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Showdown in the Peach State. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/23/us/business-to-play-key-role-as-georgia-weighs-bill-on-religion-and-gay-rights.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Conservative Christians vs Gay Rights supporters. With a ton of political power on the line.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

South Downtown, Atlanta, GA

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The state legislature has passed a 'Freedom of Religion' bill. It's currently sitting on the governor's desk waiting to be signed into law.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

South Downtown, Atlanta, GA

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A lot of businesses and organizations have made it clear that they'll reduce their presence in the state should he sign the bill. It's quite the Mexican standoff.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

South Downtown, Atlanta, GA

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My phone has been blowing up with automated calls from both sides of the fight asking for calls to the governor's office to support their position.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

South Downtown, Atlanta, GA

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finally christians in georgia wont be persecuted anymore.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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that's like the Nazis passing a bill prohibiting Jews from purchasing fire retardant clothing

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Norcross, GA 30071, USA

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I've never been a political activist...but I may look for a secular group to join to contribute to combating this rampant religious absurdity within my government.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Gwinnett Village, GA, USA

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Freedom From Religion...or something similar.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Gwinnett Village, GA, USA

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My current Representative is a former preacher. I actually used to attend his church a million years ago when the kids were younger and Mrs. Racer convinced me it would be good for them to go to church.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Norcross, GA 30071, USA

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he's slightly right of Inexorable

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Norcross, GA 30093, USA

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It's an election year... Georgia is fighting over Religious Freedom... Tennessee and North Carolina are fighting over transgender issues...

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Brookhaven, GA, USA

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I'm expecting a visit from Angelus and/or Inexorable any time now

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Brookhaven, GA, USA

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a whole lot of people fighting something that doesn't effect their lives at at, telling the people whose lives it is effecting that they are infringing on their freedoms...bass akwards

don Pappi @ almost 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

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affect affecting

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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It's Civil Rights all over again. A majority group furious over laws preventing their blatant discrimination of a minority group.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Sandy Springs, GA, USA

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yes pink the effect of my penis size is affecting your throat. got it.

don Pappi @ almost 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

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I don't understand how that doesn't make both of us homos

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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I took a look at the link, and I don't see any specifics of the bill mentioned. Is this a copy of the freedom of religious act?

CD1 @ almost 2 years ago

Shoreview, MN, USA

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and what difference can we really make

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20152016/161054.pdf

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Oh Georgia https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/24/ga-parents-offended-by-the-far-east-religion-of-yoga-get-namaste-banned-from-school/?hpid=hp_no-name_morning-mix-story-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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People say Deal will veto the legislation, most likely because all of the businesses that are threatening to pull out. Disney wont be the only film company to pull out of a billion dollar industry for Georgia.

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the question is what will the legislature do about it because that's where the problem came from.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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ive repeatedly said this is what they do, they keep testing these regressive laws they move through all the republican states one at a time, im sure mississippi will be next.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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I got in a discussing with a friend yesterday about this. his position was that the "Gay Mafia" was extorting the governor by threatening to have the entertainment industry boycott our state

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Brookhaven, GA, USA

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he said Georgia gays were willing to "cut off their nose to spite their face"

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Brookhaven, GA, USA

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gay terrorists?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Torrance, CA, USA

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In all seriousness though businesses and churches shouldn't be sued just because they won't service same sex couples. Because at the end of the day there are tons of businesses and churches that service same sex couples.

CD1 @ almost 2 years ago

White Bear Lake, MN, USA

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And by focusing on that one church or business that doesn't support same sex marriage and suing them doesn't do any good, it just adds more unnecessary drama.

CD1 @ almost 2 years ago

White Bear Lake, MN, USA

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an article by shaun king (aka joshua arroyo), http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-n-passes-anti-lgbt-bill-country-article-1.2576194

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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http://imgur.com/QmnjTal

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all this just because Obama's ideals evolved

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

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you truly love the man, don't you?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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no I love you

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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cd you are missing the larger issue with that. Churches are not the same as private businesses, first of all. Apples and oranges. Private businesses that serve the public should not be able to so discriminate as a matter of public policy.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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More importantly businesses restrict commerce when they refuse to do business with you because you're Latino or black or gay or whatever. Congress can regulate that. Pernicious discrimination against classes of people should be prohibited.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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It might seem like we should just leave some of these little things alone, why the drama etc. I get that. But here is the problem: if Joe's Wedding Cakes can discriminate, then John's Market next door might think hey, if they can do it, so can I.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Would they be wrong? No, of course not. At what point will you decide it's worth the drama? When people are forced to move because they can't get products and services to live? Again, I don't think we should tolerate it at all.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I would imagine that Jim Crow was somewhat the same, just far more ingrained and therefore acceptable to more people. It's not until attention was called to the injustice that it was really questioned. Allowing the same discrimination against gays

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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seems to be a huge move backward to me. Drag those mouthbreathers into this century, kicking and screaming...My schadenfreude will know no bounds.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I agree completely doctor this is America. But I would have to speak to a Native American to verify

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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Thank you for yet another compliment PLC, that is a perfect article but the compliment goes over the top, i could not write a news piece so well. this talent is all his.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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you know this is off topic and completely unrelated but mainstream republicans always say donald trump doesnt represent their party even though so many are voting for him, you are one who strikes me as may not vote

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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for him but he represents 100% of the things you represent. maybe some differences but perhaps biases keep me from seeing them. Though i believe he is closer to you than any other candidate ever has been, which has been

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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enough justification for you in the past to support a candidate, im really curious about this. this isnt a slander its just how you strike me.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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I thought this was how he strikes you... https://youtu.be/n5vFf4yL8h0

