7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

There is something definitely up with this prosecutor..... http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/11/28/prosecutor-who-let-darren-wilson-slide-is-charging-a-black-cop-for-hitting-a-suspects-hand/

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Comments (306)

A65883f45a009bb03df1abdb3586e698

It's over, you can't see that Mike Brown was a thug...... And was responsible for his death.

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ over 2 years ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Maybe if you looked at the 2 situations you would see that one was committing a crime and the other wasn't. Completely different situations. But when you only see race, you might see what you want to see.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Things like this make you appear no better than the klan. A racist POS is a racist POS no matter what his race is. Rise above this nonsense. You're better than this. Aren't you?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/ferguson-prosecutor-indicted-cop-for-using-baton/

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

plc please don't speak on things you know nothing about.......

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

so I guess I harassed and murdered innocent white ppl?..... your comparison is insulting.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

i created a system that limited and in a lot of ways stripped the rights of white ppl away?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

my point is valid......based on the officers story he was well within his rights.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

i am a racist because I ask the question?...... considering Americas track record with civil rights i would be a fool not to.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

why is the prosecutor prosecuting this officer of the law who practiced restraint?....

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

yeah you are I right plc I am the black Klans man!!!!.....my questioning of the system has suppressed white people.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

thats bull####....

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

why aren't you defending this officer? why don't you question the prosecutor?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Because everything's not always in black and white

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ over 2 years ago

Brook Park, OH 44142, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I think the officer was wrong. From what I've read. He struck in anger. He wasn't threatened. And yes. You are a ####ing racist. Your ideals are just as bad as the Klan. Black racist is just as bad as a white racist.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Thats how they get black people to not speak a out racial issues they just call us racist ...... that is bull####.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

if you could only understand how stupid you sound

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

how do you know he struck out of anger.....?????

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

are you in his head?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

fo you know hos heart?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

do you know his heart?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

did you watch my video of the officers account?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

is that not enough proof?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

it was enough in every other instance, but for some reason not this one.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

you know what is dumb about your klans men argument? One is real and one is not....

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

one has killed thousands mercilessly, and the other are a group just asking for fair treatment

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

One has organized operatives at every level of our government. The other has al sharpton.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

at most, if all, Dawon Gore should have been disciplined internally..... not prosecuted for doing his job.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

this guy could be facing jail time.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

my ideals are racist? I guess my idea that everyone should be treated equally under the law, and that all life has equal value is the mosxt racist #### don imus?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

He is right thinker you do have a bit of a chip on your shoulders and we understand completely but you have to allow whites a little bit of anger

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ over 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

over what, you have the world. what do you have to be angry about pink...... (no sarcasm)

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

black people are being beat and shot in the street like dogs at this point daily by law enforcement ......and it is sanctified by the law.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

my anger comes from the fact that none of you see a problem with this.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

there is always a reason why it was ok for that black person to die at the hands of the law regardless of whether or not the situation called for...... in your minds the situation always calls for it.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

when i say none of you i am talking about ppl on this app.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I see a problem with your exaggerations. I see a problem with your blind support for anyone black. Criminal or not. I see a ironies with your ignorance of the law. I see a lot of problems.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

A problem not ironies

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

what exaggerations?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

i dont side with anyone that is black..... wrong is wrong.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

but you dont see a problem with your statement?..........

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Why would you make a statement like that?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

where did you comw up with your conclusion that hecstruck out of anger?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

8cbaf35ad0674762199a66cfbb03c55d

Wasn't McCullough father a police officer that was killed in the line of duty by a black man. Does anyone see this as a possible problem?

