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Important stuff in the science world of late. 1. Fuel cells that run on glucose. 2. use of light as artificial nervous system. 3. The importance of timing in protein generation and release to the ER.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

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On item 3: http://m.phys.org/news/2016-08-scientists-decades-old-proteins-cells.html

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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on the first: these fuel cells are about the size of a quarter. Initial purpose is to run implanted medical devices...but you can see that this is also useful cyborg tech.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Item 2 is somewhat related. Little swimming robots that swim in a bath of glucose (!) and salt (for electrical signal transmission) are remotely controlled to swim by light triggering contraction of artificially grown heart cells.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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You can see the path converging on artificial life. internalize the glucose and salt solution (just like us!) and the robot could be walking instead of swimming. The

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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glucose fuel cell tech is bound to develop quickly both in terms of efficiency and miniaturization. And with DNA based memory storage starting to come on line, the path is clearer. Blade Runner, anyone?

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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regarding item 3, this is a real breakthrough in understanding the fundamental causes of a lot of really awful human diseases. Cancer is only one of them. this will lead to new and far more effective treatments, some first generation treatments too

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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for stuff like Alzheimer's. imo, anyway. Schaden freude should have an actual valid opinion on this.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Honestly I don't understand why everyone doesn't want to be a scientist. Why wouldn't you want to understand how and why stuff works and maybe even use that knowledge to make more stuff that works?

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I'm confused, are you saying Obama DID NOT form ISIS??

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Yeah sorry I know this supposed to be all about politics. SCIENCE 2016!!!

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Hey I'm all for science! My nephew is 17 and graduating high school a year early with a certification from Cambridge. He plans to go into bio engineering; I look forward to my discussions with him in the future

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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My neice was headed down a business path after high school. She took one genetics related class just because she thought it would be interesting. Now she is doing post doc research at Stanford.

jc @ over 1 year ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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proud Uncles

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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My discussions with her don't include her work. It would be like trying to have a casual conversation about quantum physics while one of us was speaking mandarin.

jc @ over 1 year ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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just kind of nod your head and mumble "interesting" once in a while? Lol

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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congrats to all, you uncles, but especially the young adults. .

H2O @ over 1 year ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

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Evil, if I read correctly all 3 where separate studies, but they end up linked to each other for further discovery, tech advancement, and life improvements. .

H2O @ over 1 year ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

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pretty interesting stuff, but bio isn't really my bag, would much rather discuss "quantum physics". . ;-) .

H2O @ over 1 year ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

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keep it coming, Doc! remember, science is a part of politics.

UndrWater @ over 1 year ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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h2o, those are three completely separate findings that all have occurred of late. That is their only relationship as far as that goes. So, enjoy a good Eigenfunction, do you?

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Undr, one of the challenges of my job is keeping up with changes in the law while also keeping up with advancements in a number of technical areas. That challenge is what keeps me going!

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I gotta change the oil in my car and let the dog out and something else... make sure I have weed

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

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degenerative eigenvalues are actually a former of mathematical entertainment. .

H2O @ over 1 year ago

National Harbor, Fort Washington, MD 20745

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^true

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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Hey here comes another one. China claims to have successfully implemented a quantum satellite. If true that's incredibly huge for communications.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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but again, the whole cyborg idea is really furthered by these seemingly disparate technologies. They can all come together and play a part. quantum pairing and subsequent splitting of photons would allow communications in "real" time.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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It would allow us to share thoughts almost simultaneously. remember the synthetic nervous system directed by light I mentioned above? Oh yeah.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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sounds like a good way to ruin everyone's life lol

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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unfortunately, quantum physics, mathematical will probably be used by militaries long before use for mankind advancement is realized. . sucks, but that's the world nature of things. .

H2O @ over 1 year ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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don't be surprised if the u.s. hasn't already been there, done that. remember there is that reusable space vehicle that's been up and back a few times, mission unknown. . examples of u.s. secrets kept for long periods; sr-71, stealth tech,

H2O @ over 1 year ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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Re: #3. I'm always skeptical when some of these new cancer-fighting breakthroughs are proposed. Most are either overhyped and the press releases don't quite match the study data. I'll get more excited when this type of

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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stuff reaches the T2 stage(or even T1 stage with positive results).

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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"one of the challenges of my job is keeping up with changes in the law while also keeping up with advancements in a number of technical areas." Same, s/law/medicine. Science is awesome!

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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Looking back though, it's amazing how much I've forgotten about physical chemistry. Grad school would've been fascinating. Oh well, life happens.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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awesome science like chemical warfare? everything has a balance

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Elmhurst, IL, USA

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but I am grateful for those of you who approach science with a view helping others, thank you

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Elmhurst, IL, USA

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I don't believe scientists, engineers, etc start out working on projects/research with the intent to harm humanity, but somewhere in the stages some political/military power hungry government takes over the funding and direction. .

