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It is ______ to carry a weapon of any kind, even if it is for self-defence A) your responsibility B) your right C) a criminal offence

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

Comments (286)

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Offence? Are you asking if it's illegal in a land speaking the Queen's English? Or do you mean offense?

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Naperville, IL 60540, USA

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Ah AMI you caught me. Yeah, that's a question on the UK citizenship test. Knowing that, what do you think the answer is now?

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

Carnegie Hill, New York, NY

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I would guess C, only bobbies are allowed to have them

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Naperville, IL 60540, USA

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Yeah C big time.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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It's illegal in Malaysia too but you'd be insane not to have something on you.

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Naperville, IL 60540, USA

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D) a loaded question with weasel words.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

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Hey, I wasn't the one who put it on the citizenship test lol.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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when I was 16 my uncle asked me "was jesus insane, a liar or god?" its the first thing I thought about when I read this question.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

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How exactly?

Kzoo @ almost 3 years ago

Schoolcraft, MI 49087, USA

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C.S. Lewis'...liar lunitic or lord?

Silverfox @ almost 3 years ago

Arbutus, MD, USA

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The Jesus question is valid

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Buford, GA 30519, USA

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err lunatic

Silverfox @ almost 3 years ago

Arbutus, MD, USA

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not liar, from everything I've heard...you aren't a liar if you truly believe a lie, after all.

Dr. Evil @ almost 3 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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yeah I don't think most people would settle on that one either

Silverfox @ almost 3 years ago

Arbutus, MD, USA

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A, B, and C...... Depending on who you are.

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ almost 3 years ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

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D. For the most part, unnecessary

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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PLC is right

Dr. Evil @ almost 3 years ago

Arden Hills, MN, USA

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...unless there is a zombie apocalypse, in which case you better strap that gun to your hand so you don't drop it.

Dr. Evil @ almost 3 years ago

Arden Hills, MN, USA

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What bout the other part...when it's necessary?

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Midtown, Atlanta, GA

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The way it's worded, unnecessary. Never necessary to "carry a weapon of any kind". Narrow it down and I would say A and B.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Schenectady, NY , United States

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People keep thinking "gun". But it says weapon of any kind, which means basically anything. If the cops are convinced you are planning on using it as a weapon, you're in trouble.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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Anything that can only be used as a weapon, including pepper spray is banned outright.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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It's never necessary to carry a weapon of any kind? i strongly disagree

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Tucker, GA, USA

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It depends where you're spending the day

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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What good is owning a weapon and leaving it at home? It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not having it.

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ almost 3 years ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

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UK version "self-defence spray". It'll help the police ID the guy *after* he rapes someone. http://www.crimepreventionproducts.co.uk/personal-alarms/uv-personal-attack-defence-spray-made-by-mace

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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A bullet through the skull usually allows quick identification of the rapist as well

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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im realing leaning towards this guy being ai.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

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He's an absolute turd. I couldn't give a fück less whether he's a spoofer or not.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Jefferson, GA, USA

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They both have a penchant for intentionally inflammatory commentary

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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On this test do they lock you up or send you for reconditioning if you answer A or B?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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how did spoofer get 4 points if the points are broken? Old spoofing account?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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welcome back!

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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well thank you.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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the correct answer is B of course.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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Govt doesn't grant this right either.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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Fear not plc, NY still ranks dead last for gun rights according to GnA. http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/culture-politics-network/best-states-for-gun-owners-2014/

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Jersey City, NJ 07310, USA

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OMG! Then it must be one of the most dangerous states when it comes to gun violence, correct? I'll help you out. It's one of the safest. Imagine that?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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I don't know if that has to do with gun rights or lack of them. NYC for example hasn't changed any of our strict laws about it from when things were dangerous here. Yet it's gotten a lot safer.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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1990 NYC had 2,605 murders. 2013 it had 334. I don't think gun laws were any less strict in 1990.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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The State of NY is middle of the pack when it comes to overall violent crime

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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The fact is that crime is less related to gun laws than either side would like to believe. Culture and economic conditions play a bigger role than gun laws.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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Given all other factors unchanged, guns in the hands of law abiding citizens does reduce crime in my opinion.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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Stats are irrelevant anyway. Self defense is a natural right. You cannot effectively exercise that right without firearms when faced with armed criminals.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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But we're talking gun violence. NY is one of the safest states when it comes to gun violence.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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Stats are only irrelevant when they destroy your argument.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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https://www.vpc.org/fadeathchart14.htm