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Summerville, GA 30747, USA

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https://www.isidewith.com/

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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nice one racer.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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I took that test for him, judging by his responses here and BS'ing the rest ... 91% Donald trump.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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87% Gary Johnson

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Summerville, GA 30747, USA

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Gary Johnson! When is that schmo gonna give it up.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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98% Bernie. And 97% Hillary. 81% Gary Johnson lol.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I'd have never guessed that for you doc. ..... RIGHTTTT

H2O @ almost 2 years ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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Yes it's what I expected, strictly from a positional standpoint. The questionnaire didn't ask anything about the rest of the "stuff" surrounding a candidate, like racist remarks or email abuse, that completely affect the actual vote.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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those things dont actually matter and its impossible to ask people in a survey if theyre racist. even klan members check no.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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so im not a fan of hillary but im starting to question just why they hate her so much, there is literally nothing she did for them to hate her so much playing middle of the road the entire time.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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a while ago, before he died and is now sucking unclean ####s in hell, jerry fallwell said that if hillary clinton ran for president and if satan came out of hell and ran against her christians would vote for satan.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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literally no excuse for that kind of hatred besides the rampant hypocrisy from the right.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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I agree WV. Maybe H2O can shed some light on the basis for the HRC hate. PLC likes authoritarianism. Trump support is a given.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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i dont think they have the ability to justify it.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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some people say things like benghazi but thats recent, and was viewed by the lens that already existed before, if they didnt already hate her they wouldnt see anything nefarious there. there is a deeper level that i dont

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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think they can justify anymore, its been so long, original first lady tenure? maybe, but healthcare reform seems so tame now, its a programming i think, the same kind that led to the rise of donald trump.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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a hatred without any other justification than you were told to.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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i work with a guy who owns a 7-11, he wants to kill obama literally because he has to pay $40 per month total for the 16 employees as part of the affordable care act penalty for employers.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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increases in welfare benefits, about his employees that are on welfare because theyre single mothers and he pays tehm $10 per hour.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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i told him to really stick it to obama and pay them just enough to get them off welfare.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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I think a lot of hate for Hillary comes from her actions during the watergate investigation. Or that she turned her back on her conservative republican roots. Or maybe it's because she is a shrill, corporate sell out.

srorriM & ekomS @ almost 2 years ago

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It might also be her ever changing positions to whatever is politically expedient during any given election cycle. Some might just dislike power-hungry establishment shills from Chicago who go to school in Massachusetts

srorriM & ekomS @ almost 2 years ago

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And Connecticut and then live in Arkansas and Washington to become senator of NY....because that makes ####ing sense

srorriM & ekomS @ almost 2 years ago

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And yet she's better than every gop candidate...

srorriM & ekomS @ almost 2 years ago

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she is a very bad liar. lying is to be expected, she is a politician after all, but trying to sympathize with working people is pathetic.

President Not Sure @ almost 2 years ago

Florissant, MO, USA

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I have to say It's vote for Trump before I'd vote for Cruz. Cruz is scary. Are we really up for some Christian sharia law?

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Downtown West, Minneapolis, MN

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Agree that Hillary takes the politically expedient position...she always has. I guess you could say she is consistent in that sense! Grasping at straws here.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Downtown West, Minneapolis, MN

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Bernie is still in it though. One more scandal from Hillary - if it comes soon enough - and he could be nominated. Bernie vs. Trump is Bernie ftw.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Downtown West, Minneapolis, MN

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88% Cruz, 84% Trump, 81% Kasich, 77% Johnson, 30% Clinton, 25% Sanders

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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No surprises there.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Downtown West, Minneapolis, MN

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Nope. None.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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http://newschannel9.com/news/local/georgia-governor-to-announce-fate-of-religious-freedom-bill

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Tucker, GA 30084, USA

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Georgia Governor vetoes discriminatory bill

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Tucker, GA 30084, USA

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At the end of a gun.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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@Evil - 147 FBI agents involved in the e-mail "security audit". Nothing to see here, move along.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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@PLC - No gun involved. Just forced acceptance.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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I dont believe it though, I think you gamed it to pick cruz by a smaller margin. tell me why you are not voting for trump.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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You don't believe me? OMG! How will I ever live with myself?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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it doesnt really matter, though it would be important to explain to you that the governor of georgia was never going to sign the law, even before companies threatened, he only waited so long

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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for the session to end so they couldnt override his veto. nathan deal is a corporate shill, not a jesus shill.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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this is why i refered to racer's previous assessment of democrat vs republican a while ago (democrats get their feelings hurt, republians lose money/freedom)

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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its completely reversed.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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these religious freedom bills are like the targeted abortion bills or voting restrictions, they get tried in one state and then based on their success go through every other red state.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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so you weigh the issue on its face, some christians will have their feelings hurt, other people will lose actual rights/money.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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and it surprises me you dont understand that plc, your shallow intelligence and complete lack of factual support in your arguments had always seemed secular to me.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Hows Drayvon doing? Is he talking yet?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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victory, as always, is ####ing delicious.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Awesome. Does that mean he's ok?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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hes great! a little #### though.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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I can imagine. Just like his mom.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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please please plc, I already accepted your terms of surrender, I am your based god now.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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What?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Your life must be pretty pathetic. You see surrender where there is no war. Was this a debate? Was there a point of contention? What did I miss?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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as always my proud latin friend, you missed everything

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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you entered a conversation on which you knew nothing about and made a pithy response per your MO. i think explained why you were wrong, and why everything you think related to this subject is wrong.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Either I missed everything or you have a vivid imagination. My money is on the latter.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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i then reference your pattern of being wrong and the reputation it has given you. you proceed to do your dildo waving routine where you try to reference personal information about us, wrong on purpose, as if you have the