H2O @ over 1 year ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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Oh I 100% believe that some do

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Addison, IL, USA

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Yeah Obamacare

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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but original intent does not always remain uniform from innovator to innovator

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Addison, IL, USA

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The evil use of a particular invention isn't always apparent to the inventor. Sometimes the"alternate" use isn't apparent to anyone...later innovations give rise to new uses.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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What about the medical research on hypothermia and the affects of extremely high altitude on the human body... Hmm where'd that come from?

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Schaden, I hear you. It's not like they've now clearly understood what chemical will fix the problem or how to deliver it at the right time and place. It's just one of those forehead smacking moments where you go, of course, that's right!

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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It makes sense that a lot of issues would arise from "overcooking" the protein in the synthetic oven, as it were.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I believe some scientists do start out with the intent to harm humanity, I mean they are human too right, and some humans aren't so good.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Unit 731... Weren't there scientists in there?

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Anyway I don't think scientists or any other profession is some special breed of consistently altruistic human being that somehow does no wrong or can't be evil. Too many examples of otherwise

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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yep

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Addison, IL, USA

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evil is as evil does

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Addison, IL, USA

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I used to do research for a ginormous company that makes nuclear weapons. I expressed gratitude that I was merely working on adhesives for construction...my manager said, 20% of everyone's salary here is paid by DoD funding. What makes you think

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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that adhesive technology won't end up in a missile? I was floored. It was my first real job. It was very prestigious, real ivory tower stuff. I would have been nuts to not take that job.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly how some of that stuff happens. In the case of e.g. the Manhattan Project, those guys felt they had to get there FIRST. And you can't deny they had justification. Could have been NY and LA instead of

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Hiroshima and Nagasaki, right? Yet: they unleashed one of the single most "evil" inventions ever on the whole world. Nothing is black and white. Scientists are after some result in a flask or under a microscope and follow it like a hound

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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on a rabbit. And yes, sometimes we imagine our little research thing couldn't possibly enable evil uses.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I guess when you're doing medical experimentation on what you think are subhumans for the benefit of what you think are more advanced humans....

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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See, but here no one is making a subhuman. They make a fuel cell. They figure out how to control devices using light. Remember I just pulled these things together here. I read about them in completely different places. These are separate

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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pieces of a puzzle with a thousand parts. They don't know they are a part necessarily or perhaps just not yet.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I was just replying to the later section of the thread and this sorta weird idea that scientists are some kinda secular high priests incapable of knowingly doing wrong.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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And the fuel cell development is for implanted medical devices for example. A great idea since the battery powering the device will have an endless supply of energy inside the body.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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This cliche that anything bad that comes out of a scientist's work is because their research (wholly innocent in nature) was used for nefarious means by *others*

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Think about the engineer who designed the iron maiden; a device that impaled the victim in locations that would guarantee they die as slow of a death as possible. I bet he was the life of the party!

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Yeah how many iterations did he go through - - - "dammit, this one worked too quickly again... Back to the drawing board'

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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must have been a tortuous process

AMI @ over 1 year ago

405 Saint Charles Road, Villa Park, IL 60181

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Hey there are definitely those who go there. Think human medical experiments in the Nazi era, such as repeatedly re-breaking a man's leg in the same place to see if it eventually failed to heal.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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there are sick twisted individuals in all walks of life. But honestly, as a group scientists are just scientists, and we love it and most of the world somehow just doesn't get that.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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It's fine if people think it's nerdy and boring. But when people start attributing political motivations to scientific endeavors, by and large I am extremely skeptical.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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^^^^ exactly . never heard of scientist, engineer, MD, mathematician, who attended school for the purpose of inflicting pain of humanity .

H2O @ over 1 year ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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the sick ones never attend school, they're self taught

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Doc, that's why I mentioned the hypothermia and altitude research, a lot of it that's *still cited* is Nazi stuff. And then there's the Japanese Mengele-types in Unit 731.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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Many of these Nazi & Jap scientists, had their histories whitewashed for use by allies. But remember, these scientists when they were doing their research, they didn't consider their subjects "part of humanity"

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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USA took this microbiologist in. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShirĊ_Ishii

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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And weren't the Nazi docs taught scientific racism, eugenics type stuff (a lot of it pioneered in America on Long Island) during some of their own schooling? So that was part of the education as well!

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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As much as today's progressives really really don't wanna admit it, that stuff was very much part progressive era. And then you had a cousin of Darwin latching onto it as well, made it even more legit.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=30399

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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speaking of New York

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Didn't know they did the Human Zoo thing here, pretty screwed up.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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They didn't do it because he had dark skin. They did it because they saw him as less human.

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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okay, who here would be okay with him dating their daughter?

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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Drew?

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Countryside, IL 60525, USA

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Huh what

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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would you like to date mr. Pink's daughter

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Woodridge, IL, USA

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Nope

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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Hey this isn't a hookup forum!

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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..is it???

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Stillwater, MN 55082, USA

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we're just trying to find mr. Pink's daughter a man

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Wood Dale, IL, USA

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She's got binders full of men

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

Cleveland, OH, USA

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Like father like daughter

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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@drew - I don't think today's progressives think much about the history you mentioned...