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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Actually no, we're talking gun rights. My post directed at you had to do with gun rights in the state of New York and the fact that it comes in dead last. You are talking crime.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Historic Downtown, Jersey City, NJ

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Crime and corresponding statistics has no relevance when it comes to the OP which has to do with gun rights. The answer is still B

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Journal Square, Jersey City, NJ

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The state of New York tyrannically oppresses its citizens. That is not something of which should be proud.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Jersey City, NJ 07306, USA

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Where are the frickin chicks anymore? As this app closes out it won't be forgotten it will be remembered as Homo map we should blow each other

Mr. Pink @ almost 3 years ago

Strongsville, OH 44136, USA

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That's what guys do in prison, they blow each other and bang each other in the ass then lift weights.. Very very very .....contradictory

Mr. Pink @ almost 3 years ago

Strongsville, OH 44136, USA

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Dont be a drama queen. The stricter gun laws are keeping the citizens safer. From gun violence. There is no need for joe schmo to carry a .50 cal. None. You believe the correct answer is B. I disagree. Most gun laws work

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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Nothing is 100% perfect. But the states with the stricter gun laws tend to have less gun violence. The states with the more lenient gun laws tend to have more gun violence. The same goes for at the countries.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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Isn't overall violence what really matters?

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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We don't need a society where everyone is armed and we dont need a society where nobody is armed. Sensible laws to meet in the middle. Safeguards. The decent folk can own. the POSs can't. Simple.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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Overall violence is too broad when discussing gun possession and laws.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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And the effects thereof

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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Sure, but perhaps we are missing the forest here?

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Not when the topic is trees.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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Black males

Mr. Pink @ almost 3 years ago

Strongsville, OH 44136, USA

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I like your answer even though I disagree with the depth of your position

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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If you want to discuss overall crime, fine. We can discuss that. With gun violence being a part of that conversation. But when discussing the gun culture and the ramifications of lax gun control, looking at the broad

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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statistics of violence dilutes the topic at hand. What does rape have to do with gun laws? What does a husband beating his wife have to do with gun laws? Nothing. Unless you're trying to dilute an opposing view.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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We are talking about the ease of ability to carry a firearm and what harm carrying or not carrying can do to a society as a whole.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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Giuliani definitely fixed a lot of our crime problem, hats off to that guy.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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Hopefully the groundhog killer won't mess up that legacy.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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You're talking in nonsensical baseless generalities. What defines the "ease of the ability to carry a firearm" for law abiding citizens more than a states willingness to issue concealed carry licenses? 5 states in this nation have no license

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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requirement whatsoever, 37 are will-issue while the remaining 8 are may-issue (effectively no issue in reality). So 42 states allow anyone with a clean background who wishes to carry a firearm in public to do so. Is there a huge disparity in gun

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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crime between those 42 states and the 8 that heavily restrict ccws? No. Some of the worst places are in those 8 states like Camden NJ.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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The idea that gun control keeps people safer is entirely based on fallacies. Gun control creates victims. Like Amanda Collins - a concealed carry holder who left her firearm home because Colorado doesn't allow carry on college campuses - because this

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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makes colleges safer don't you know. She was brutally raped on campus in a parking garage 50 ft from the security office. There are countless examples like this. Forgive me for sounding cliche but criminals don't follow the law. It really is as

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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simple as that.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Next thing you know you are going to tell us that drug laws keep drugs off the street! :)

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Yeah states with May issue laws have less gun violence than states with shall issue laws. I'm sure it's just coincidence. I'm sure it is. Must be. I mean, you say it's unrelated so it must be. We all know ur never wrong.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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LMAO

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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After all. Amanda was brutally attacked. We all know that's never happened in any shall issue state ever. Ever! That's pretty solid proof you have there. Facts are facts. No armed person has ever been attacked.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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Shall issue states are crime free havens. Facts! The more guns the safer everyone is. These other countries with heavily restricted gun ownership have much higher gun crime. Because criminals don't follow the law there