Mr. P @ over 2 years ago

Derby, CT, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

shawn bell 50 ####ing shots fired at an unarmed man..... They all get to retire with nice pensions...... This is not right it just isn't.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

plc did you watch my other video. McCollough basically handed the Jury false information with the intent on leading the jury to not indict.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

should mike brown have been punished for his actions.......you bet your ass he should have, but his life should have been spared.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

the prosecutor is supposed to work to get justice for the people....... McCollough did not.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Detroit, MI, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

The Ferguson case should never had gone to grand jury. It only did for political reasons. You aren't capable of understanding that because of your racist mindset.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Sean Bells case should never have gone to trial. It did for political reasons. You CAN'T run over or attack the police. You just can't. It's not only an attack on the police, it's an attack on society as a whole.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

If you show me a case where an officer assaults or kills a civilian without the civilan first committing a crime, I'll take a look and come up with a fair opinion of who I think is right based on whatever info on hand.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Race be damned

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

South Carolina Trooper fires at man getting his license as directed. Trooper was wrong, fired and charged. Appropriately. #### who is what race. I honestly don't care. You do. That's all you care about.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

McCullough did get justice for the people. Your racist views prevent you from seeing that. The victim was Wilson.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Society as a whole doesnt accept your black is right at all cost mentality. Do you want your people not beaten assaulted or killed by the police? Tell them to STOP BREAKING THE LAW!!

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Not all blacks people break the law. Not all blacks people are beaten by the police. The ones that do obey the law rarely have problems. The ones that don't usually do. What does this tell you?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

My sentiments exactly. http://youtu.be/oTUqOBJsRdg

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

8cbaf35ad0674762199a66cfbb03c55d

Isn't profiling illegal? Don't police in some communities profile. Are these people that are pulled over for DWB breaking the law?

Mr. P @ over 2 years ago

Derby, CT, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

"black people are being beat and shot in the street at this point daily by law enforcement".. . am I to assume you mean innocent black people? .

H2O @ over 2 years ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

black people are being beat and shot in the street at this point daily by black people. . want to tell us which one had the higher chance of happening and which has the higher outrage by you? .

H2O @ over 2 years ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Thinker ain't worried bout reality. He just wants to blame the man. Truth be damned.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I don't get it. Mentality like thinkers only hurts black people. You're condonong criminal behavior. Blacks need to start condemning this behavior within it's ranks. If not, you'll continue down this bad path.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

plc I'm confused. you have defended police in every other instance. given reasons why they should do things others see as out of the ordinary. taken there word for how the events happened. why not this cop?

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

so this time the guy was obeying the law and did nothing wrong, and the cop used force not needed. went don't you believe his account of what happened?

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

and for the record in not defending him. I would just like to know why every other instance, like the kid in new York being beaten by a baton while another cop held him down it's, he must have been doing something wrong. but not this time.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

this cop said he felt threatened. told they guy to leave several times and he didn't. isn't this where you usually say he should have just followed the cops orders? he brought it upon himself.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

should he have done nothing and let the guy take his baton and beat him with it like he said he would. you have posted lots about cops being victims of their own weapons.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

please give me some clarity on what's different in this case.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

No need to be confused. I haven't defended cops in every instance. Only when I feel they're right. This guy appears to be wrong.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

8cbaf35ad0674762199a66cfbb03c55d

Yes H2O you assume correct.

Mr. P @ over 2 years ago

Derby, CT, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

wrong how? he says he was threatened with a beating by his own weapon. he told the guy to leave. the guy did not. why wrong this time. what should the cop have done?

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

i prefer to discuss with the facts we have. Did he try to take the officers baton? Are you trying to be facetious? The cop was wrong. You can't go breaking people's hands. Black or white.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Simple question. Did the police officer arrest the guy after he hit him and broke his hand?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

441587fe232d918c3a4c8497d22aa156

all this just makes me wonder why anyone in their right mind would want to be a cop or is that what this discussion is about?

President Not Sure @ over 2 years ago

Plantation Palms, Land O' Lakes, FL 34639

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

so you don't believe this cops a count of what happened, but you believe the others.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Coralville, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

this 18 year veteran of the force says the guy told him he was going to beat him with his own baton. then approaches him to do it after he told him to leave.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Coralville, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

you don't believe him why

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Coralville, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

so. he's wrong and should be charged because he showed some sympathy. should have just shot him. then claimed he feared for his life. the guys hand was In his waist=band

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Coralville, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

you can't break people's hands, but you can shoot them. if you feel threatened. he said he did. should he have let him take his baton and nasty him with it

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Coralville, IA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Did the police officer arrest the guy after he hit him and broke his hand?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I just watched this clowns "interview". OMG! How embarrassing. Is this who you want to stand with? PTSD, tells 2 stories. Admits he did wrong. Doesn't know the law. Just a ####ing train wreck.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

plc will always side with the police unless the police do not side with the police in a particular instance, he is a man with an instruction manual.