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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English please. Type in english. Or calm down.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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upper hand. i imagine with a #### eating grin because you think it makes you smarter, funnier, or just not as retarded as even the other republicans think you are.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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you are the new inexorable, but at least inexorable didnt run away when he got beaten badly, he still kept fighting, as if it mattered at all.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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dildo waving routine? Yup. Your imagination has gotten the best of you again.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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at no point did you suggest i was wrong or why. you didnt touch the topic after that. you resorted to what you *think* works. so while i eat this wonton soup you can bow to your based god.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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if i wanted to continue with that internet reference i would say "then i #### your bitches" but you dont have any bitches, because they all left you for the same severe personality flaws everyone else recognizes in you.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGYHEBpX2xQ

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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You got issues. Its funny though. Watching you wage these imaginary wars claiming your imaginary victories. A man with an empty life must fill it with anything he can find. I guess you found how to address your sad life.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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thats just how i do

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Do I say congrats? Im not really sure how to address something that isnt real.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Oh. youre on a rant again. Sorry. I didnt mean to interrupt. Please continue. (let me know when you're done)

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Are you done celebrating your imaginary victory?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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i will let the voters decide if i just shredded your #### beyond recognition from anyone but the homeless guys you let plow it on friday nights. meanwhile, this wanton soup is delicious.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Ok. Enjoy. Keep your head up. Life gets better. If you ever need to talk, reach out. I'm dead serious. Let me know.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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the most reasonable guy on this app!

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Bishop, CA 93514, USA

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Sheepdog's a guy??! ahh memory lane

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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not since the surgery.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Did you know that I have never had surgery in my life? Not one.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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uncircumcised?

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

North Royalton, OH, USA

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It was a "Chemical Castration"

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Athens, GA, USA

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but generally chemicals wear off and you're back to normal and conversely when Viagra wears off God damnit you're back to normal

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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Except for that whole 4 hour thing

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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Interesting read. http://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/parenting-issues/homosexual-parenting-is-it-time-for-change

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"Studies that appear to indicate neutral to favorable child outcomes from same-sex parenting have critical design flaws."

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"Violence between same-sex partners is two to three times more common than among married heterosexual couples."

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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This explains a lot about josh

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"Over thirty years of research confirms that children fare best when reared by their two biological parents in a loving low conflict marriage."

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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not a biased source at all. do you miss inexorable?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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Biased? Please explain.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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In today's day and age anything and everyone can be considered biased

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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It's too easy to attack the source when you don't agree with the content.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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seriously PLC. ACPeds was founded specifically because it disagreed with the AAP's position on same sec marriage. it's position statement is backed with highly cherry picked references that fit with belief of the founders. highly biased, indeed.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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Science generally starts with data and then reaches a conclusion. These specific pediatricians did the opposite, ie cherry picking.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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The AAP technical paper on the issue http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/131/4/e1374

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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The merchants of doubt are at it again. It's a travesty that political posturing can be passed off as some sort of legitimate science.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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"Over thirty years of research..." Because you could easily find open, same sex couples raising their children without any extraordinary discrimination affecting their lives for the past 30 years.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 2 years ago

Reno, NV, USA

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interesting point Paul, throw that research in the garbage. I know a gay guy raised by a single mother and he came out great even though she's a flaming liberal spouting the most ridiculous well you know what I'm talking about

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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but take me for instance my dad was barely in my life my big brother didn't care about me. the only time you caught me playing ball was in bed but because of my mom I came out okay

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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she got me alone. when I was young you had to steal a penthouse to see a půssy what am I talking about they didn't even show pussy but they were better than Playboy

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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"Biased? please explain" -PLC Do you do any research of the source of your information before running with it? obviously not

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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now 8 year old at their fingertips anything they want. this is a grand social experiment on the children of the planet.

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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https://www.aclu.org/re-gill-about-american-college-pediatricians The American College of Pediatricians is a right wing group that was founded on...and openly admits to...their opposition to homosexuality. yeah...they're a little bit biased

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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The roughly 200 members of the ACP split from the 60,000 member American Academy of Pediatrics in 2002 when the AAP issued a position statement supporting same sex adoption.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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They chose the name American College of Pediatricians in hopes that the more gullible among us would confuse them with an actual medical group that bases their research on scientific principles. Obviously it worked on you.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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f*** yeah now it gets exciting someone just got F'd in the A.

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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what if for some strange reason the child finds homosexuality to be unnatural? the kids at school pick on them and they can see their point that could make a really screwed-up kid. how about religion?

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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some religious people like God or more likely insist God heal their child so obviously you can't discriminate on religion . I guess they'd sneak something in there on the questionnaire

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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there are studies of children growing in violent atmospheres becoming brain ill. can a black couple adopt a child when it is known that their child will be attending one of those violent underfunded schools they speak of?

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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I see attacks on the source but none on the report. Are you saying that because you disagree with them, they are wrong? Dont answer that. Thats your M.O.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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are some children because of race or appearance less desirable as adoptees so they are given to parents with the lowest score? Honey Boo Boo's or the Urkel types? do they sit there waiting like the elongated nippled "overbred dog" my wife fell in

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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The AAP paper is full of PC and distortions. But since you have a PC view yourself, you wont acknowledge that.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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at the doggie adoption center!!! Jesus Christ! The guy says yes she's neutered or spade or whatever they do to dogs and I said "she just gave birth"!

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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"in hopes that the more gullible among us would confuse them with an actual medical group" Are they Pediatricians? Are they Doctors? If not, what are they? Tow truck drivers?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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maybe inexorable never existed and hes been plc this entire time...