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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Wait! That might not be entirely true. Actually. That's all not true at all. The states with lax gun laws have higher gun violence #s.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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As a matter of fact even the less gun crime in stricter gun law states are attributed to lax gun law states.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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But like you said. Statistics don't matter. They're slaughtering your paper thin argument. They can't matter. Not to you.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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What are you going to say next? That cocaine and heroin use is worse today than it was in the 70s? LMAO

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

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That example actually was in a shall issue state, but one that chooses to restrict where you can carry.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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She was raped BECAUSE the colorodo legislature believed the same nonsense that you do and decided to disallow carry on college campuses, thereby leaving her unable to defend herself.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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You didn't even bother to Google her name. You just made assumptions like you are about gun crime being lower in no issue states.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Same with drug usage. You conclude its lower because of laws and completely discount other factors because that assumption supports the point of view you are pushing. Cultural changes have nothing to do with it? Is it lower because laws have made

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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it so hard to get because they are so effective? Bahahhaha. That's a joke. You and I both know that if you want it we can get it. That's a fact.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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If you really believe such a disparity exists between those 42 and 8 statesthen show me the money. show me the statistics that back your position

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Columbia, NJ 07832, USA

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She was raped because a savage decided to rape her. Not because that college decided to not allow guns.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

, , United States

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I already provided the link that shows this. Did you miss it? Scroll up. You'll find it.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

, , United States

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You're angry for no reason. Relax. Stop misrepresenting my position. Stop being so emotional. Look at the facts. Look at the chart and see where the May carry states rank. Bottom 10. All but 1 I believe.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

, , United States

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focus boy, focus! Guns here. Guns. Not drugs. I've already spanked you on that over and over again. Guns here. Drugs later. Focus.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

, , United States

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more guns doesn't = less gun violence. You may wish it did but the stats prove you wrong. The stats that don't matter to you. Cause they prove you wrong. You're too emotional. Take it easy.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

, , United States

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I see your tactics haven't changed lol. Do not mistake passion for anger, you are not capable of making me angry. Not once in all the years on this app have you done so. I could no more be angry at you than I could at a rabid dog for biting someone.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Downtown Jersey City, Jersey City, NJ

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hehe. I understand when you take an anti liberty positions, you cannot help it and that's okay. :)

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Downtown Jersey City, Jersey City, NJ

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I did miss your link but that's ok, looking at it I do see that it is from a left-wing anti-gun website and that it does nothing to link legal firearm ownership and carrying in public to the rates that it claims. You would need to post the stats

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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related only to legal gun ownership and crime to make the case you were trying to make. Let us not pretend that these groups whether pro or anti gun start out with data and attempt to shoehorn that data into fitting their argument and supporting

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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their position. For every anti gun link that you post I could post one pro gun with statistics that support the opposite. http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/tag/more-guns-less-crime/

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Downtown Jersey City, Jersey City, NJ

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Now in the Colorado case you are correct that the perpetrator of the crime is ultimately responsible for it, but the state bears some of that burden as well... not the college, it was the state which banned guns on college campuses. If the state had

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Downtown Jersey City, Jersey City, NJ

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not prevented this woman from carrying her firearm on campus, she would not have been raped that day. Undeniable.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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Do you recognize the existence of unalienable natural rights? Is self defense not one of those rights?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Downtown Jersey City, Jersey City, NJ

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The person who quotes GnA as a source now complains about a source. Classic!

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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My tactics wont change either. I return the respect that I am given. For better or for worse. But thats irrelevant. You do come off as an angry individual. Whether you are or not.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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I am pro gun. I own guns myself and encourage others to do so as well. I just dont support irresponsible gun ownership. Nor should the government. I support reasonable gun laws. Reasonable restrictions.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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No matter the source, the fact is that gun violence is lower in may issue states than in shall issue states. Period. If you want to squint in the dark to look for what you're looking for, knock yourself out.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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And to assume that that young lady wouldnt have been victimized had she been allowed to carry her gun is laughable. Should I post the numerous incidents of law enforcement having their guns taken from them and killed?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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A source for state rankings for gun freedoms, not statistics. There is a difference and your failure to recognize that is not surprising. Are you suggesting that their rankings are not accurate? Would you prefer a better source for rankings? Does NY

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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not belong on the bottom of that list?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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There is nothing here laughable about this case. This is not an assumption but rather is based on victims account is the incident and her own words as a matter of fact.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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go on YouTube and listen to it for yourself