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Not true. When the police are wrong, they're wrong. I've said it before. They're just not as wrong as often as people like you believe.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Recently the police officer in SC was wrong. From what I know. He was fired and charged. And I agree with that decision. So much for "Plc will always side with the police". Come better than that and stop trolling.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

You don't want to have a conversation. You want to convince people that you're right and they're wrong. But you're incapable. You come off as a childish know it all.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

admitted he did wrong. ptsd? tells two stories? are you talking about the video thinker posted?

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

his story doesn't quite line up huh. he just decided he was going to break someone's hand and there was no confrontation at all. is that what you are saying? so why no scrutiny when others stories don't line up.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

plc cant read

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

such as officer Wilson's account of. a recent interview of noticing the cigars, although he had no knowledge of the robbery?

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Did you watch his interview? I assumed you did. It's here. http://thefreethoughtproject.com/suspended-st-louis-officer-speaks-darren-wilson-department/

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

"he just decided he was going to break someone's hand and there was no confrontation at all"?????? Did anyone here say this? Anyone? Can you please keep with the conversation here? Stop adding what isnt here.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

In the video he admits to not following procedure. He admits that he suffers from PTSD. He says that guy told him he was homeless then says the guy told him he just got an apartment and a job.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

He says he thinks Officer Wilson committed murder 1. I can expect the uninformed like you and adam to say something so stupid. But not from a Police Officer who should know better. Who should know the law.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Unless, of course, he has an agenda.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

I'm curious about what plc thinks of the Denver cops deleting the video of them using excessive force. thank goodness for cloud backup

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Rochester, MN, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

He did have knowledge of the robbery before. You are basing your story on false media reports. Im sure you also believe he was shot in the back and on the ground and with his hands up. Even if the autopsy debunks that.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

There were many false stories reported. As is usually the case. So people like you pick and choose which to believe. Whatever fits your predisposition.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

It was also falsely reported that Officer Wilson had his eye socket broken. But I bet you wont go with that. I choose to go with whats been proven.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Mike Brown was a criminal. Proven

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Mike Brown had a physical altercation with Officer Wilson in the police vehicle. Proven

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Mike Brown was shot from the front. Proven

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Skal, I dont know anything about that. Do you have a link?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Disregard. I just saw it. I dont have a problem with what the police did.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

https://news.google.com/news/i/story?ncl=d4KLUjaEUxKxRFMIRAKECJI8T_49M&q=denver+cops+delete+video+cloud&lr=English&hl=en for everyone else

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Rochester, MN, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

I'm shocked.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Rochester, MN, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Sarcasm? I'm sorry. I saw the video and saw the police apprehending a drug dealer. His wife put herself in the altercation and has only herself to blame for her falling. Did I miss anything?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

When are you guys going to find real cases of abuse? Do I have to do it for you?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Abuse! http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/john-hytrek/

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Abuse! http://7online.com/archive/9440401/

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Abuse! http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/25/justice/south-carolina-trooper-shooting/

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Abuse! http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/dc-police-officer-guilty-of-assault-for-use-of-excessive-force-during-2011-arrest/2013/10/16/f8e08018-369f-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

I'm shocked you find nothing wrong with police deleting evidence. wait... no I'm not.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Rochester, MN, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

My favorite part is when they said they punched him in the face to prevent him from choking on the drugs. How thoughtful.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

stupid thing to do.But I can understand the concern over these videos. They allow people to sit back in the comfort of their homes and judge actions they can never understand. Police work is ugly. Just like life.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

A video of an incident tells very little of the whole situation.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

It only allows people like you to sit back and condemn something you'll never truly comprehend. forcing police to work politically correct is dangerous to everyone. But I'm not sure if you would understand.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

