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Should Apple be forced to rewrite their OS code to allow encryption to be disabled without wiping data?

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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No. Absolutely not. If the FBI have a problem, they can solve it themselves.

UndrWater @ over 1 year ago

South Redondo, Redondo Beach, CA

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and the key here is, disable the encryption without the encrypter's knowledge or permission.

UndrWater @ over 1 year ago

South Redondo, Redondo Beach, CA

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I'm impressed that Apple devices are so impenetrable.

UndrWater @ over 1 year ago

South Redondo, Redondo Beach, CA

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I agree wholeheartedly, Undr.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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I really do think the encryption question will come up to SCOTUS soon. Which is unfortunate because I don't think any of them have a clue.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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i hate iphones.. useless

Free Thinker Loves Jesus @ over 1 year ago

Olive Branch, MS, USA

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Not useless if you want to keep your encrypted data encrypted. I don't think there is an Android phone on the market that is do secure out of the box.

UndrWater @ over 1 year ago

South Redondo, Redondo Beach, CA

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*so secure

UndrWater @ over 1 year ago

South Redondo, Redondo Beach, CA

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Only blackphone that I'm aware of, and not exactly mainstream like iPhone

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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I like both platforms so I have an iPad and an Android phone. I do most of what you might think of as "household" business on the iPad.

Dr. Evil @ over 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I'm glad Google finally stepped up in support of Apple's position.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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Androids interface is best plus there more free apps and free other things wife cant do on her iPhone

Free Thinker Loves Jesus @ over 1 year ago

Olive Branch, MS, USA

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@Free - http://phandroid.com/2009/06/09/nsfw-dildroid-your-android-is-now-a-vibrator/

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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Guess phones can do about everything these days

Free Thinker Loves Jesus @ over 1 year ago

Southaven, MS, USA

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Oh, that wasn't what you were referring to? :P

Tjaden Froyda @ over 1 year ago

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I read Tim Cooke's letter on it. I basically agree with that.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Also Apple's macs are pretty secure out of the box, upon setup they ask if you want to do full-disk encryption.

The Drew @ over 1 year ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Not sure if any of you listen to Warren Olney or not, but today's episode was about this issue. The sides were very well represented, including the woman arguing the government's side.

UndrWater @ over 1 year ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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I say if the FBI really needs the data it they should use due process through the court. Other than that they should leave their hands off that data and let Apple take care of it.

CD1 @ about 1 year ago

Shoreview, MN, USA

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Welcome fellow Minnesotan! I agree, but is the FBI's justified in using the All Writs Act compel Apple to write the necessary software to comply?

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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no

Racer X @ about 1 year ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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that Act should only be used by Good Will Hunting to beat court charges

Racer X @ about 1 year ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Hi Shoreview, Lakeland here!

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Another great one by John Oliver re encryption: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsjZ2r9Ygzw

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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The ad at the end....priceless.

UndrWater @ about 1 year ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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I believe I heard someone from the NSA (or retired from), saying that the FBI could ask them to open the phone, and that they could absolutely do it. this person was convinced the FBI is looking for precedent.

UndrWater @ about 1 year ago

Old Town Torrance, Torrance, CA

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Of course they are looking for precedent. Just this one phone. Oh wait, this one too. And this one. ad nauseum

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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Where does the back door end? Is it only communications? Electronic currency is also an encryption. Where is our constitutional reasonable expectation of privacy? And now the information is being shared with other agencies.

evetsno1 @ about 1 year ago

Sterling Heights, MI, USA

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Not just terrorism anymore. It would dissolve the constitution in one fell swoop. Police state is coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

evetsno1 @ about 1 year ago

Sterling Heights, MI, USA

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The mechanisms for the backdoor proposed by the FBI for iOS are significantly different than anything to do with cryptocurrency. Actually, this specific backdoor has little to do with encryption at all.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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with all the paid protesters at trump rallies I think the deal is to declare martial law then obama gets to be king

President Not Sure @ about 1 year ago

Florissant, MO, USA

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It does change the rules on encryption tho. Currencies sovereignty is based on that encryption. Don't forget also, the quantum computer is coming. Encryption will not stand alone if the government can decrypt it.

evetsno1 @ about 1 year ago

Sterling Heights, MI, USA

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I think the back door is an end run around encryption until such time as they can decrypt it.

evetsno1 @ about 1 year ago

Sterling Heights, MI, USA

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They will change the rules to suit their tyranny.

evetsno1 @ about 1 year ago

Sterling Heights, MI, USA

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The existing encryption algorithms for crypto like btc, ltc, ETH don't work that way. There can't be a master private key

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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No that's what the back door is for but the day will come when those encryption will be easier to break or they will limit your encryption power to codes that can be broken.

evetsno1 @ about 1 year ago

Sterling Heights, MI, USA

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The way bitcoin implements sha-256, a back door isn't possible. Brute force with quantum computing, OTOH, is years away.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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Welcome back, BTW. Everyone is coming out of the woodwork. I suppose we'll see Arcadia, Ami, and inex anytime now

Tjaden Froyda @ about 1 year ago

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Ami ran off like a little girl. I was shocked. Sure wish Arcadia was around though!

Dr. Evil @ about 1 year ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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even in death he exists in Arcadia

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ about 1 year ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

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It's good to be back... Maybe! Lol

evetsno1 @ about 1 year ago

Sterling Heights, MI, USA

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