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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I fail to see how you are pro gun. Do you support NY converting to a will issue state? Firearms cannot be used for self defense outside of the home if you are not allowed to take them with you when you leave your home. Or are you just pro gun in

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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own home?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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Do you recognize the existence of unalienable rights and is self defense not one of those rights?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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The assumption that her carrying a gun would have prevented anything is laughable. Your thought that a gun on her would have guaranteed her not getting raped. Your thought process, not the incident, is laughable.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

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I thinks states should go to whatever laws lower gun violence. The facts show that the harder it is to get a gun, the safer the populace is. Short of an all out ban. I think any law abiding, mentally healthy adult

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

should be able to purchase and carry a handgun, hunting rifle or shotgun. I never see a need to own a .50 cal. Never. IMO

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I don't see self defense by means of carrying any weapon as an unalienable right, no.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

In NY Firearms may be used for self defense outside the home.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Looks like yet ANOTHER school shooting today. In a shall issue state. Yup.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

New yorkers cannot take their firearms outside their property for reasons of self defense, so how does that works exactly?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

And again - not an assumption. These are the words of the victim herself - an experienced ccw holder. You know better than she regarding the likelihood that a firearm in her possession would have prevented this? A little presumptuous, no? lol

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Just realistic

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Trained police officers have had their guns taken from them. People trained to prevent that exact thing.Unfortunately it happens. To say that she would have been able to prevent it guaranteed is presumptuous.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Im not saying it would of or wouldnt of. Neither is an "undeniable" fact. Either is possible.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

New Yorkers CAN obtain a concealed carry license. You do know this, don't you? I mean, you've been speaking like you KNOW but in reality you don't. I can't say I'm surprised.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

The process is a joke in NYC. You have ZERO chance of being approved unless you are politically connected. You do know this, don't you?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

Are you saying the approvals outside the city are likely to go through?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

LMMFAO! You were talking about NYC (no you werent) all along! That's funny! I thought we were discussing state (we were) laws. Theres a difference between New York and New York City.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Both links provided discussed state laws. The whole conversation was about state laws. Why try to change the discussion now when you're getting your head bashed in? Wait, I just answered my own question.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Approvals outside of NYC go through a lot easier than in NYC. But, you already knew all of this, didn't you? Maybe not. Sorry. Let me know if you have any questions. I'm here to help.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

Sorry I dropped off. Things got crazy at work. So no I'm not talking about the city although it is the epitome of what is wrong with NY gun laws.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

You are misrepresenting the state law. You cannot get one unless you prove you have a special need for one. How many people so you know that have one? Zero is my bet.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

This policy becomes a tool for govt to deny licenses because of their political agendas.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

Look at the total number of licenses issued by the state and tell me that's not true.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

So it seems, since you believe that any law abiding mentally healthy adult should be able to purchase and carry a firearm, that you must find NY law to be unreasonable and oppressive. The very definition of a will-issue state is exactly what you have

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

described as your belief. So why are you defending oppressive laws in no-issue/may-issue states?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

441587fe232d918c3a4c8497d22aa156

http://on.ksdk.com/1tUMSOg

President Not Sure @ almost 3 years ago

Plantation Palms Blvd, Land O Lakes, FL 34639

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

I love to see expansion of recognized rights like that. I say recognized because it is not a right that govt grants.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

NY has no constitutional recognition of the right to keep and bear arms. Neither does NJ not surprisingly the two states on the bottom of the list.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

441587fe232d918c3a4c8497d22aa156

yeah that made me homesick

President Not Sure @ almost 3 years ago

Plantation Palms, Land O' Lakes, FL 34639

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Wait, what?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

You're totally off on carry permits in NY. I know MANY who have it. You're being led by bad info. It's not easy to get a gun or a concealed carry license. Nor should it be. IMO.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

How do you know if they're law abiding and mentally healthy if you adamantly oppose background checks? How is it that NY is much safer than most states when it comes to gun violence?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

By your thinking NY should lead the nation in gun violence. NYC should be the least safe big city in the country instead of the safest big city like it is. Maybe your "more guns=less crime" rhetoric is wrong.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Unless you discount statistics and judge on what "they" say and on emotional thinking.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

When NYC was having serious crime problems, 80s and early 90s, the gun laws weren't less strict than now.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Actually they were less strict than now. Add that since the 90s, the laws have been enforced a lot better. Also keep in mind that most guns used in NY crimes originate from other states.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

Warwick, NY 10990, United States

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

so criminals can get weapons in NYC, but not normal citizens? . kind of proves the point, doesn't it, ban/restrict firearms only the bad have them. .