They punched him in the face to prevent him from swallowing the evidence. How thoughtful of you to be so concerned about the criminal. Im shocked. No, not really.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

"A society that makes war against its police had better learn to make friends with criminals" And this is exactly whats going on in the the black community. Unfortunate.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

I brought up no confrontation at all because in every other instance you give some reasoning for the cops to attack. no matter what. seems your issue with b this cop is after the fact he did not treat the guy harsh enough. that he didn't follow

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

procedure by being too soft and not charging him because he felt for the guys circumstances. I said was there no attack because you have consistently said even though the person is not armed they could take the officers weapon and use it against him

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

well, this cop says this guy told him that's exactly what he was going to do, then he approached him. thus cop should have just shot him dead and said he feared for his life, or beat him and charged him with getting blood on his baton. then all would

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

have been well.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5682762 he knew?

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

the police chief said he didnt.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/15/confirmed-officer-darren-wilson-did-know-mike-brown-was-suspect-in-robbery-and-did-see-stolen-cigars-in-his-hands-prior-to-attempting-questioning/ this one said he did. but I'm the one with misinformati

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

or is it conflicting stories. did the police chief lie. why the conflicting accounts. but no scrutiny on this.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/usanow/2014/08/15/ferguson-missouri-police-michael-brown-shooting/14098369/ conflicting stories in the same day. first he said he didn't know if and it was about the walking in the street. then he said he noticed

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

the cigars. no suspicion of that though, huh? why?

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

you do notice all of you "abuse" instances have the person cleared by video. that the people were charged and had there not been video the officer more than likely would have gotten away with it. you do notice their version of the events don't match

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

yet, an unarmed person gets killed, several witnesses (not just black ones) say with his hands up. but not one shred of doubt in your mind. police don't tell stories to make themselves look justified correct?

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

there are conflicting stories coming from the police themselves, yet you are positive things went as they said. in one case but not the other. interesting.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

should have just shot him, and said he rushed him. he feared for his life. I mean he did tell him he was going to be beat him to death with his own baton.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

He did know about the robbery before hand but that was not the reason he stopped the 2 men. He stopped them for walking in the middle of the street. Then he realized they May be involved in the robbery.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

The chief doesn't say Wilson didn't know he says that the initial contact at nothing to do with the robbery which is correct.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Gore didn't arrest the man because the man hadn't committed a crime. Struck a guy who hadn't committed a crime. That's a problem.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

They had a verbal disagreement. That's it. Didn't have to shoot him hit him beat him tase him. The man committed no crime. Gore seems to have flown off the handle. Common with PTSD.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I'm trying to cover all of your points. Did I miss anything?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

"you do notice all of you "abuse" instances have the person cleared by video." Not true.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

I don't need to be a police officer to know that destroying potentially damning evidence is a problem. what happens when civilians do the same?

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

in our system where it's the officer's word against the citizen, the officer usually wins. they have incentive to destroy any evidence that may counter their narrative.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

after the officer shouted camera, it seems like there is a protocol in place to destroy the evidence. that's wrong. and it's a wonder that complaints of excessive force drop after body cameras are implemented.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

I'm less concerned about the criminal in the Denver case then I am about your complacency with police destroying evidence and finding nothing wrong with it.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

police do great things and deserve our respect and gratitude. but they also shouldn't be given carte blanche. where there's smoke, there's fire.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

there's a difference between declaring war on police and demanding accountability. the act of destroying evidence creates an appearance of corruption and is only feeding the increasing demands for higher levels of accountability.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

So your primary concern is that they deleted the video not their actions, am I correct?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

yes

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Ok. I agree it was wrong and stupid.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

if it was an isolated occurrence, it'd be a non issue. it's not, and it only serves to increase police mistrust.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

It reminds me of a video that was posted here over year ago where the police chased a guy filming them into his home. That was stupid wrong and criminal.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

This is an isolated incident. The level of police mistrust existed before this occurred. The current level of police mistrust based on video only proves how ignorant the average civilian is when it comes to police action

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

destroying video and photo evidence gives the appearance of wrongdoing. the police in this case have only themselves to blame for this perception. and it's not isolated.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Downtown, Rochester, MN

