Good ol' Rev Al. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHWRpsMEmk
@ almost 3 years ago
New York, NY 10016, USA
Gotta love Al. He's America's crazy old uncle, black version. Biden is the white version. Brothers of a different mother.
Maybe Biden will run in 2016... and put Al on the ticket! Now that would be awesome. Think of the laughs
@ over 2 years ago
Lakeland, MN, USA
Al has come to be embraced by loads of Democrats which is pretty fcked up considering his history. Not to mention his huge pull with my mayor.
@ over 2 years ago
AL had been embraced? by who. he has finished no higher than 5th anytime he has run for anything. the media has embraced al. that's it. he makes good t.v.
@ over 2 years ago
West Lucas, IA, USA
By whom? By everyone who went to his fckin birthday party and by my mayor.
The guy used to be absolutely toxic for mainstream democrats.
It's not just the media, Don. You couldn't be more off.
JOE and Al, hahaha.... Don't put it pass the liberals to do something that horrible to America.
John Galt... Bernie Is A Socialist
@ over 2 years ago
North Olmsted, OH, USA
I hate Al, he's a fake and not a real liberal
@ over 2 years ago
Chattanooga, TN 37421, USA
There was another thread where Don was saying how Al wasn't a black leader and I said he most certainly is considered a black leader here in NYC.
the people at his birthday party! what the f. just cause you wish the guy happy birthday doesn't mean you back him.
AL gets the camera to follow him period.
of you want your story to go national, get al.
is no coincidence al can't even get the majority of the black vote when he runs. he's a useful idiot. you say he's a leader in ny. had he ever held any office in ny. hell no.
You don't understand Don. You don't have to hold office in order to be a political force.
And also what response do you have regarding De Blasio?
the camera follows al, and that's about it.
Why's De Blasio always consulting with Al?
Why's Al at the roundtable for police discussions, Don?
seven different articles about the exact same thing drew. with the same exact title. all about one man giving al clout. come on drew.
Why was Sharpton's aide named Chief of Staff for DeBlasio's wife, Don.
AL has no pull or clout. he's a media whore who Imo is only relevant to put a bad face on blacks as a whole. the camera follows him and jesse like they speak for black people when far more intelligent, and purposeful blacks are out there speaking.
drew you might (maybe) be able to name one other black voice outside al jesse, but I bet no one else here can. they are out there, they just get no play. the media would rather act as if al and jesse say it all. pathetic
You're blind if you think that, Don.
really drew? AL makes his opinions very known. what is the last AL Sharpton opinion\issue to actually turn into law or policy? AL is the face of placation.
I'm not blind, I look at the entire picture. al sits at the table, everyone nods and shakes their heads, then totally dismiss everything he says as soon as he stops talking.
So why hire his aid for chief of staff for your wife? Then refuse to fire that lady when it turns out she's lying about her criminal boyfriend?
sad thing is a lot of what he says is on point, but they crazy off the wall, self defeating and glorifying crap he spews destroys all of that.
Al has an inside track with De Blasio, far, far more than with any other mayor we've had. Yes, he's been embraced and pols who'd never have set foot near him before rush to sing praises.
the fact that you and probably most others here think al has any clout at all is horrible. like I said. he and jesse get all the play to the detriment of the people the are suppose to be speaking for. I bet you agree with that. I bet most people you
talk to agree with that. al and jesse are bad for black folks. yet any black issue they get run out there in front of the camera. you ever wonder why? I do.
You act like Al is some kinda hologram Fox uses to make fun of black people lol.
I understand both men are embarrassments so you try to disown them, hey they exist and people *do* support them.
And that's probably more so the case locally than nationally. I dunno about Jesse but with Al it definitely is.
With DeBlasio, it's not placation simply because of how much the mayor owes (or certainly thinks he owes) Rev Al for his election.
not just fox. all media. im.not sure why. maybe it's just laziness and al is the go to guy. not sure. im.not a conspiracy theorist so I won't go there.
however, don't you think it's odd when the "black spokesman" runs for anything he can't get the majority of the black vote against white guys? hmmmmm
who here would say al is good for black folks? don't these two things at least make you wonder why he keeps getting run out there like he speaks for black folks?
By the way, I'm mostly talkin about the primary election with Bill. That's where Al's support actually mattered.
Black folks around the country aren't all the same, at least that's what I thought. Al is much more of a joke nationally than here locally, that's all I'm saying
But even nationally man.... http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/nyregion/a-slimmed-down-sharpton-savors-an-expanded-profile.html?referrer=
Civil Rights Leader of Choice for the White House was the quote in there. Lol.
isn't that odd to you drew? that someone actually wrote that. when both times he ran he didn't get the majority of the black vote. something is not adding up.
as far as not all being the same you are absolutely correct. which is what angers me so much about al and jesse being the only ones who's voice is being heard.
to most whites how they think I s how blacks think.
and yes I am purposely lumping whites together. I almost said all.
So in order for it to add up, Al must have gotten the majority of the black vote when he ran for office years ago. Otherwise, it doesn't add up.
Now you're just being dishonest.