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

We're discussing State laws. I think NYCs gun restrictions are too tough. We agree there. The issue is State law, which I personally agree with.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

BUT that being said, NYC with it's tough gun restrictions is still the safest large city in America.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

So it actually disproves your point.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

nope, it can be safe(ish), and only the bad have firearms & use the. . the ban on hatchets coming next?

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Huh?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

What can be "safe(ish)"?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

gun crimes vs non gun committed crimes. .. stabbing strangulation violent rape burglary robbery hatchet attacks etc.. . guns used by criminals vs citizens in self defense .

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

if i were to own a gun, it would be 4 times more likely to shoot someone i love and not someone who is trying to harm me.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

but that's handguns, there is no real danger from assault rifles, those are kept by looneytoons that just really like to look at them on the wall and shoot targets with the rest of their aryan nations buddies.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

thats oversimplifying, but i find plcs position to be odd, backround checks don't prevent lunatics and criminals from obtaining the guns, they can easily just get someone to get it for them.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

maybe arlington and h20 are nuts and theyre going to end up shooting a black kid in a dark alley one day but i fail to see where gun control reduces the ability for "bad guys" to get guns.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

you point to new York, but a lot of things happened in new York at the same time, the whole city changed at the same time, maybe the drug dealing stopping reduced your gun crime, maybe cleaning up time square did it.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

The SAFE law I think turned a lot of upstaters off because of how it got rushed through so quickly.

The Drew @ almost 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

maybe gun laws did not do as much as you think if the whole culture changed at the same time as other things. if this were true Chicago and dc would also go down.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

i definitely do not believe that gun laws increase crime, thats the position of a madman. when racer says stuff like that he doesn't realize that gun laws came because of the crime, not the other way around.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

i think both sides are wrong on this.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I have two assault rifles. Not so looney tunes. What's the problem with those? Believe me, if they became the weapon of choice, you'd be happy you had one.

Dr. Evil @ almost 3 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

We keep those for the same reason we keep MREs, sutures, water, etc. etc. stockpiled: in case we need it. I think you're crazy NOT to be prepared.

Dr. Evil @ almost 3 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

sorry, if you think its crazy to not be prepared for a zombie invasion or nuclear holocaust then you are a looney toon.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

Nope, I keep my rifles & handguns to protect my family & property, mainly from thieves & looneytoons. (mainly Aryans & illegals). . Unlike you, Adam, I actually know how to use them safely, & select proper targets. .

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

I've taught my family the same. . Keeping a bit of stockpile of supplies for a natural disaster ( tornado, hurricane, blizzard, etc) isn't really ignorant, just prepared. .

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

If being prepared to protect your family & property makes a person looney, than I'm proud to be a bit crazy. .

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

There is no need for you to be ready for the highly unlikely civil war. There are agencies that are tasked with protecting you and your family. The paranoia of "I needs my ARs!" only makes matters worse. Relax!

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

For the sake of clarity, my position is as stated above - that gun laws, whether strict or loose, carry much less weight than other factors in determining violent crime rates, just like @wv is suggesting.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

Plc I don't recall saying I am against background checks. I submit to one every time I buy a firearm and when I got my ccw too. They have very limited utility because they will not prevent criminals from getting and carrying firearms. When they are

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

implemented properly they are fine however I am extremely wary of such checks since they can be used as an easy avenue for politicians to deter and even deny good citizens from purchasing and carrying firearms. ESPECIALLY when there is some arbitrary

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

opinion to be rendered as the final call as appears to be the case in NY ccws. County apparently matters a lot since there is a county judge making the final call. Does that sound right? There should be a set of guidelines which the law requires

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

issuing authorities to follow. Aka will-issue.  You realize you said every law abiding mentally healthy citizen should be permitted to carry, and now you are praising the fact that it is difficult to purchase and carry legally. Which is it?

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

I am much more familiar with NJ and the state there is guilty of both. The tyrants ruling the state of NJ routinely use the law to both deter and deny good citizens their self defense rights. NO ONE gets a carry permit in NJ. No one unless you are

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

politically connected of course. The supreme Court of the state makes the call for every ccw application. On the deterrent side, the process of obtaining your fid card which is required to buy firearms and ammo is intentionally long, expensive, and

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

inconvenient. 

