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Adam, rejoices & dances in the street . http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/23/tim-kaine-addresses-crowd-in-spanish-promises-amnesty-plan-in-the-first-100-days-in-office/ . Good night, "Crooked Hillary" .

H2O @ 9 months ago

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the party of donald trump ladies and gentlemen.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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Lindsay Graham likes to pretend like donald trump doesnt represent the republican party, he represents it like no other politician does.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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what's wrong Adam, facts hurt? . that's your party, willing to grant criminals mass pardons, right to vote (as long as it's Democrat) .

H2O @ 9 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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your party, rewards criminal behavior . of course that makes you happy .

H2O @ 9 months ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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what facts?

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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hey racer (if youre here) who are you voting for?

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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I would put my money on Trump

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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he hasnt said, if he does it will be quietly, i wanted to also ask him about newt's words on taking feelings of his voters over facts and statistics.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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We all know racer doesn't do feelings

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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he has an intellectual side.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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while you were gone plc called him far left wing.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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because he though police officers should... well i actually dont know what racer said to deserve that, he probably asked for accountability.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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police officers should what?

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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ah, sorry, yeah accountability would be good

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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you should watch fox news some time, i was watching it this morning, and they may have been saying it for a while but fox and friends dedicated the morning to "the war on cops"

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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you don't get ratings by promoting peace

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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or elect your candidates, they had paul manafort, trumps campaign manager on to talk about trumps response to the police officers getting shot in san diego.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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Gary Johnson 2016

Racer X @ 9 months ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

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I saw the Newt interview. He lost all of my respect with that "feeling" vs fact bullshït.

Racer X @ 9 months ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

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no...I won't vote for Trump

Racer X @ 9 months ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

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(not that my Libertarian vote matters in a state as red as Gawgia)

Racer X @ 9 months ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

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I actually think I like the Libertarian VP candidate Bill Weld more than Gary Johnson.

Racer X @ 9 months ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

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I have been impressed with Weld

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Same here.

Tjaden Froyda @ 9 months ago

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I really hope Johnson can get to the stage for the debates

Tjaden Froyda @ 9 months ago

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https://youtu.be/rqqefZhiQuM

Racer X @ 9 months ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

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notice that 25% of the votes were thumbs down? those are libertarians that can't get out of their own way

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I agree. unwillingness to compromise even within their own party

Racer X @ 9 months ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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I have always said libertarians are just republicans that dont like jesus. though absent a liberal candidate to vote for i will perhaps vote for gary johnson in west virginia as a show of support for a third option.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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i could actually imagine donald trumps support for the libertarian to share the stage over the objection of the party, it would create a strange sensation in the logic centers of my brain.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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I've been gone quite a while, but never in a million years would I have put money on racer voting Trump.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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#FeelTheJohnson

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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These guys, while not good representatives of libertarianism on many issues, WILL at least ATTEMPT to move us towards a smaller, less oppressive federal govt.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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Neither slick Hilly nor Trump will do that.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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Lol very true AH, I was being very creative in my prediction of Racer

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Keep voting for the lesser of two evils, and you will continue to get evil candidates. As 3rd party votes increase from election cycle to cycle, something has to give. Either parties shift platforms or a 3rd party candidate actually has a chance.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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first step is to get Johnson in the debates

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Agreed. He is such a terrible speaker and gives such incomplete answers though... I fear the general uninformed public will form their opinions of all libertarians (as if he is one) based on his performance

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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I could have answered all of those questions last night better than him. There were a couple points where I wanted to bang my head on the coffee table.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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yes, he's not a great orator, Weld is his polar opposite in that regard

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I would view them as co-Presidents

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Weld won't be there on a real debate stage. Trump and Hillary will destroy him I'm afraid.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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I have the same concern, he will need to be sufficiently prepped

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Modern elections are popularity contests. A huge bachelor show where the country is looking for the sexiest candidate. Fortunately for Johnson, there aren't any of those this election cycle.

Taco Bowl @ 9 months ago

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co presidents... That's what the host on my favorite podcast calls them. Lol.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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it clearly fits

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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Definitely

AMI @ 9 months ago

Addison, IL, USA

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Why the hell isn't Weld at the top of the ticket?

Racer X @ 9 months ago

Perimeter Center, Sandy Springs, GA

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name recognition

AMI @ 9 months ago

Bloomingdale, IL, USA

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yep

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ 07302

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Isn't Weld pro gun control?

Taco Bowl @ 9 months ago

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"Restricting Americans’ gun rights doesn’t make us safer, and threatens our constitutional freedoms. I was pleased by and support the Supreme Court’s decision in the District of Columbia vs. Heller

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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a decision that embraced the notion that our Second Amendment rights are individual rights, not to be abridged by the government."

