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VM cons: Do you *really* think America is as bad off as the GOP candidates are pitching on the stump?

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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Isn't that the norm? When a R is in office, the Rs running to replace him want to "continue the great work he's done". Same with the Ds

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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The other party cries about how bad the sitting party has done and promises to fix everything they screwed up.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Americans buy the D vs R crap and once in office, it's business as usual.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Bloated, unmanageable government. The reason Trump is doing so well. People are tired of the same ole same ole. The reason the Ds dont support that change is that their party is currently in office.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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A rebuke of the system = a rebuke of their own party. And they cant have that.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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https://youtu.be/UJD1oDKKMdM

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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I understand the reason behind the rhetoric. that's not the question, though. the question was, to frame it another way: do you believe it?

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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in some critical areas, they are in the ballpark. . 1: foreign policy 2: employment and wages 3: isis and other terrorist groups pose minimal threat / jv teams 4: the American dream is almost non-existent for future generations .

H2O @ almost 2 years ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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5: capitalism is bad 6: global warming is absolutely man created, same as 70's global cooling 7: immigration amnesty is a right 8: all cops are racist .

H2O @ almost 2 years ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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do you really think ISIS has been treated like a JV team?

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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Who took over PLC's profile?

rob @ almost 2 years ago

Palo Alto, CA, USA

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nobody. sheepdog is a metaphor

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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yes I do, Skal . didn't the president even call them such? . a couple sorties per day is a joke.. . We're depending on Russia to stop them & keep our citizens safe?

H2O @ almost 2 years ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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he did call them that early on. a mistake. but we've been fairly effective at targeting their leadership. we're supporting other Muslims to defeat these Muslim extremists.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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of course we could go in with ground troops to interfere with Syria's civil war, and then stick around for a while to nation build but that worked out so well last time. Syria *is* Russia's client state... let them throw their money in a fire

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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particularly when oil prices are so low - Russia can't afford it.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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re keeping our citizens safe: our citizens are at much greater risk from radicalization of Muslims already living here. not ISIS fighters abroad. extreme hateful rhetoric isn't helping. behavior towards Muslims at Trump rallies has been abhorrent.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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it's never as bad as what the party out of power says and it's never as good as what the party in power says.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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water brother, some would say that capitalism has created that poor "American dream" condition you mention. still, I agree it's a problem. regarding global cooling, wasn't really a thing: https://youtu.be/bwQmP7T2SbU

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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I'm also curious about the "immigration amnesty is a right" thing...never heard anyone say that.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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foreign policy - what about it?

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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Well stated Undr, I'd like to know these things as well.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Regarding the radicalisation of Muslims living here..what's up with Minnesota's problems in terms of that?

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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I also agree with the Doc comment right above Undr's. It's campaign season so there will be exaggerations.

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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https://www.google.com/search?q=federal+funds+rate+historical+chart&oq=federal+funds+rate+historical&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.331j0j4&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=JVX2ZzOvOi3bsM%3A

Mr. Pink @ almost 2 years ago

Medina, OH 44256, USA

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@drew - this article does a great job at describing some of the "why" http://www.thetower.org/article/why-are-there-jihadists-in-minnesota/

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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@drew - again, I understand there are exaggerations during silly season. But do people really believe them?

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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Unsure, there aren't many conservatives over here ;)

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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I sure miss NY's "liberal vs more liberal" politics, but I have to say I appreciate the fact that in MN the power balance teeters back and forth. I believe more viewpoints are heard that way.

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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We have a diverse state, politically. Bachmann/Emmers to Franken to Ventura.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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It looks as if the general consensus to the OP question is, "not really".

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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I believe things are just as bad as the gop says the same as I believe things are great like obama and hillary say.

President Not Sure @ almost 2 years ago

Florissant, MO, USA

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Interestingly, Sanders has to sorta make the same case but from the lefty view of it.

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

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I guess his version is it's gotten a bit better but... BARELY! Millionaires and Billionaires!