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

Center City East, Philadelphia, PA

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You're right they don't. I think it's an important part of history though...should at least be acknowledged. There have been a few books though at least.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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important part of history- absolutely. but not really related to current progressive ideology.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

Center City East, Philadelphia, PA

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Not saying it is, just think the whole 'my side was always right, responsible for all the good in the world, arc of history' kinda mythology is pretty dumb.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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I also think science historians should acknowledge it more as well. As a warning of dark paths that can be taken under the guise of scientific and academic legitimacy

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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That type of mythology isn't limited to progressives...

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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And sure, science and medicine have had some dark times that are important to remember and learn from. but that's the key point - we learned from it

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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I dunno have we? Who knows what we'll uncover

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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Or how tomorrow we'll view what we've been doing today. Ya just don't know.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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humans never learn, we just get more efficient at doing the same dumb things

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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There's no magical self-correction for better ethics in medicine or science, if anything I think there's pressure to go the other way. I think this is especially true with medicine.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Midtown East, New York, NY

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good point dr. Drew

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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the only unethical behavior I saw in the lab was stuff like stealing credit for others' work and stupid crap like that. No one had evil intent per se; the intent was to make money. But we all know there are no pure intentions there.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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the worst mass unethical behavior I ever saw was proctoring an exam for a pre-med chemistry class (organic chem for docs not jocks). I swear they looked more at each other's papers than their own.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Yes, Drew - have learned from it. 45 CFR 46 Humans subjects protection is taken seriously.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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Changes started with the Belmont report. I understand the skepticism, but there's no question that human subjects protections for research have significantly improved by looking at past mistakes.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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"if anything I think there's pressure to go the other way. I think this is especially true with medicine." Why do you feel this way?

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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@Evil - that type of cheating always pissed me off.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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Because it's easy enough to think of a multitude of unethical human experiments that'd answer unknown questions. And who really knows what's happening illegally, extralegally or worldwide.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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With other disciplines you're many degrees further separated from humanity. That's why I think medicine is particularly prone to that kinda pressure.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Easy to think of unethical experiments is one thing. Actually doing them is another.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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It's not like you can find two very average people, disappear them, and run a cryopreservation experiment on them.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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Re extralegal: lay off the bond movies...

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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Lay off the bond movies - come on man, we've done plenty of that stuff. Not to mention you do it outside this country...

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Didn't we have protocols in place already with Tuskegee and the Guatemala experiments?

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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And what about say I dunno North Korea...

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Guarantee some #### has yet to be declassified...

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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No, we didn't have protocols in place. That's what lead to the Belmont report I just mentioned.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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I'm guessing we've already had some kinda modern version of Operation Paperclip from places we've engaged militarily with foreign scientists who've defected or we've gotten a hold of.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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science directed by dictators isn't reflective of science in general...

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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it seems to me that our friend in "undefined" (explain that one!) is doing some purposeful misdirection here...he's likely involved in something sinister...grafting a chicken to a monkey or some sick #### like that

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Probably.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Some sick Island of Dr Moreau kinda stuff

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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https://youtu.be/skXGnzQVTDE

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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you're onto me. and Bitcoin is the perfect under the table payment.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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undefined = home of this year's Ryder cup.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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well la de da!

AMI @ over 1 year ago

Addison, IL, USA

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la di fricken da

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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I miss biology. Have to keep the corporate job though; have my wife and children to take care of.

sabaku no ai @ about 1 year ago

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you only have a bachelor's degree anyway, ai. you didn't really get into it in any depth.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Or is it an associates degree? With what, two semesters of freshman bio plus lab?

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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I'm thinking he has an Associates degree in dog walking if memory serves me right. .

H2O @ about 1 year ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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ah, that's it, thanks h2o.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Let's not jump to assumptions here. Doc, simply ask him something anyone who has taken organic should know, but cannot easily solve via Google

AMi @ about 1 year ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I doubt he took any organic chemistry, but let's mix basic organic chem and thermodynamics a bit. Let's see if you guys can answer this via Google: what chemical groups on a diene will drive the Diels-Alder reaction toward completion?

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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hey if you're making pixie dust count me in

Mr. Pink @ about 1 year ago

Medina, OH 44256, USA

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Nah, meth.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Electron withdrawing group on the non-diene. Oblig: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/58/e7/11/58e7113ee69257626e25ba64d454285c.jpg

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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So that'd be the donating group on the diene, right?

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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Right, but to specifically list an example our two was the part I thought you probably couldn't fake just by Google searching.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Right, but the question was phrased for a more general answer :)

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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What chemical groups. I didn't ask what type...not a general question. Also not a question for you! I should have specified you should not answer in the first place.

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

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Hehe :P

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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Not that important but I'm lichen this story here. http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/07/how-a-guy-from-a-montana-trailer-park-upturned-150-years-of-biology/491702/

The Drew @ about 1 year ago

Midtown, New York, NY

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