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why does everybody change their name or go undefined? Who the f*** is who?

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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I know a woman who frequently left her gay nephew to watch her child and that child turned out gay. gay causes lots of trouble as a matter fact it we were all gay we would cease to exist

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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unless of course and this would be cool,we force the lesbian man-haters to receive our gooey semen injected into they're most sacred place to procreate whether they liked it or not.

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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that's where we'd be heading , that's where we would be if "everybody did it" so as a heterosexuals we are preventing that most invasive thing that would inevitably happen to women..thimk about it

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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@PLC - you stopped my quote a little short. ACP would be proud of your cherry picking information in an effort to manipulate it into suggesting it says something that it doesn't.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Pendergrass, GA 30567, USA

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Would you care to quote what I actually said?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Pendergrass, GA 30567, USA

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He would not, sir

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Downtown West, Minneapolis, MN

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Does it make a difference? Use the whole quote. My point still stands.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Clearly it does make a difference. Otherwise, why would you be arguing against a misrepresentation of my point rather than my actual point?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Tucker, GA, USA

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Would you care to quote my entire sentence? Or would you prefer to continue thrashing that Strawman?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Tucker, GA, USA

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Like I just said. Even with the whole sentence the point stands.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Is this a group of doctors?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Have they based their research on scientific principles?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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The answer to both is yes.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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so...you're too intimidated to quote my entire comment? noted

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

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So I have to actually copy and paste it on a post for you to be satisfied? I've already said twice you can use the whole sentence. I have to actually post it to make you happy?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Because as you know, your happiness and satisfaction is a high priority of mine.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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LMMFPRAO

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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No, you don't have to post my quote in its entirety for me to be happy. You have to post it in order for it to be accurate. Accurate representation of your opposition's position is important to you, isn't it?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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"They chose the name American College of Pediatricians in hopes that the more gullible among us would confuse them with an actual medical group that bases their research on scientific principles." -Racer X

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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They don't base their research on scientific principles. Scientific principles require researchers to objectively evaluate the available data and form a conclusion.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Instead, the ACP base their research on what they feel best supports their predetermined and admitted biased position. That's the opposite of using scientific principles to objectively guide your research.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Let's examine the link you've provided from the ACP...shall we? http://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/parenting-issues/homosexual-parenting-is-it-time-for-change

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The ACP's conclusion is that "There is significant risk of harm inherent in exposing a child to the homosexual lifestyle."

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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...however, the data they've used to reach this conclusion is irrelevant, misleading, and manipulated to reach a predetermined conclusion.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Their argument regarding children needing a mother and a father is based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent raising of children. It is irrelevant to same sex couples.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The fact that they're same sex COUPLES (i.e. 2 people) refutes the data regarding children raised by single parents.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The inclusion of this data is misleading to the ACP report.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Thats not entirely true. You say "Their argument regarding children needing a mother and a father is based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent raising of children."

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"While single parenthood, adoption, and remarriage are each loving responses to failure of the natural family, children reared in these settings face unique challenges." Adoption and remarriage also involves 2 people

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"Children within step families can experience difficulties forging a relationship with the stepparent, and be faced with a sense of divided loyalties." 2 people

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"Every adopted child must come to terms with a sense of rejection from her biologic parents and a longing to know her roots." 2 people (generally)

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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What studies did the ACP article reference for the conclusion they reached regarding this point?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The references are noted. You'll have to look for yourself.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"Their argument regarding children needing a mother and a father is based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent raising of children." is still a false statement. Even if you want to skip past it.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Don't mind if I do. 2. Heuveline, Patrick, et.al. “Shifting Childrearing to Single Mothers: Results from 17 Western Countries,” Population and Development Review 29, no.1 (March 2003) p. 48.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3928681/ Shifting Childrearing to Single Mothers: Results from 17 Western Countries

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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This particular study identifies the problems associated with properly defining the terminology used in family studies.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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"Different family forms are often confused in public rhetoric and sometimes even by those researchers who use marriage as a proxy for a nuclear household or nonmarriage as a proxy for single parenthood."

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The study admits that studies suggesting children fare better in 2 parent households "are largely related to the economic disadvantages faced by single and divorced mothers".

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Again, these studies regarding single parent households are irrelevant to same sex COUPLES.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The ACP article also uses data that has been intentionally manipulated to lead to incorrect results from authors with proven biases.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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"25. Mark Regnerus, How Different are the Adult Children of Parents who have Same-Sex Relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study 41 Social Science Research 752 (2012)"

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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http://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/gender-society/reassessment-effects-same-sex-parents-childrens-adult-outcomes The data in the referenced study has been showed to be misclassified.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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You went from note 2 to 25. Im so glad youre not cherry picking!

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I'm making my point. "...however, the data they've used to reach this conclusion is irrelevant, misleading, and manipulated to reach a predetermined conclusion." -Racer X

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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I've already covered irrelevant (and also misleading). Now I'm moving on to manipulated (and misleading). Try to keep up, won't you?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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http://chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/controversial-gay-parenting-study-is-severely-flawed-journals-audit-finds/30255

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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"The peer-review process failed to identify significant, disqualifying problems with a controversial and widely publicized study that seemed to raise doubts about the parenting abilities of gay couples"

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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"the peer-review system failed because of “both ideology and inattention” on the part of the reviewers (three of the six reviewers, according to Sherkat, are on record as opposing same-sex marriage)"

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The article you've posted and quoted is published by ACP, a self-admitted biased organization. When the bias was mentioned, you questioned how they are biased. I've detailed their bias. They readily admit to it.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Youve covered irrelevant by skipping over references that completely contradict your false statement. Great job hero! When you close your eyes really really tight, you can imagine what you wish.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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You then suggested that rather than pointing out the obvious bias of the authors of the report, any opposition should focus on its content. I did so.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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You missed these points that can be found in the references. "Children growing up with stepparents also have lower levels of well-being than children growing up with biological parents"

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Step parents = 2 parents

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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The article has been shown to have used irrelevant, misleading, and manipulated data in an effort to reach a predetermined conclusion by a self-admitted biased organization with an obvious political agenda.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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"Thus, it is not simply the presence of two parents, as some have assumed, but the presence of two biological parents that seems to support children’s development"

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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biological parents. Get it?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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""Children growing up with stepparents also have lower levels of well-being than children growing up with biological parents" Unless you're arguing that single parents shouldn't be allowed to marry...