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I agree "that gun laws, whether strict or loose, carry much less weight than other factors in determining violent crime rates" But it appears to carry more weight when we are talking about gun violence.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

So are you for or against background checks? Your posts indicate you're against. Submitting to a mandatory check doesn't mean you support them.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

NY isn't, and IMO shouldn't become, a shall issue state. It's a may issue state. County judges make decisions that impact peoples lives and rights daily. Why not here?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Every law abiding mentally healthy citizen should be permitted to carry AND it shouldn't be an easy process. Both. Show yourself to be a law abiding, mentally capable, responsible adult and you should be approved.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I don't know anything about the NJ process so I wont comment either way. Except to say I hope it's similar to NY. LOL

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

Did I mention"civil war"?. . But being honest, those "agencies" would be stretched and prioritized. Your family isn't going to be near the top of that list. . just look at "Ferguson" businesses. .

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

All citizens will be at the top of the list. What's going on in Ferguson? Rioters? Nothin new. No reason to stack an arms room in the house. The authorities are containing the situation and the citizens are safe at home.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

businesses burned, looted, people assaulted.. . did you miss the riots & protests. .

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

you're naive if you truly believe a couple hundred cops can safeguard your family & 10000 others at the same time. .

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Fort Belvoir, VA, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Businesses in the area of the rioting. People stupid enough to be in the rioting area. It's isolated and contained. A couple of hundred cops with a couple of thousand troops can safeguard a pretty large area.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY , United States

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

For me, the concern would bee more about trust than ability. Knowing human nature, I would be concerned that the "authorities" would have my best interests in mind.

UndrWater @ almost 3 years ago

Northwest Torrance, Torrance, CA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

Not that I necessarily believe that maintaining a stock of guns would really protect me in such a situation. Not for very long, anyway.

UndrWater @ almost 3 years ago

Northwest Torrance, Torrance, CA

Ff0bc45e0c6ab8165b04eb40e5b1acf7

Guns attract attention, pretty soon your house would be swarmed. Better to use a crossbow or katana

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

Ff0bc45e0c6ab8165b04eb40e5b1acf7

But a shotgun with about 500 rounds would make sense to keep in the safe

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

Ff0bc45e0c6ab8165b04eb40e5b1acf7

So when the mindless drones come to tear apart everything you hold dear, you'll stand a chance of beating them back

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

Ff0bc45e0c6ab8165b04eb40e5b1acf7

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-att-us&source=android-browser&q=torrance+ca#q=turret+mounted+to+house&facrc=_&imgrc=7MHd9dsSLJfHsM%253A%3Bundefined%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fpaintballsentry.com%252Fimages%252Fpermanent%252520mount

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

How would you go about figuring out who is "mentally capable" and "responsible", PLC?

Dr. Evil @ almost 3 years ago

United States

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

by their gender and skin color?

Mr. Pink @ almost 3 years ago

Strongsville, OH 44136, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Not good criteria, pink.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

For him, they're perfect. after all, he had been found incapable and irresponsible.

UndrWater @ almost 3 years ago

Southwood Riviera, Torrance, CA 90505

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

I want the hidden turret gun Edna Mode had in "The Incredibles".

UndrWater @ almost 3 years ago

Southwood Riviera, Torrance, CA 90505

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

I am not for background checks but I am not against properly implemented ones that are not set up in an obstructionist manner. I don't know how else to explain it plc. Their purpose should be to prevent sales to known criminals.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

people need to be realistic about the expectations. Removing the simplest way to obtain a firearm does nothing to prevent criminals from obtaining them. It simply changes the how.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

NY and NJ have obstructionist systems in place designed to discourage legal ownership and carrying of firearms. That is flat out wrong and qualifies as oppression.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

In PA you show a license, they do an instant background check, and your leave with you firearm, including pistols.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

Want to carry? A 20 dollar fee and slightly lengthier check that the law requires to be completed in no more than 45 days. Mine took 14 days.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

And for a judge to have arbitrary decision power over your liberty is grossly offensive and flat out wrong. It opens the door to playing politics and favoritism as I already explained.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

Judges make decisions that impact people rights when they've committed crimes against other or in dispute resolutions. They should NOT be making decisions on your rights outside of those cases. Not about basic liberties. The fact that you believe

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

that to be just is sad.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

You are funny.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

From "County judges make decisions that impact peoples lives and rights daily." to "And for a judge to have arbitrary decision power over your liberty is grossly offensive and flat out wrong." ####ing olympic leap!