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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"I am a lifelong hunter and gun owner. In 1993, however, as Governor of Massachusetts, I went along with some modest restrictions on certain types of firearms. I was deeply concerned about gun violence, and frankly, the

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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people I represented were demanding action. Sometimes, governing involves tough choices, and I had to make more than a few."

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/melania-trump-immigration-donald-226648

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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looks like melania trump may have been an illegal immigrant.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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undocumented model you meant

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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and its not too far fetched that racer would identify with trump more. theyre both crass businessmen who over sexualize women, both atheists,

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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and both have an appreciation for the finest eastern european whores money can buy.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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How do you surmise that he is an atheist?

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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because he tells us every day on votermap!

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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Trump

AMI @ 9 months ago

Addison, IL, USA

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i knew that, i just wanted to throw you off.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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i think a lot of things trump says are things he says because he thinks other people want to hear them like "i think there should be a punishment for abortion."

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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when trump talks about christianity it appears forced.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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its never organic, with every other republican candidate sure they take it over the edge but they wear their christianity on their sleeves.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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when trump spoke at liberty university he quoted a bible verse that had the word liberty in it, it wasnt deep, its what he thought he should do.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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i read an article about trumps parents went to the "power of positive thinking" authors church and it was a lot of prosperity gospel stuff and maybe thats why he seems autistic and self centered all the time.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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sure, he's no religious man, that's for sure

AMI @ 9 months ago

Naperville, IL, USA

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but i dont think trump would give any god credit for anything he has ever done.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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Trump has the best god, it's absolutely fantastic, you're going to love it

AMI @ 9 months ago

Naperville, IL, USA

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https://youtu.be/tYcwPlYD_F4 Apparently Weld IS a gun control advocate. He's hedging himself now because the image he is trying to present.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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He has supported a ban on some semi automatics and differentiates between those with a hunting purpose and those without? F**k you Bill Weld and the horse you rode in on.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Nothing drives me crazier than politicians talking as if the right to keep and bear arms is limited to hunting. Andrew Cuomo style bullsh!t

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Reversing stance, Mass. governor urges gun control Sept. 29, 1993 http://www.upi.com/Archives/1993/09/29/Reversing-stance-Mass-governor-urges-gun-control/8685749275200/

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Weld is not to be trusted

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Matters little for my vote though. These two have no chance of winning. My vote still goes to them to bolster third party numbers.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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and this is why libertarians cant have anything nice.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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a lot of libertarians won't even participate in the process because things are so far away from where they want to be, they view it as pointless.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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They'd rather sit saying and debate theory than actually try to effect change even in small ways.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Nope. Take what you can get. Baby steps still count.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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wait for perfection and you'll wait forever

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Exactly.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Libertarians should not let this affect their voting choice. Besides slick Hilly is a Feinstein style gun grabber, and Trump has also supported control in the past and had now done a 180.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Weld still pisses me off though.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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there are a lot of people who think the best thing for the entire world is the complete elimination of firearms, theyre not fascists they just think it would be best for everyone.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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think like a proven UK or australian lack of want for those arms. and some politicians wish we could do it here. the stats prove its usefulness, but the question is it right?

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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i dont think it is, but i dont really know if im right.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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An impossibility for certain. What people actually mean when they say that is they wish to restrict firearms too the ruling class. History has shown us why this is a bad idea.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Anytime who believes in that fairy tale is so incredibly naive there are no words to express it.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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I think the lack of want over there come after much propaganda, and may reflect the majority. There is still a minority that gets it. And after all republics like ours are supposed to be structured to protect the rights of the minorities

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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a UK or Australian style confiscation will not likely go down here in the USA the same way it worked over there

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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no, the thing is people do what theyre told to do really, when interracial marriage bans were repealed people got over it, now that gay marriage is essentially legal the attitude will shift exponentially.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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maybe there is a catalyst that is used by politicians in the form of mass shootings but the changes in laws are mostly overlooked as the way things are and people really dont care, there is no misinformation campaign.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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and in those countries the statistics prove lower crime and murder rates.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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But those are expansion of rights, not restrictions. I know many people here that take the phase Molon Labe very very seriously. Myself included.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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i know but thats bumper sticker material, not real world application of what is right and wrong.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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Statistics are funny things. But of course if you can effectively remove enough firearms from people hands, gun crime will drop. Other violent crime often increases and leaves the weakest less able to defend themselves.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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It's not quite the utopia that our media makes it out to be over there.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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what other violent crime will increase?

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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It's never been about statistics for me though. It's about unalienable natural rights. It's about our right to defend ourselves and others from anyone who would infringe on those rights

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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and you dont need to overstate the case, nobody said it was a utopia.

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fair enough

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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and im of the camp that believes it is a right given to us by the constitution so i dont really see a need to get rid of it for those reasons. but would it help us protect ourselves? no of course not.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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if someone wants your gun they will take it from you, and most likely shoot you with it. you are just as likely to defend yourself with a kitchen knife.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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the gun does not protect the freedom of speech, it just doesnt have that power.