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I agree. Except for the isolated part.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

nothing a little googling can't fix.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Downtown, Rochester, MN

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

It's rare.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Do you mean isolated as it's never happened before or isolated as it rarely happens? It would be silly to say it's never happened. It is very uncommon.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

rarity depends on how the denominator is framed.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Downtown, Rochester, MN

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

How many instances per how many police encounters per year.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

The last I found was 2012. Did you find anything more recent?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

inappropriately large denominator. encounters must include use of force numerator should include: deleted video/photos + cameras turned off/"malfunctioned"

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Downtown, Rochester, MN

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

denominator includes: all encounters with use of force and either body/dash cam present or civilian video/photo taken. this data doesn't exist... but fluffing the denominator by counting benign police encounters isn't a valid way to assess rarity

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Downtown, Rochester, MN

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

population affected ÷ population at risk. simple epidemiology

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Kutzky Park, Rochester, MN

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

^managed to get a division sign up there... Fancy fancy

The Drew @ over 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

hitting the symbol key twice is quite the feat, drew.

Tjaden Froyda @ over 2 years ago

Folwell, Rochester, MN 55902

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

÷hey what do ya know...

The Drew @ over 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Strange the way it's easier to get on the phone vs actual pc.

The Drew @ over 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

http://www.inquisitr.com/1642392/fbi-investigating-after-denver-police-beat-unarmed-man-trip-his-pregnant-girlfriend-attempt-to-delete-footage-filmed-by-bystander/

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2014/03/12/city-to-pay-250000-to-man-who-says-police-deleted-cellphone-video/

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

http://wivb.com/2014/04/29/man-who-recorded-alleged-police-brutality-says-he-was-told-to-delete-evidence/

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

http://www.copblock.org/39829/waukesha-police-sued-federal-court-beating/

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/25/cops-accused-of-forcing-woman-to-delete-video-of-husbands-arrest-sparked-by-unloaded-shotgun-and-trespasser-on-his-hunting-property-but-we-have-the-footage/

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130923220738AAi85QJ

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS-4sLReMSI

[412035] @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://youtu.be/EjOVz_xG4UE

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://youtu.be/yCDT5rS-5ws

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://youtu.be/79I7_vkwaeg

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://youtu.be/s0QJolKaqYk

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://www.wpr.org/green-bay-police-officer-exonerated-using-excessive-force-during-arrest

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://m.eonline.com/news/514260/do-you-live-in-the-most-miserable-state-if-you-live-in-west-virginia-the-answer-is-yes

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://www.nationaljournal.com/domesticpolicy/west-virginia-ranks-last-for-well-being-again-20140220

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101024222417AADhqoO

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/23/mixed-race-children-mental-health

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/30632584-452/who-likes-the-police-most.html#.VHz_j5Y8LCQ

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

A65883f45a009bb03df1abdb3586e698

Zemir Begic 

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ over 2 years ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

http://ringoffireradio.com/2014/08/michael-brown-paid-full-footage-shows/

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/21/darren-wilson-had-an-eye-bone-fracture-after-scuffle-with-michael-brown-family-friend-says/

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Can we just skip #### that's been disproven already?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Dude you are so transparent its ridiculous PLC your bias and pressumptive rhetoric can be labeled anything, but logic or truth. Your preconceptions are not looking at the "facts"

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

You know what facts are? Getthe####outtahere!

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Your facts or the facts? There is a difference.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

the only fact you know plc is what you think about the person.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

all the other #### is ancillary.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/wilson.asp this is why this is a waste of time.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

you accuse others of being blind and not seeing things. question minutia in any source. and yet continue to use one of the worst ones to try and discredit something.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

you like scopes well there it is.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

yes, please skip the sh!t that has been disproven.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

the reason I "run" from threads is this silliness.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

your stuff is as flawed if not more. but you file that as facts.

don Pappi @ over 2 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

LOL. I posted two stories that have long been disproven on purpose. To highlight thinkers post that has also been disproven. But I'm glad to hear you admit you run from threads.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

You should pay attention a little better. I've said several times that the story of his face been broken was a lie. Keep up.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

What have I posted that is flawed? All my posts are spot on. Spot on. Unlike you and thinkers garbage that I've slapped you around with. Now go run off again. You're embarassing yourself.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

john do they have zemir's killer in custody? are we almost certain that young will be in jail for the next quarter centrury?what was the point in mentioning him?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

PLC you make assertions and call them facts, and you outwardly label people with your own prejudices...

