffed they still don't. And it is always good to hear from you
then that needs to be a part of their training. If they have been given the authority to take life then they need to be able to give it back......
I would be curious to know if basic medical care is ever given after the suspect has been handcuffed
they could try to stop the bleeding anything to show some humanity
Maybe police officers should be trained as paramedics.
Taking the Hippocratic oath wouldn't be a bad idea...to the extent that sort of thing makes any difference whatsoever.
Regarding my confusion above, let me just say in my defense that it's getting fúcking hard to keep facts in all these shootings straight. Assuming it isn't Alzheimer's, that's just crazy.
Police officers already take an oath. Maybe your confusion is a result of your hatred for law enforcement. You want the police to be wrong. No matter what. To hell with reason. That's why you're a liberal.
time for bmoron and Adam to celebrate,,, blm,,, lol 2 more dead pigs in Palm Springs
Sorry dumbazz I haven't eaten pork since 81, regardless where they were killed.
Southwest Carrollton, Carrollton, TX
The HIPPOCRATIC oath, plc. Do officers take that one?
Why do you think I hate cops??? Sure I tend to be suspicious of the Executive branch overall, but I don't single out cops.
I don't think doubting the Executive is a liberal hallmark is it?
PLC, the blue code of silence is the only oath polices truly follows. If the police did like they request citizens to do. SNITCH on the CRIMINAL elements in their ranks.
Nice 4 part series
nobody said "eat pork", dumbass
come on, admit it, you're celebrating dead cops. Be a man, and own up.
Sorry you demented fu¢k. I'll leave that for your racist, deplorable, trump supporting azz. like I said I haven't eaten a dead pig since 81'.
You eat living pigs?
That's like some reverse Hannibal shît
I don't eat pork or swine whatever fits your fancy.
Are you Muslim, or just made the choice to not eat pork?
Yes and No. I started studying Islam in 81, but I haven't practiced since 2000.
so before 81, you supported killing cops, pigs in your vernacular, and eating them.
I see you have absolutely no use for police officers, pigs in your vernacular.
you sound like an escaped mental patient with a new toy. Wait a minute, he is a trump supporter.
Ellis County, TX
He just believes he's being clever.
and engaging with someone on his level.
at least I haven't sunk to your level, Adam.
an illegal trying to dictate to legal citizens, hates Police (you're celebrating aren't you), loves federal handouts,
Yes, hurl unrelated insults: classic path for those with nothing else.
that's funny doc. you see it when someone else does it but not when you do it.
Doc, is a liberal, she can't be wrong.
see how she defends her liberal kin, when they hurl insults?
I saw that!
I don't do that, pns.
Yes you do.