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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...I fail to see the relevance of this point.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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you would. It contradicts your statements made here. So you must fail to see it.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Ill keep it simple for you. Are same sex parents considered a stepparent parental situation or a biological parental situation?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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your question has fundamental flaws A homosexual parent can be either a biological or step parent.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The definitions and associated classification is relevant to our discussion.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Also, is a reference to the well being of children raised in a step parent situation a direct contradiction to your now debunked allegation that only single parent situations were referenced?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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same sex parents are step parent situations. No way around it. One may be biological but both cant. Can Not. If one isnt a biological parent, its a step parent situation.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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no. it actually reinforces my point. The study deals with the quantity of parents in the household...not sexual orientation of the parents.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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That wasnt your statement. Your statement said it only compared single parent situations. Should I quote you?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Please do.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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The studies deal with the well being of children in the varying home structures. 2 biological parents being the ideal situation.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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As you read further youll see that there are other factors that make same sex parent situations among the worst for children.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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The benefit would be twofold: 1. My comments are awesome, and everyone benefits from them being continuously reposted. 2. It should clear up your misconceptions that I could possibly be wrong.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Dude, you really need to learn how to scroll up. It aint that difficult.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"Their argument regarding children needing a mother and a father is based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent raising of children."

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent"

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent"

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Wrong

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Again

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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This is a Christian group making a statement. this is not science. this statement has not been peer reviewed. this was an opinion paper, and they are free to have their opinion.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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You'll want to read my ENTIRE statement again. Then ponder on its significance. Then decide whether its factually accurate. Then comment again.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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Take your time. There's no rush. Don't feel compelled to compete with the speed at which I reveal the glaring flaws in your position.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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they don't come right out and state that this is an opinion piece, but they imply it in the conclusion.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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@UndrWater - oh. It's an opinion piece? Well...we all know that opinions can't be wrong. So...

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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"Given the current body of evidence, the American College of Pediatricians believes it is inappropriate, potentially hazardous to children, and dangerously irresponsible to change the age-old prohibition on same-sex parenting, whether by adoption..."

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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"...foster care, or reproductive manipulation. This position is rooted in the best available science."

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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Maybe that's their working hypothesis, but they haven't done the science yet.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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PLC, since you've tipped your hand, how long have you been a Christian? And why does this issue bother you more than God's top 10?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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Racer. You're wrong. Accept it and move on. Youll one day be a better man for it.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Underwater, how long have you been a homosexual parent?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I apologize for calling you out. Does this issue bother you more than God's top ten?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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LOL

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Par for the course.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Given the issue related to adoption has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the parents, this group's position on that matter is against adoption all together and not same sex adoption only. Unless their position isn't based on the research.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 2 years ago

Gardnerville, NV 89410, USA

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precisely

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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The 2 vs 1 parent argument is irrelevant...homosexual couples have 2 people.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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The gays are bad for children argument is based off of manipulated data.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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But it isn't a 2 vs 1 parent argument. I've shown you that when they reference the issues associated with stepparent situations. The best situation is a biological one where both biological parents are present.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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In addition, the family structure is only one part of the equation. Same sex parent situations face other issues that negatively impact the children.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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In addition, the family structure is only one part of the equation. Same sex parent situations face other issues that negatively impact the children.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Looked at with the rational glasses on, not the PC glasses, it's easy to see that children raised in same sex parent families are worse off than children raised by 2 biological parents.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Biological parents, step parents, adoptive parents, single parents, same sex parents. The order from best to worst situations for the children.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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that's not necessarily true where did you derive this sequence?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Monroe, GA 30655, USA

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that sounds suspiciously like a declaration

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Walton County, GA

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That's what I derived from the information I've read. Feel free to disagree. I'm ok with you having your own take on things. Ain't AMERICA great?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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If you want to label it a declaration, do it. Again, I don't care. That's your defense mechanism when you see something you disagree with. Since you're incapable of changing minds. I'll never understand why you even try.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Is it science or opinion?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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@PLC - you keep on mentioning PC. Do you honestly believe that a "PC lens" is how the AAP reached their conclusion?

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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That order of best to worst situation for kids is not based on any rational assessment of facts.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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I honestly believe that PC played a part in the decision making. Honestly.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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You dont agree with my order? Pardon me while I go find my shocked face.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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so even given that one parent households struggle with financial security and the median income for gay couples is higher than the national average, you still believe they are worse of with 2 gay parents than one straight one?

don Pappi @ almost 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

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so the negatives of sexual identity trump the negatives of instability? what factor in the gay couples family structure makes them the worst?

don Pappi @ almost 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

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john galt is back, h20 is back and inexorable is back!