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Examples?

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

based my video how can you "assert" he struck out of anger?

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

That's just my opinion from what I've read. Where did I say it was based on your video? I based that OPINION on numerous articles on the case.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-county-cop-charged-with-assaulting-man-with-baton/article_267e68a7-8496-5663-8c81-a951172a904f.html?mobile_touch=true

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

After their verbal argument was over the officer "Charged at him from several yards away Nd struck him". Seems like anger to me.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/26213263/phoenix-police-officer-rescues-five-kittens-from-dumpster

Racer X @ over 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I'll bet none of the kittens were black.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/kansas-city-mo-police-officer-dances-in-the-street-with-local-kids

Racer X @ over 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/utah-killed-family-raped-wife-police-article-1.1858425

Racer X @ over 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

lol this is the same case, but with a little coloring. My question is why isn't gore given the benefit of the doubt? why isn't the police department standing by him? why are they willing to sail him up the river on an accusation? plenty of eye

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5797296

Racer X @ over 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5753280

Racer X @ over 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

of eye witnesses in the Mike Brown case yet people like you and the prosecutor still saw fit to side with brown.

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

brown = wilson

-the thinker @ over 2 years ago

Troy, MI, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

An investigation was conducted. It's not based on a mere accusation. There are many factors that at into this. Some we know. Some we don't. What we know doesn't look good for gore.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Mainly the fact that he didn't arrest him.

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

I'm holess

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ over 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

What about witness #40

Taco Bowl @ over 2 years ago

undefined

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/witness-in-michael-brown-case-raises-questions-about-grand-jury/article_4cf83e2e-5241-50ce-a3e5-0097eb9b31dc.html?mobile_touch=true they put"sic" in parenthesis instead of bracket so I doubt the

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ over 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

credibility

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ over 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Great news for Darren Wilson. Hopefully he can live his life in peace.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

8cbaf35ad0674762199a66cfbb03c55d

Not such great news for the FPD.

Mr. P @ about 2 years ago

Derby, CT, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

depends

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

undergarments

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Rose Hill, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

So "Hands up, don't shoot" was bullshít after all, or what.

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Yes, turns out Mike Brown made a series of stupid decisions. Some of the internal communication within the police department was pretty offensive though.

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Miramar, San Diego, CA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

No it wasn't. Just couldn't prove what his racist mindset was at the time Darren Wilson pull the trigger. To charge him with a federal civil rights violations crime. Ferguson PD has the same racist mentality of the PD Darren Wilson came

Bhaven87 @ about 2 years ago

Temple, TX, USA

201a1ee3da38651c237630b5fee3fafd

from that was shutdown for civil rights violations.

Bhaven87 @ about 2 years ago

Temple, TX, USA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

Mike Brown made a series of mistakes? I'd say all the humans involved there made a series of horrible mistakes (Mike included).

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Atwater Village, Los Angeles, CA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

it turns out that cops there were incentivised to ticket and arrest to provide income for the department. guess where the greatest amount of income is found? poor neighborhoods, because they can't afford representation, and they PAY THEIR FINES!

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Atwater Village, Los Angeles, CA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

setting race aside; fix this, and these kinds of incidents will be reduced significantly.

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Atwater Village, Los Angeles, CA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

how to fix it though? increase taxes? bake sales? PPA (Parent, Police Association)?

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Atwater Village, Los Angeles, CA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

UWater, what was Darren Wilson's mistake?

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Scripps Ranch, San Diego, CA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

not allowing Mike Brown to assault him?

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Scripps Ranch, San Diego, CA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Not asking politely for him to stop grabbing for his gun?

