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The Singularity is coming.

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

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I've been fascinated with the concept of Artificial General Intelligence for a short while, and am blown away by what I've been reading and watching.

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Sandy Springs, GA, USA

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I personally think it's inevitable.

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Sandy Springs, GA, USA

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how quickly, and when does will the elimination many jobs worldwide be an issue?

don Pappi @ about 2 years ago

Horn, University Heights, IA

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I thought we went through that a gazillion times Don.

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

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The big worry is Skynet though or the Matrix. Don, you can be our Morpheus!

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

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This is VM. When does that matter?

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

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pappi tell me you aren't afraid of automation and technological advancement?

Arlington Heights @ about 2 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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no. not afraid at all. it should make things more efficient all the way around. while it's easy to say to the low skilled worker (in other countries maybe even more than here) to get a skill, the fact remains there will always be low skilled workers.

don Pappi @ about 2 years ago

Longfellow, Iowa City, IA

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those are the easiest to replace with technology and especially singularity. so not scared, just know that is something that will have to be dealt with.

don Pappi @ about 2 years ago

Longfellow, Iowa City, IA

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Yes I agree that progress and advancement do negatively impact those displaced who are unprepared. That's not limited to unskilled workers either of course. It is always a net gain for the overall economy though. The displaced folks need to move on

Arlington Heights @ about 2 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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and learn another skill.

Arlington Heights @ about 2 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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not always possible, particularly for older workers.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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I'm just waiting for the fat chair, like in wall-e.

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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net gain for society. absolutely. you shouldn't hold up progress. but it would be very ignorant to dismiss or ignore displaced workers must be dealt with in some fashion

don Pappi @ about 2 years ago

Longfellow, Iowa City, IA

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Exactly. Displaced younger workers will be much better off. Older ones, not so much. There will be lots of them (and they vote).

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

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I call them Joe Smiths. http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/chap07p4.html

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Midtown, New York, NY

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But yeah you got it Don.

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Midtown, New York, NY

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Major breakthrough that should enable these other ones is that we've now figured out how to use DNA to encode data. Going from binary code to quaternary, the

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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entire content of recorded human history would fit in a 9 liter jar.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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It's a new technology, and read/write speed is too slow to be practical...but it won't take too long for that end of things to ramp up. Couple that with artificial intel developments of late...wow.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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data retrieval speed would be an issue beyond r/w algorithms will rule the world

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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vm oversimplification on my part Skäl sorry. But it's obvious that using millions of years of data storage optimization, courtesy of mother nature, is going to break everything wide open.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I don't disagree that it'd be great for long term storage. just less than ideal for rapid queries

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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data storage isn't much of an issue, anyways. it's relatively cheap. data processing OTOH

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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Seems like speed is an issue that can be resolved, Skäl. Materials science breakthroughs are also providing the ability to arrange soft tissue. Quite the challenge. But another piece of the puzzle becoming reality.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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soft tissue is one thing, dynamically reading and writing base pairs, and unwrapping them from histones is another. sounds years away. and if we get there, we'll have a cancer cure too from the same DNA editing technology. beats CRISPR

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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...as well as other means of extending life, yes. But there are so many astounding breakthroughs on so many disparate yet relevant fronts!...all these were unthinkable only a few months ago. It's all building on itself.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I think this dna thing has wheels and it's going to ride an unprecedented materials science wave into reality. I give it 5 years to bear some serious fruit.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Soft tissue engineering is nothing to dismiss, either Skäl. Engineers work with hard stuff. We don't have much luck historically with soft stuff, say the consistency of brain tissue our a jellyfish. Or DNA arrangements.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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https://youtu.be/xH_B5xh42xc

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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https://youtu.be/PL0Xq0FFQZ4

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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http://www.enterrasolutions.com/2013/06/can-machine-intelligence-emerge-from-a-single-algorithm.html

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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http://www.entropica.com

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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https://youtu.be/CK5w3wh4G-M

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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not dismissing ST engineering at all, particularly when combined with 3D printing techniques. all I'm saying is DNA data storage faces significant tech hurdles on both the writing and reading ends. sequencing is getting faster and cheaper.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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http://intelligenceexplosion.com

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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synthesis is a ways behind. it'll be interesting to see how it plays out, but 5 years seems a bit soon

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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Right on Skäl. I'm just more optimistic on the rate of overcoming said hurdles.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Racer, a line from the article above stood out at me: "The bottom line is that complexity has been shown to emerge from simplicity." Origin-of-life-worthy, evolution-supporting bit of logic right there.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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you might have some privileged information... ;-)

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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What we are striving for here, ultimately, is an artificial human. Used in parts perhaps and not the whole. The path leading us there is aligned with the path from origin of life to human.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/sex-robots-should-be-banned-say-campaigners-as-engineers-look-to-add-ai-to-sex-toys-10501622.html this pretty much encompasses all of that.

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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I thought AI sex robots was the pinnacle of potential human accomplishment. The mission for which all of human existence has been striving.

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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that's what I was implying

Tjaden Froyda @ about 2 years ago

Burnsville, MN, USA

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