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Don, did you read the reports?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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@plc - can you please describe how children are harmed by being raised by homosexuals?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Conyers, GA 30094, USA

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Read the report. This time read the uncomfortable references that you ignored yesterday. You'll find some interesting #### in there

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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can you please describe how children are harmed by being raised by homosexuals?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

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perhaps we should also discuss or be prepared for the pending riots promised by some black lives matters leaders if Donald Trump is elected

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

North Royalton, OH, USA

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Read the report. This time read the uncomfortable references that you ignored yesterday. You'll find some interesting #### in there

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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so you can't describe how children are harmed by being raised by homosexuals?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Gwinnett Place, GA, USA

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So you can't ####ing read? It's in English.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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The report explains the different factors that impact children in the various family settings. It makes some valid points that will be ignored by you. Sad. Try it. Give it a good honest read. without cherry picking.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I've read the report. Unfortunately, I've also researched the cited references.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

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I recommend you do the same. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2013/suspect-science

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

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Can you articulate in your own words why you feel that being raised by homosexuals is harmful to children?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

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How, precisely, are the children harmed?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

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Read the report. This time read the uncomfortable references that you ignored yesterday. You'll find some interesting #### in there.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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We can discuss the particulars if you'll tell me your specific opposition to children being raised by homosexuals.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

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You cant say youve read it and stand by your statement "Their argument regarding children needing a mother and a father is based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent raising of children."

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I've read the report. Would you care to discuss it?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

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Your strawman argument ("based off of data that solely addresses the issue of single-parent raising")is invalid. Admit that and move on.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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...or were you expecting to just throw it out there and quote it, without any necessity that it be defended...despite the fact that it cites references that are demonstrably inaccurate?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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muy statement is accurate. the report claims that children need a mother and a father. it cites studies detailing children raised by both biological parents vs single parent vs step parents. That data is irrelevant to 2 homosexual parents.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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What "valid points" does the ACP article make? Would you care to discuss them?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Proof that you didnt read it. Thanks.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Are you opposed to children being raised by step parents? Do you think it should be illegal for step parents to raise children?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

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SPLC? Really? And youre complaining about a biased source? OMG!

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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no? you can't articulate the reasoning behind your position? only blindly cite a report that has been proven to be inaccurate? okay

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

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LOL. Feel free to ignore anything I say as you make your petulant demands. Its never worked before. Why would you think it would work now? Seriously. You should read the report. Even if you disagree with some of it.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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You cant honestly say its 100% wrong. Well, you can say that. But that would just show your ignorance and your complete lack of reason. You see what you want to see. Not necessarily whats there.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I've read the report. Would you care to discuss it?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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I started to write something. Then I remembered that Puckered Lips for Cócks doesn't respect facts and has no intellectual honesty. So why bother. Let the troll be.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 2 years ago

Gardnerville, NV 89410, USA

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children of same-sex marriages need to have thick skin we all know that. on the other hand some might benefit so it probably balances out

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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I could have handled two moms my dad didn't teach me s*** and mom was easy to get money from let alone gullible as can be

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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I definitely think a child raised by gays has a much stronger chance of being gay themselves . some are born that way while others may choose or be swayed by their parent's example

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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Children of interracial marriage need to have thick skin, too. They are martyrs to their parents abnormal life choice. If there was any argument against legally recognizing interracial marriage, it is the poor children.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 2 years ago

Gardnerville, NV 89410, USA

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children of fat moms too but interracial children get to hear both sides so they're probably less fearful of racism because their white parent told them the Democrats are lying so don't be so afraid of whites

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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Take a look at the other ACPeds issues on their page. my favorite is abstinence http://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/sexuality-issues/abstinence-education

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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no self-respecting scientific analysis would come to that conclusion. This entire organization does nothing other than provide cover for socially conservative pediatricians with cherry picked BS.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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In the meantime, they found a sucker in PLC.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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and your personal opinions don't have anything to do with your assessment. LOL! We know it does. Therefore, anything and everything they say will be disregarded by you and yours. That's great.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Do children prefer their mothers or their fathers? We can find some studies that show one and some that show the other. Which ones are "correct"? most will side with the ones that match their personal beliefs.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Why?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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abstinence only has been tried and fails miserably in practice. continued advocacy for it in lieu of comprehensive sex ed is irresponsible

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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just like their position on same sex marriage, they started with their socially conservative position and sought evidence in support. PT Barnum would be proud

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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just trying to stick a square peg in your round hole

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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The ACP reminds me very much of Kent Hovind. They push inaccurate information on a gullible population in an effort to promote their agenda.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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The problem, with them both, is they actually try to effect policy with their disinformation. The ACP regularly reaches out to schools with their unsolicited reports in an effort to sway education policy (sex education).

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Their efforts are even more abhorrent in light of the fact that they often file amicus briefs with courts in an effort to sway legal proceedings.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Lord forbid different perspectives to exist. The "My way or the highway" mentality is so ............... you.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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The problem isn't different perspectives. The problem is when one perspective uses intentionally manipulated data to steer public policy.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Public policy decisions shouldn't be based on deception.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/american-college-pediatricians-defames-gays-and-lesbians-name-protecting-children

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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The ACP produces demonstrably non-factual reports, that are cited in efforts to sway public policy.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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SPLC? Funny. Please dont ever ever complain about a biased source again.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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request denied

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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"It's too easy to attack the source when you don't agree with the content." -PLC

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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"I see attacks on the source but none on the report. Are you saying that because you disagree with them, they are wrong?" -PLC

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Is there something specific on the SPLC article with which you disagree? Would you care to discuss it?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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SPLC is as biased as they come. Stop being a hypocrite.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Whatever. The ideal family situation is a biological mom and a biological dad. That's hard to argue against.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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why is that ideal?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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what, specifically, qualify it as ideal?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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is anything less acceptable?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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There are many reasons for that being the ideal. Would you disagree? Why? What factors guided that opinion?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Less is acceptable but still not ideal. Single parent, step parent, adoptive parent situations are a reality of life. Less than ideal but unavoidable.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Can you elaborate on a few of the reasons it's ideal?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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So you disagree?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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so, you're incapable of articulating your position. too nuanced for you?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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I am quite capable. Are you capable of answering a simple question?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Do you disagree with my opinion that the ideal family situation consists of a biological mother and a biological father? If so, Why? What family composition would make the ideal? In your eyes, of course.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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We can discuss my position after discerning the rationale you utilized to develop your declaration.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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We can? Oh thank you soooo much! How generous of you! ####outtahere!