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Scripps Ranch, San Diego, CA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

I wasn't there, so won't comment on specifics. I was speaking generally about the the environments that led up to (and perhaps influenced) the outcomes.

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Northeast Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Jurors weren't there either, nether was Holder, or Obama or a bunch of other people who have recognized that Wilson acted in self defense

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Miramar, San Diego, CA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Mike Brown is not a martyr

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Miramar, San Diego, CA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kz2_oxv-SU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ about 2 years ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Seems like the case that the govt came up with was Mike Brown's shooting was justified *but* also (and these two things are not mutually exclusive) the Ferguson PD otherwise has serious issues

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

What's interesting is the credible witnesses (credible because their testimony matched forensics and they were consistent) basically corroborated what Wilson said. Those people were all afraid to come forward

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Eric Holder's investigation into Wilson basically comported with what the Grand Jury found.

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Page 82 onward. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/04/us/doj-report-on-shooting-of-michael-brown.html

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Let's summarize . Page 82 Shots fired at Wilson were in self-defense. P83- hands up, don't shoot never happened... Page 84- shooting justified... Page 85- federal law had requirements even further than if he wasn't justified (which he was)

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Midtown, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Page 86, this matter should be closed. The end

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Midtown, New York, NY

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

I honestly care a LOT less about that case, and more about the systemic problems, and their systemic solutions. You can fight about that all you want.

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I agree, just pushing back on this idea that the governments case was "Wilson is guilty, we just can't prove it" . That's not at all what was said.

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Murray Hill, New York, NY

441587fe232d918c3a4c8497d22aa156

I can't believe this doesn't happen where you live. I lived in the STL area most of my life and all of the PDs use tickets for a money grab. this is not exclusive to Ferguson. It goes back to the saying "crime doesn't pay "

President Not Sure @ about 2 years ago

Plantation Palms, Land O' Lakes, FL 34639

441587fe232d918c3a4c8497d22aa156

except now that means solving a real crime nets $0 for the town whereas tickets mean $$$.

President Not Sure @ about 2 years ago

Plantation Palms, Land O' Lakes, FL 34639

441587fe232d918c3a4c8497d22aa156

the less crime a town has means more POs for DWI checks, speedtraps, and other moving violations.

President Not Sure @ about 2 years ago

Plantation Palms, Land O' Lakes, FL 34639

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Actually, solving real crime nets a lot more $$ than do tickets. Its just not as direct. The social implications of not solving real crime translates into real $$.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Everything reported regarding the FPD could be said for every department around the country if not the world. The public doesn't understand the politics of policing nor the ugly side of keeping communities safe.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

441587fe232d918c3a4c8497d22aa156

well since the cops in NYC backed off gun violence has gone up.

President Not Sure @ about 2 years ago

Plantation Palms, Land O' Lakes, FL 34639

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

can you describe the ugly side of keeping communities safe...for those of us unfamiliar with it?

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

can we handle the truth?

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

are you suggesting that every police department in the world is racist?

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Tucker, GA 30084, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Well in Georgia, yes

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Miramar, San Diego, CA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I suggest that you can find racists in every organization.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

And no, you can't handle the truth.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

its ugly, rude, it curses and is sometimes violent. but necessary.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

you suggest that you can find racism in every organization in the world...or every police organization?

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Norcross, GA 30093, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

is this racism in police organizations necessary?

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Norcross, GA 30093, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Every organization period. Is racism anywhere necessary?

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

I think it's elitist to think the public can't handle the truth. to me, that's just a copout for "this is how we've always done it, and we don't wanna change."

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Marina, San Diego, CA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

elitist? LOL Whats the opposite of elitist? It's tough dirty work. The reality isn't shown on law & order. Reality is not easy to transfer. Personal experience cant be easily explained.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

You can listen to story after story from Grandpa or Uncle Joe about how it was in "the war" but you'll never be able to understand unless you experience it.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Obviously the public is capable of understanding. Look at the garner protests. The Ferguson riots. Those are examples of the naive public not understanding how things work.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

You want change? Throw on a uniform and change it. The peanut gallery gets very little actual input into change. To change you need those with real life experience to change it. Not those who've never held a gun.