It's like a massive conspiracy of white journalists who are overstating the role of Al Sharpton.
NY Times, Politico, Fox, WSJ Washington Post, they are all doing it. It's really rotten ya know to besmirch black people like that.
How is it dishonest. if al and jesse are the "spokesmen" for blacks, as they are made out to be, with the fact that blacks largely vote in 85 to 90% blocks, you would think they could get the majority of black votes
if the really are the black leaders and spokesmen they are made out to be. if the majority of blacks actually agreed with them.
like I said, I won't go so far as to call it a conspiracy. maybe it's just laziness. can you explain to me how that adds up.
and he has run 3 times and never gotten the majority.
So in order for you to be a leader, you need the majority of the black vote from like 2004?
if he ran again he still wouldn't. just cause he ain't fat no more don't change nothing.
First of all, note the date. Second of all, what's this weird requirement of a majority, third of all people tend to vote strategically, they knew he had no chance in hell.
1. note the date? 2. he is made out to be a leader, and a spokesman. if he is those things to a group of people who traditionally vote in high percentages I believe he should be able to get the majority. 3. he has no chance in hell because he's
not what he is made out to be.
#2 is a requirement because that's the face he has been given. it's the platform he has been given by the media for reasons I can't explain.
it isn't odd to you the amount of press he is givin?
in order to be what he is being made out as, yes he absolutely should be able to get the majority.
People who vote, they vote strategically. We don't have preference voting in this country, so it's possible that if you vote for your true preference, you spoil your vote and help a candidate that you really don't like.
drew. he has no clout. that is obvious. everyone knows it. it is a slap in the face of black to continue to act like he represents them.
#2 is bull####. You're looking at voting results from years past, with all the issues I noted, you're looking at it nationally, and all a leader needs is a decent following, not some massive majority.
aside from the voting can you ates my other points. is he bad for blacks? can you name other black voices outside his and jesse. why?
all these years past he was propped up too. he has never been what he is made out to be.
a lot of people have a following. none of them.get the type of attention al gets on all race matters. what is disturbing is he gets the attention for a skewed view that is only followed by the most ignorant among us
the press can kill two birds with one stone with an ignorant ass comment from the crowd too.
Yeah and if it were merely the media giving him that attention, you'd have a point.... But it isn't.
He used to be so much more toxic. He certainly wouldn't be with the mayor, he wouldn't be anywhere near the white house, and he wouldn't have his own show. Regular politicians wouldn't go near him. But now he's getting all that and more.
the rest keep him around for the media attention. I don't know enough about the ny mayor to understand what's going on with that. but you don't see politicians running around backing al's views.
I found this Don. Does he need a majority? Nope, I think that plurality will do him just fine. http://thegrio.com/2013/03/28/black-america-doesnt-lack-leaders/
maybe they are drinking the Kool aid to about al having some day with blacks.
al didn't like Obama. look how that worked out.
some say with blacks
the leading answer was none by a large margin. the one and only reason al was second at 24% was because of what I have been pointing out this whole time. name recognition.
there are many black movers and shakers that should be at a minimum worked in with al when it comes to these issues as to not make it seem as if al's opinion is the black opinion.
see if you can find a poll of how many whites think al speaks for blacks. bet that's over 50%
Assuming that's a legit sample (the poll), that'd seem to imply over 10 million US blacks claim Al "speaks for them" whatever that means.
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@ over 2 years ago
Plantation Palms, Land O' Lakes, FL 34639
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your welcome pappi
but I do agree with drew
No wonder you're embarrassed lol.
I do love when they get booed off though.
pns. what do you agree with drew about? he is a spokeman, and a leader. if that is the case you both prove my point.
the fact that I'm arguing this with you proves my point.
are al and jesse good for black. either personally, or in the view of other races? the answer is a resounding no. yet they keep getting run out there like they are.
Just wish him away man. Just wish him away
also drew I see that site is affiliated with bet. if that is a bet poll that's where you got your 24%. ignorant idiots
I agree his is made out to be a leader but I don't think any person of any color thinks he is. it has come to the point that msnbc thinks they are helping by giving him a platform all the while laughing at him IMO
What's fcked up about Al is that the whole Tawanna Brawley thing was what catapulted him to fame. When it completely fell apart, the fact he didn't back down *helped* him.
drew that chump was around way before brawley. jesse was just the one getting more run before then. both are basically the same guy.
pns. it's not just msnbc giving him a platform. they are giving him the largest one with a show, but they all five him a platform.
drew it helped him with who? it helped him keep a camera in his face. it helped him take jesse place as the black go to guy. but that is my point. why? it's like they want all blacks to look as petty as him.
it is the media's #1 job to get ratings so I get that ignorance, and conflict sell. it's just too bad that ultimately that's the only message that gets out on the black end of things.
I don't know about anyone else but I have a hard time believing anything he says
but I feel that way about all politicians or so called leaders
People who want to be in the public eye, want our attention, want people to listen to them, and for whatever reason can GET all of that are our leaders.
@ over 2 years ago
Cerritos, CA 90703, USA
We're stuck with that paradigm for now.
Sharpton was a nobody before Brawley.