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How come history books never speak of john hanson, a black man, the first leader (president) of what is now known as the United States of America.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Comments (246)

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How much more of history has been emasked to promote a false picture of history?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Why am I just finding his out?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Why was this not mentioned in any of my civics classes?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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What the #### is going on ppl! ####ing Abraham Lincoln was black, i always did see my self in him.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Thomas freaking jefferson black? I knew he had slave children, but he is black because his mom was half black?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Dwight D Eisenhower black lookng at him through a different lense i see it.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Harding black, andrew jackson black, freaking coolidge black

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Lol it makes sensd though these were some of the most progressive presidents....lol

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Meds time.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Lol you think so drew?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Lincolns known father was known to be sterile since childhood

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Were you evertaught about john hanson?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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In grade school.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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America would never openly accept this.....lol in reality could it? Iy has been wonder how mich more of history has been manipulated.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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http://fookembug.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/the-seven-black-presidents-before-barack-obama/

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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John Hanson was the first of seven Presidents elected under the Articles of Confederation I believe. George Washington was the first elected under our current Constitution

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Woodson Terrace, MO, USA

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And Hanson was a white man.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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http://www.teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/20309

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Why do you think you might be being lied to, Thinker?

Angelus @ about 3 years ago

Vestal, NY 13850, USA

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Wait, Jesus was black too, right? Hair of wool, etc...

et in Arcadia ego @ about 3 years ago

Elkhart, IN 46516, USA

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Stop allowing yourselves to be manipulated by race, political party, or whatever difference some race pimp or other agent uses to manipulate you.

Angelus @ about 3 years ago

Johnson City, NY, USA

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Yeah ya pawn. How perfect though, he's wondering why is he being lied to.. For your vote Pal

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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I mean he can still fight for black issues like the environment women's rights and homosexuality without being a Democrat.

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Or he could go to school like this guy, find a pretty woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVDIyuyxZOU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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http://historymyths.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/myth-88-john-hanson-was-the-real-first-president-of-the-united-states/

Taco Bowl @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10009, United States

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Wow. So what I gather is the best truth about Hanson is that there is so much disinformation about it that we can't really know what his background is. PLC, in your link, did you note how she wrote "he is NOT black", but provided ...

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

West Torrance, Torrance, CA

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...no evidence to support that. While drew's link claimed he was Swedish. PLC's link challenges that conclusion. So what does that mean? You get to pick the history that best matches your world view. Even better, make up your own!

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

West Torrance, Torrance, CA

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as to why history is written in a particular way...isn't that obvious?

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

West Torrance, Torrance, CA

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http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_8485.shtml

Taco Bowl @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10009, United States

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"Some have confused the colonial-era John Hanson with a politician from the African nation of Liberia who lived decades later in the mid-1800s."

Taco Bowl @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10009, United States

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i find it completely irresponsible that thinker would post something like this without taking the 5 seconds to see that whoever told him this was wrong.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25401, USA

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I forgave him the moment I saw it. Its okay thinker, just change your name already or I'm going to change my name to Mr considerate

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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the lower case

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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Drew he is mixed with mulatto.... Have you ever seen a pic of him?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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In grade school we are taught about the near eradication of the indian ppl, and the founding of fhe nation, but very little about what happened in between

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Look at his face drew. Broad wide nose curly hair. I see a light skinned black man when look at him http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanson

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Pink every publication and image of jesus to the main stream is of a blued blonded haired man. When you look at the geography and location of where jesus was supposedly born and the discription of jesus in the bible. It is highly unlikely that the

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Image we tattoe in our minds is true. I am not saying he is black, i dont know that, but i am saying that is was more likely that he was a man of color.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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I believe they rendered this based on the Shroud of Turin http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jesus+christ&view=detail&id=E01253A1C379F487CD6663B061375A896DA62AAD&first=32

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Really if Jesus was the immaculately conceived, he could have been any color

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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True enough ami, but my question is how did we extropolate eye and hair color

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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He looks like Kevin Spacey

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Drew can you really look at that picture of hanson and not see his african heritage?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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How do you explain the other presidents

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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I think you're seeing what you want to see. Tell us the truth, did you confuse colonial-era Hanson with the Liberian guy?