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Funny registered story btw. A buddy of mine was in Toronto last week. A shooting happened right across the street. I went to google it and found multiple shootings from just that day.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Common place in that city apparently. With strict gun control thought the country.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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it is something that makes the weaker feel stronger, and that is where the most potential for abuse lies.

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*throughout

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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gun control doesnt usually exist in cities where there isnt already a high level of gun control, the control comes second, the guns always come first.

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It can be a double edged sword no doubt, buy you need go no further than YouTube to find extraordinary cases where good guys do win. It is by no means a guarantee of anything, but it is each individual's choice. Not govt.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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DC wasnt a shining example of friendship and magic before gun control, but maybe it would have been worse without it : )

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youtube can show you more good guys winning without guns than with.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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but, again, laws requiring backround checks dont do much to prevent shootings, adam lanza used guns legally purchased by his mom.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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eric harris had a friend but their guns.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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more laws tend to mess more things up than not, drug testing welfare recipients not only punishes minor users, fraudsters already practice deception, one more law isnt that easy. and it enshrines welfare anyway.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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requiring more proof of identification without evidence of fraudulent voting only discourages legitimate people from voting, real voter fraud doesnt really happen in person.

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A lot of ifs that don't really matter to me. DC might have been better. There may be more good guy gun examples of more people carried guns too. Nothing of substance in these points.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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chris kyle had a gun, it didnt help him, and he was supposed to be good with it.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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No one is selling it as a magic tool. If someone turns and sucker punches you, there is little you can do to avoid the black eye.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

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That isn't really making any point other than to say there are certain situations where it won't help. There are others where it definitely can.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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on voting, requiring more proof is not what we are taking. It's any proof. And it does happen. There are clearly documented cases. Does it happen in enough volume to impact outcomes, most probably not.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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But that's not the point, at least for me.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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And for the record the Constitution does not grant rights to the people. It was the position of Madison and other Federalists that Bill of Rights was unnecessary because the people already held those rights and nothing in the Constitution granted

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

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the federal government authority restrict them. They argued that creating a Bill of Rights might lead to that enumeration of Rights being interpreted as definitive down the road. The Bill of Rights only came about because Anti-Federalists like

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Patrick Henry did not trust the Federalists. The ninth and tenth amendments were included by Madison to ensure that the Bill of Rights was not interpreted as an all-inclusive list of Rights.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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it didnt help philando castile

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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maybe but this pie in the sky dream that because you have a few AR-15's you bought from walmart are going to protect you from a tyrannical government arent really based in reality.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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or that obama is the one that is that tyrannical government just makes the whole molon labe crowd look like a cartoon that wouldnt recognize real tyranny if it showed up at their front door anyway.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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Maybe if we had AK47s like the bunch of simple Arabs that have been confounding our military in the middle East for how long, and the soviets for a decade before them.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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its not the AK's confounding us, its the lack of understanding that you can never own a country that doesnt want to be owned.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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You over simplify this because of your beliefs btw. People have much more power than you think when they turn against govt, with or without guns.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Instead of a country, I'd actually say that you can never own a people that does not want to be owned.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Right? How's it different?

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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but when your enemy occupies the same country as you, you can see that the indians and the confederates didnt really stand a chance against a more capable force.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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We didn't occupy Iraq or Afghanistan? I'm fairly certain we did. Of course, as always, there is never a guarantee.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Give me liberty or give me death right? The latter is the part where it doesn't work out. Every people has the right to fight the fight. This is part of our foundation as a country.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Gotta go pick up my daughter now

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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iraq and afghanistan are exceptions where internal divisions were used to support an invading force where regional authority by natives were given power.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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groups like isis and boko haram and ansar al islam and the taliban and the like exist because of like minded beliefs among a group, not because of the weapons they carry.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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the weapons make make them more effective but its the belief that makes them powerful in their own right. the idea of a re-emerging caliphate is more powerful than any weapon.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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cheers, enjoyed the discussion, again its important to note that i am not pro gun control.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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The ak47 comment was sarcastic btw. I didn't mean that was the difference lol.

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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like minded beliefs, such as a belief in liberty held in common amongst a people or several peoples. Join or die brother. :)

Arlington Heights @ 9 months ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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im always trying to figure things out for myself, but i think i believe in a utopia that will exist billions of years into the future, too bad the sun will burn out before that happens.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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I like your optimism

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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no lie, when i was in the 5th grade and we were given an assignment to write on the worst threat to to the future, i wrote about people being the worst threat.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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my wife yells at me when my son is scared of monsters and i inform him that monsters arent real, humans are the only real monster.

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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killer whales do some pretty monstrous things to seals

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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I disagree with you, but we already know that

AMI @ 9 months ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/15928/do-sea-otters-rape-baby-seals-to-death

[412035] @ 9 months ago

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