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

"In his 1945 "Notes on Nationalism", Orwell wrote that pacifists cannot accept the statement "Those who 'abjure' violence can do so only because others are committing violence on their behalf.""

Taco Bowl @ about 2 years ago

undefined

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

what does "those who've never held a gun" mean to you in relation to making changes. those in uniform really just enforce change, don't they?

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Marina, San Diego, CA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

And managing hedge funds is also a dirty business. people who haven't been there can't really comment on the corruption that exists within the profession. It's necessary.

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

Unless you're willing to roll down your sleeves, and put on a necktie...you can't do anything about it. It's just the nature of things.

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

That's a logical argument.

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

what's brilliant about it, is that you dismiss your opponents argument while simultaneously diminishing its value...all without having to actually defend your own position.

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

well played

Racer X @ about 2 years ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

So racist cops are ok because there are racists...around in general? Seems to me that ferreting out racism is far more important in some organizations than others. The most important of these would be organizations that have actual power and

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

authority over the general public. In my opinion.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Racists running Wal-Mart? Don't shop there. Racists running your local police force? Ummm...Don't....what, allow you're kitty to get stuck in a tree, have a noise complaint, have someone break into your house...if you are black?

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

The government has a duty to serve all its citizens. All of them with equal protection. It's not ok to simply accept that there is racism in such an organization.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I wonder if the people who are concerned about these things will retire the bullshít chant that is "hands up, don't shoot".

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

How many cops in Ferguson were confirmed to be involved in activities that could be perceived as racist?

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Drew, thanks for thinking deeply about this

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/us/ferguson-justice-department-report-fallout/ ami I think the summary of statistics here is representative. I don't think the report gets to that statistic. The pervasive atmosphere here is pretty undeniable though.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

The percentages would imply a greater focus on policing the black community. I would guess actual crimes being committed are fairly equal between races there as they have similar socioeconomic situations.

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

We have to be honest on all fronts here. Children of all races should see police work as a career meant to truly serve and protect. Too many simply see them as hired goons for the municipality. The mafia.

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

Outright lies are very harmful as well "hands up, don't shoot". Until both sides can be honest about their role in the situation, nothing will change.

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Not to mention continuing to chant "Hands up, Don't shoot" (since everyone knows it's a lie) is a bit of a distraction from the other concerns.

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Also the summary of statistics isn't as helpful as you think, victimization surveys show crimes aren't committed at the same rates in different groups. I'd like to see more of a comparison with that.

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I believe the report is available for download in pdf...I'm guessing there are deeper stats in there but reporters generally don't take any math after high school. lol

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Yeah I'm pretty sure you're correct. The report itself has to go further to establish those conclusions than simply comparing demographics to arrests/stops %.

The Drew @ about 2 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

math ain't sexay, yo!

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

I'm totally turned on by chicks who can add they're very rare

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ about 2 years ago

Streetsboro, OH, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

does differential equations do anything for you? How about quantum mechanics?

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I got an eigenfunction for ya pink

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

and I have 5 inches for you

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ about 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

been taking Extenze?

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Naperville, IL, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

He must have been, that's like double what he said back in the olden days.

Dr. Evil @ about 2 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

0eda15e8a4a685a0722949782c90e863

good for him

AMi @ about 2 years ago

Naperville, IL, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

:-)

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ about 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

your life HAS improved under Obama, Pink!

UndrWater @ about 2 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

due to my efforts my life has improved during the Obama administration. I was hoping that butt slammer would necessarily make energy rates skyrocket like he promised

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ about 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

But I truly believe he's a bad person and very incompetent but due to the color of his skin he still in there . he's a bad man and Hillary is tainted goods she's probably going to bring more fundamental changes than this guy ever thought

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ about 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Can you imagine if any of the bush first ladies said they were never proud, truly proud of their country until her husband was elected president? These are very bad times

YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED! @ about 2 years ago

Strongsville, OH, USA

Stats

  • Like
    3
  • Dislike
    2
  • Comment
    306

Location

Detroit, MI, USA