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

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just checked the caucus results. Cruz? the delegate count on this one is interesting. with 93% reporting, Hillary is ahead of the Bern by less than 1%. she'll get 400 something delegates to his 30 something.

tasty riff @ almost 2 years ago

Bella Vista, CA 96008, USA

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the DNC will fu©k over Bernie. and as much as the GOP will want to call out Hillary for it, they can't. They are spineless and they know it.

tasty riff @ almost 2 years ago

Bella Vista, CA 96008, USA

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that was a wildly inaccurate delegate result I saw earlier. right now they have it 22 to 21

tasty riff @ almost 2 years ago

Bella Vista, CA 96008, USA

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695 to 693 state delegates at the moment with 99% reporting. Close one, that's for sure.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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I'm very happy with Rubios results. Hopefully he can grow from there.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Hillary eeked out a win. Bernie did very well but I think he really needed a proper Iowa.. He'll win NH but that's home base. The other states have bad demographics for him.

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Kips Bay, New York, NY

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But Killer Mike!

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Kips Bay, New York, NY

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i was surprised to hear that the dem female vote was split. With the younger women going for Sanders.

jc @ almost 2 years ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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You jest, but this is a guy who was never supposed to have a chance to begin with.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 2 years ago

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I think Hillary's actions during the Bimbo eruptions are being seen in a new light by the youngest women who might be learning of that stuff for the first time.

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Kips Bay, New York, NY

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More of a side reason though, cuz Bernie simply has major support with younger crowd (at least the younger white crowd) .

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Kips Bay, New York, NY

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i think it's because the older women want to see a female president in their lifetime. The younger women see it as inevitable, so there is no rush.

jc @ almost 2 years ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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As well as the older ones being less idealistic and more accepting of Hillary's dishonesty.

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Kips Bay, New York, NY

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Trump's underperformance just swapped his and Rubio’s fortunes in the betting markets. At least this round, the betting markets were just as wrong as the polling.

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Kips Bay, New York, NY

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I don't think it's her dishonesty. rather it's the discomfort older folks (like I'm starting to become) have with major disruption of the status quo.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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The clever Berniebro would lean in and whisper "pssst don't be scared, he's unlikely to really accomplish any " revolution", it's all about attitude and moving the Overton window"

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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;)

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

South Redondo, Redondo Beach, CA

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Its Bad 18 Trillion in debt more useless wars. we have complete Morons on both sides running who will do more of the same (Remember Obama promises?) Until theres a claspe in our political system and stop two party system. itll get worse.

Free Thinker Loves Jesus @ almost 2 years ago

Olive Branch, MS, USA

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I don't think they're morons. they are human like you and I, trapped in a system that forces their behavior. run off voting!

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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Instant runoff... Regular runoff is too expensive.

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

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we'll make Mexico pay for it!

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Southwood Riviera, Torrance, CA 90505

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shouldn't the clinton foundation pay for it? I would bet it has more money than Mexico.

President Not Sure @ almost 2 years ago

Florissant, MO, USA

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Mexico seems to be doing all right. Also you guys do know that net migration is into Mexico, not the other way around...right?

Dr. Evil @ almost 2 years ago

Quintana Roo, Mexico

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Chinese see Mexico as an improvement .

H2O @ almost 2 years ago

Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA 22553, USA

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kids are on your lawn again!

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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"Net migration is into Mexico" makes it sound like more Americans are migrating into Mexico than Mexican migrating into the U.S.! LMAO!

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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It's actually more Mexicans going back than Mexicans crossing in this direction. It's probably a short term phenomena, but it's real.

jc @ almost 2 years ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

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I know what it is.

Taco Bowl @ almost 2 years ago

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Hate both Cruz and Trump but Cruz's ads are hilarious. https://youtu.be/1ItyBa3zFwY

The Drew @ almost 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

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wow! Crazy funny.

UndrWater @ almost 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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To answer the post, it depends on where you live and what you do for a living.

Bankai! @ over 1 year ago

Franklin, TN, USA

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