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I wish we could have a reasonable discussion. Blatantly misrepresenting what I say only hurts the conversation. Judges don't only make life altering decisions when a crime is involved. (see family court)

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Personally I don't think you're wrong. I think we differ in opinions. That's it. I respect your opinion. I hope what you desire never comes to NY. I like it the way it is. You apparently like PA. That's fine.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I like extensive background checks to purchase. However long it takes. 15 minute stop and shop for guns is a horrible way to sell guns. IMO. Why not a waiting period in which time checks can be conducted?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Oppression! LMAO!

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

everyone who buys a gun believes they are safe and use proper storage h20, every single person. there is not a single person walking out of a gun store who says "im going to leave this on my desk when my kids are playing

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

but it always happens, because people make mistakes, it is in those mistakes that kids shoot themselves in the head, and that is why the statistics are the way they are, because accidental shootings always happen more

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

than someone pretending like hes the last line of defense for his family because he heard his cat scream in the middle of the night.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

im sure you made at least one mistake in storage and safety since you got yours, and I don't care if you say you didn't, because you cannot be trusted, when it happens you don't even acknowledge you did it.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

the moment passed, "nothing happened, it wont happen again" is probably what you told yourself, but in every one of those instances, all over america something does happen, and it does happen again.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

nobody is 100%, 100% of the time, it is impossible and that's when the bad things happen.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

I don't hide my guns from my kids. They know where they are, and are trained in their use.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Gun accident statistics. http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/accidental-deaths/

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Adam, you're wacky, I've owned guns for thirty years and never did anything thing stupid with them.

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ almost 3 years ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

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@wv how many times have you dropped your baby? How many times have you misstepped while standing in the edge of a precipice? Proper handling of firearms falls into that category. Any one who doesn't treat it as such should reconsider ownership.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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@plc I mentioned dispute resolution which covers family court. You are missing the point.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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Suppression of rights its oppressive. Period. You don't feel that way (because you lean towards statism hehe) but many in your state do.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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You are delusional about both the states desire and ability to protect citizens, especially in emergency situations.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suppress

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

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Who's rights are oppressed?

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Delusional about the Governments desire and ability to protect citizens? That's the ruby ridge mentality that makes me laugh. Very paranoid for a person living under the security you doubt. I suggest you travel.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

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40,000,000 households in the US own a gun. In a given year there will be 20,000 suicides+fatal accidents involving a gun. A .05% chance.

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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If you remove suicides and look at fatal accidents (~500 yearly). The chance each year is .00125%

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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It is essentially the same chance as being struck by lightning

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/11/guns-child-deaths-more-than-cancer/2073259/

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

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Gang violence is a horrible thing. I was referring to the topic of having a gun in the house.

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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The chances of a serious accident happening are minute.

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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More dangerous to ride in a car? http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/child_passenger_safety/cps-factsheet.html

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/fire-prevention/fires-factsheet.html

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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The need for a gun should be weighed by the individual. It seems the overwhelming majority who have decided to own one are responsible

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Additionally the accident/fatality stats don't take into consideration the number of homes that have acquired guns illegally. HINT: There are a LOT of them

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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present

Mr. Pink @ almost 3 years ago

North Royalton, OH 44133, USA

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A lot of illegal guns is correct. And the are easy to get.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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A NJ busy felt threatened in the aftermath of sandy given the environment, breakins, etc. He wanted to be able to protect his family and decided the rusj was worth it so he purchased anv illegal 9mm. It took 1.5 days to get for a normally law abiding

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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citizen without criminal connections.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

At the same time he applied for his fid and a pistol purchase permit. That process took about 4 months even though NJ law requires govt to complete it within 30 days. (aka obstructionist)

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

When his paperwork finally came through he bought a legal 9mm and ditched the illegal one. Easy to get.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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#busy = buddy

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

plc's link: Source: Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence An objective source that would never manipulate data I'm sure.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Exchange Place North, Jersey City, NJ

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Attacking the source is so passé. Try to discredit it. With facts.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

, , United States

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You won't point out that he didn't need the gun during the 4 months. But I will.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

, , United States

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Illegal guns don't start off as illegal. They start off as legal. Purchased in lax gun law states. Then sold or stolen. Where they end up on NY streets. Great job.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

, , United States

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No gun (unless 3d printed) starts off as illegal

AMI @ almost 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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and how many times did you have to use your firearm to protect your family john?