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Let me know when you're willing to give up the interview and engage in a conversation.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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"to develop your declaration" LMMFPRAO!!! How ####ing idiotic and ####ing immature of you. Youre an idiot. Point blank. Nothing more and there is nothing less.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I'm attempting to have a conversation. you're making claims and refusing to discuss them. those are commonly referred to as declarations

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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No you're not. You're trying to be the normal #### your always are. You're trying to interrogate me. To disagree with anything I say. My answer to you is a clear "#### you dick". Let that be clear.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I'm trying to get you to discuss your claims. its called having a discussion

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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LOL! Go interview somebody else.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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And once again you've failed.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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If you consider my opinions declarations, so be it. Says more about you than it says about me. Insecure little bitch that you are.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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You obviously came from a broken home.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I feel bad for your family whenever you have kids.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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so, you don't want to discuss your claims?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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You like to try to keep people on the defensive. That's your style. There's no conversation with you. And it's pathetic. I don't mind sharing my opinions on anything. I don't need to be interrogated over them.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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If you want to engage in a conversation over them, fine. We can do that. Ask what you want and I'll answer. As long as you do the same. When you try to make it a war, I'm out. I'm not looking to "win" anything or change

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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anyone's mind. I like the color red. Your approval isn't required. Damn, I feel like I've said this before.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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yes, but what makes the biological parents ideal for child well-being?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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I'm to blame for you being defensive?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Im not looking to discuss my opinions with a person who doesnt wish to discuss his. Opinion. Not claim. Opinion. Subjective/objective. What I feel is a "better" situation. Feel. Better. Subjective.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Youre to blame for you being a dick.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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and a pussy. at the same time

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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so...your inability to discuss your opinion makes me genitalia?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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No. YOUR inability to discuss make you genitalia.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I'm attempting to discuss your comments. You're adamantly refusing to do so.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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No youre not. Youre attempting to investigate my comments. In an effort to discredit them. Instead of discussing the topic.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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hows that working out for ya?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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awesome everyone clearly sees that you cannot support your comments

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Awesome. Thanks for playing. Im sorry I wasnt able to garner your approval today. Im sorry that you werent able to make me see things right. Better luck next time.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Im really bummed that my opinions didnt get your seal of approval. What will I ever do with myself?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Is that like, everyone everyone? Like everyone in the whole wide world? Or is it everyone youve spoken to? Or everyone on VM? Who is this "everyone" that you speak of? I asked a co worker. You didnt ask him?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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every sentient being in the multiverse is aware of your inadequacies

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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They have full knowledge that you cannot explain what makes biological parents ideal for raising children.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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LOL! You get more and more pathetic with each post.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Sucks that you dont even have the balls to put your opinion out to the multiverse. They all already know the coward that you are. They told me. In a group text.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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They said "who the #### does this idiot think he is?" I told them that I wondered the same.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I'm far too timid to voice my opinion...I wish I was as masculine as you, plc.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Can you teach me your secret of being so vocal that everyone knows exactly what you mean with absolutely no ambiguity?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Life will teach you most of it. I can't. I'm good, but I'm not a magician.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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then, how'd you pull that gerbil out of your åss?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Gerbil? What? That wasnt MY ass dummy. That was your mothers ass. Remember? The time she was blowing you and she asked you to put it in her ass and you did. Then you couldnt get it out. How could you forget?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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You know how you inbred georgia bumkins do. We all know. Even the multiverse.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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This is why you'll never learn how to be a man. Not even the multiverse can help you. You're proof that a broken home results in broken toys.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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(FYI dummy, you can type ass.)

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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No, I can't. I'm far too prude to type such crude language.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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You're not smart enough to be a prude.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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i had a big long bit to type out, a recreation of david lettermans top 10 lists, it was great, it would be a lot of things plc has never said in his life, consisting of things like

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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"after reviewing the source material i see the fatal flaw in my logic i apologize." "your honor i believe i am capable of weekend visitation rights." and "i apologize for wasting everyones time."

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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and it was going to end with #1 being "i dont believe i can fit that much #### in my mouth." it was going to be hillarious and plc would get enraged and try to flood it off the screen with garbage posts.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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but now i gotta go to work, have fun ladies.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Confusius say " Mexican who go to work at 7pm is a ####ing illegal immigrant"

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I don't think Confucius said that. Can you please provide your source?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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its in the ACP report. You should read it. It's in one of the references.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Just as I suspected more bullshït referenced by those idiots.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Let's not get crazy. You ain't reading that to save your life. Lord forbid you look at anything outside of your narrow minded views.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I didn't realize those guys covered illegal immigration too! Where do they find the time to do all that medical research?

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I'm sure your dumb ass didn't read it either. For the same reasons.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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But Confucius is in there. As is immigration and enabling child abuse. A topic you're familiar with .

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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there are more kids that need to be adopted than there are families (functional or otherwise) to adopt them. these fake research reports don't matter unless these groups can manufacture "acceptable" parents out of thin air.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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there's a reason orphanages don't exist anymore, but foster care is just a small improvement over an orphanage.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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my personal challenge to Christian families: adopt them ALL.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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But then they wouldn't be hypocrites.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Even the gay Christian families? Even though we all know that's not the ideal situation? Why do you idiots hate the children? I think (hope) that you fools will think differently when you have your own children.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Unless you're as bad a parent as Lorie.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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this whole thing is just sad.

[412035] @ almost 2 years ago

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Children with same sex parents? I agree. Horribly sad.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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You've yet to articulate what makes the biological parents ideally suited to raise children. Until you do that, the conversation cannot develop further.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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I personally think that the ideal situation for raising children is dependent upon the support, education, support, and LOVE they are given...regardless of the quantity of guardians.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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Quality of parental involvement is far more significant than quantity.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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A devoted single parent (hetero or homosexual) could potentially provide a better environment for raising a child than a couple (biological, step, or foster) who disregard the child.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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@plc - there's no need for you to be so smug about the fact that you're an amazing family man. Just because your wife and children are completely devoted to you is no reason for you to rub other people's noses in it.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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Yes, your relationship with your family is clearly the model after which all child upbringing should be modeled, but not everybody is capable of providing the stable environment and devoted, unconditional love that you did.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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I just hope that I can be half the father and husband that you've been...that my wife and kids will have the same inseparable bond that you share with yours. <fingers crossed>

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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I would say you're a lucky man, but that would completely devalue the years of selfless sacrifice and commitment you've striven towards ensuring that your family has the most ideal structure possible.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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It must make you very proud for your wife and kids to know that you've always been there for them. we should use your personal story of how to raise a family...and look back with zero regrets

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Lawrenceville, GA 30045, USA

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since you clearly don't mind delving into people's personal experiences with child rearing...can you give us some pointers from your own personal experience on how to properly raise children to their full potential?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Snellville, GA, USA

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someday I hope to have children of my own (god willing)...and could use the advice of someone who obviously has it all figured out.

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Snellville, GA, USA

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A single gay parent who doesn't abuse his child would be better for a child than hetero biological parents who beat and abuse the child. That's a given. Nobody here has said anything differently. Not that I know of.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I thought gay parents were detrimental to raising children?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30087, USA

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now, you're agreeing with my assessment...even to the point of admitting that a single (bad) gay (the worst) parent could provide a better environment than the biological (ideal) parents of a child? how very nuanced of you

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

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Gay parents are not as ideal as 2 biological parents but its better than abusive parents of any makeup. Ive never said anything different. I stated what I thought would be the ideal situation.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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2 loving biological parents are better than 2 loving same sex parents.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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i·de·al īˈdē(ə)l/Submit adjective 1. satisfying one's conception of what is perfect; most suitable.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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foster care is not better. The point is moot so long as kids are in "the system". stability is better than instability. get these kids into stable families...no matter what they look like.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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the ACP can also make the policy issue moot by adopting ALL of the children into stable typical households.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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How many kids have you adopted?

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I think the only real problem that those adopted kids would have with gay parents would be the other kids at school

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

North Royalton, OH, USA

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I've adopted two.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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that's irrelevant though. policy intended to keep "non-ideal" families from adopting will keep children in the foster care system. not sure anyone can argue that that's more ideal.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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keep more children in the foster care system. it's funny that no one wants big government until they do.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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pastors could tell their congregations "skip your tithes, adopt a child". bad for business, I suppose.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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you have two gay parents living at your house? just kidding! Wait a minute, did you just come out of the closet? which I'm totally cool with! As I've always said

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

North Royalton, OH, USA

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The foster system is broken. It's almost as bad as same sex couples adopting.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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You've lost your mind.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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Good answer! Good answer! Please tell me what to think oh great one. All of us with our own opinions crave your wisdom. How we've managed to live our lives without it is a miracle. A miracle, I tell you!

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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do you agree, PLC? The point is moot?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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pink, which closet are we talking about?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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I'm thinking the one my daughter just came out of!

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

North Royalton, OH, USA

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Was she in there with a black guy?

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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water is black?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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ha!

Racer X @ almost 2 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

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I'll accept your silence as agreement.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Southwood Riviera, Torrance, CA 90505

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god created marriage between a man and a woman.

[412035] @ over 1 year ago

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god told me to run for president.

[412035] @ over 1 year ago

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god told me not to tow a sanders supporter http://abc7chicago.com/news/tow-truck-driver-says-he-thinks-god-told-him-not-to-help-disabled-sanders-supporter/1324951/

[412035] @ over 1 year ago

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It's in the bible!

UndrWater @ over 1 year ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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what a waste of time learning the views of one ass hole

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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oh let it go, ted cruz finally dropped out and you got your guy!

[412035] @ over 1 year ago

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I'm beginning to think he can beat Hillary even though he doesn't know #### about ####

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

North Royalton, OH 44133, USA

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youre an idiot and even youre smarter than that. what you should be worried about is your senator.

[412035] @ over 1 year ago

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just to clarify I was calling the tow truck driver an ass hole

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

North Royalton, OH 44133, USA

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the tow truck driver isnt going against hillary, i was directly responding to this "I'm beginning to think he can beat Hillary even though he doesn't know #### about ####"

[412035] @ over 1 year ago

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i thought that remark was a response to my ted cruz reply which a sarcastic response to you calling the tow truck driver an #### because ted cruz did say god told him to run, which was one of the other things i said.

[412035] @ over 1 year ago

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which was meant to broaden the fact you are just calling one guy an #### when theyre all ####s.

[412035] @ over 1 year ago

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broaden the fact :-)

Mr. Pink @ over 1 year ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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