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

and how many times did you have to use your firearm to protect your family racer?

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

and arlington you are missing the whole point of everything. i want to think you are being intentionally obtuse but that isn't the case. you didn't even think of accidental shootings when thinking about "no gun zones".

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

every time i handled my son there was a chance to drop him, lucky i never did, but the chance was always there this is how these kinds of statistics are created. not owning a gun is like never handling him.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

they aren't some abstract function of math like ami does. the #### happens every day.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

racer your graph is completely misleading. im comparing accidental gun deaths without suicides in comparisons to using that same gun protecting your family, not relating it to other accidents in the house.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

that link of yours does not change the fact. it distorts the reality of the statistics by comparing it to other completely unrelated things.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

if i wanted to be unfair i would add suicides, but i remove those numbers from gun control advocated. do you know why saturday night specials are banned?

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

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@PLC - the link you posted detailing gun deaths is an argument FOR gun ownership. Not against.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Bethlehem, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

That article doesn't differentiate between accidental and intentional shootings. Accidents are quite rare. Intentional shootings are much more common. That's why citizens need to defend themselves.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Bethlehem, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

The article also doesn't differentiate between child (under 13) and minor (under 18). Big difference between an 6 year old accidentally shooting himself, and a 17 year old gang member being shot in the street by a rival gang.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Bethlehem, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

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The incidences of citizens using guns to protect themselves it's far more frequent than the incidences of accidental shootings.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Monroe, GA, USA

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The most common type of gun death is intentional. suicide

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Monroe, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

Second is also intentional. homicide

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Monroe, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

Accidental shootings are relatively rare.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Monroe, GA, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

The facts don't support your attempts to remove guns from the hands of law abiding citizens.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Monroe, GA, USA

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The link I posted is neither FOR nor AGAINST gun ownership. It merely gives some facts and actually mentions gun control measures to curb the problem. Hardly FOR gun ownership.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

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I think the word "unintended" used in the article several times means unintended.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

I have made no attempt to remove any gun from anyones hand. Sorry for the fail. Maybe you can respond with a gay comment now. Just to keep with tradition.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

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unintended.. when gang banger shoots up the Street & kills 4 on kids in a playground

H2O @ almost 3 years ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

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I have used my firearm once thanks for asking. Didn't draw it but just putting my hand on it completely defused the situation. The assh0le went from pounding his wife's face in to passively waiting for the police to arrive.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

B67dcffad9da00f6755f4e0483bb5222

There were at least 10 people standing around doing nothing to help the woman... just watching. They were probably waiting for the police. When seconds count, the police arrive in minutes.

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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It's interesting how difficult it is to be reasonable around this topic.

UndrWater @ almost 3 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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Yes I agree undrwater. Gun control advocates are both unreasonable and illogical! ;)

Arlington Heights @ almost 3 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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i cant even tell if anyone is talking to me.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, United States

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they're not. your position has been summarily dismissed.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Bethlehem, GA, USA

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You're attempting to make an emotional plea for gun control on the basis of the tub accidents that kill innocent children. It's been proven that actual accidental shooting deaths are extremely rare. About 500 per year.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

That's beyond miniscule. Your position has no support.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

125e03ff143e887a8bee577895339921

Either come up with a better argument, or continue to sit at the little table.

Racer X @ almost 3 years ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

811f304d1edba24fb92ebcd4eeb3d8a8

Reasonable gun control measures work. As proven in states and countries that use them. More guns equals more violence. As any reasonable person would expect. The extremes on this issue don't understand logic.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

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or reason. Which is the norm for these hot topics.

Taco Bowl @ almost 3 years ago

New York, NY 10006, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

you have real issues racer.

[412035] @ almost 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, USA

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I agree with your last points PLC. Evidence has shown both an increase AND a decrease in violence. I'm betting there's some non-intuitive way to see why both could be correct, then design some policy to address it.

UndrWater @ almost 3 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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