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Lol are you all telling me that hanson doesn't look like he has very near black relatives?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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That nose is telling otherwise

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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No the hanson the i looked up is the same on drew did.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Honestly

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Jesus was for everyone, and in him anyone could see themselves. The Catholic Church made the image you are referring to popular, they chose to see themselves. In the same fashion you often see black and Hispanic Jesuses. ..Jesi?

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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But jesus was born of men. Why not have a honest depction of him.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Ok so besides your claiming to see African ancestry in the painting, is there any other evidence for mulatto? (also remember there would only be paintings, there cannot be a photograph of the earlier Hanson since photography wasn't invented yet)

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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thinker, that's the thing, no one knows what an honest depiction of him would be, so people choose to see themselves

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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All i am saying is generate an image based off of wbat we know.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Also, now I could be wrong but I thought that under the Articles of Confederation, all the states were basically sovereign and it was just a sorta union like NATO. So it's "president" would basically be mostly a figurehead, right?

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Drew There is no direct proof did you think there would be.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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All i am saying is look at the man

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Makes you wonder why the continental congress is never spoken of or referenced.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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I thought there would be more to go on than he looks like he's got sub-Saharan African ancestry. Seems like all the references I see to it are from people who actually did confuse the two John Hansons.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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How do you explain the others drew

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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John Hanson was the first president of the Congress under the Articles of Confederation but he was not the first president of the Continental Congress I think.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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There's loads referencing the continental congress by the way but it's not included when you're talking about Presidents because....when we say President (esp capitalized) it is shorthand for the office created under the US Constitution

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Let me ask ami you dont see your self in a darker hued jesus?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Before the US Constitution, "president" I think was mostly a ceremonial leader, that kinda president still exists for example in Ireland and Poland, there are "presidents" that take the place of former constitutional monarchs.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Thats why i put president in parenthesis, but you would think that history would pay homage to such an important role in the structuring of the foundation for which this nation was founded on....why is that?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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thinker, when I refer to most I certainly do not refer to myself. I believe Jesus sees himself in me and you equally. How I perceive him is inconsequential. Honestly I have zero precognition of what the man looked like

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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And fhat is my whole point we should not, and if we do we should refer instead of infer what he loomed like.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Thinker, it *wasn't* an important role. It was mostly ceremonial that's why there isn't much mentioned on it I think. It isn't a conspiracy

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Lol...The man made thanks giving drew..... Thanks freakning giving. http://www.dickgregory.com/dick/14_washington.html

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Seriously drew the man held the new cointry together so that there could be a Uniyed states. I think that is wsy worth mentioning

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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They just want you to believe it was ceremonial

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Damn evil "them"!

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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we can see your excitement!

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Why have you invested so much of you're self-worth in the race of the first president? There's one race; the human race. Get over this nonsense. There's so much more to life. Stop letting them hold you back.

Angelus @ about 3 years ago

Johnson City, NY, USA

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You know angelus i like your comment and i agree with you. I have lived my whole life with color-free shades on. Believing that every peraon is judeged based of the their character. It wasn't until Barack Obama was elected president, and getting on

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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VM that i started paying attention to the small nuances of our country of today. I asked my self the question why is it that the majority of the black and brown communities are concentrated in the inner city? Why is it whe you look at the employment

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Distribution black ppl make up roughly 13 percent of the country, but have an unemloyment rate twice thay of whites? Why is it that for every single dollar spent in black community schools there is 10 dollars spent in white community schools.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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These arejist some of the questions i began asking myself, andthe conclusion i draw is that the world has not changed. It is sort of like thesaying, "the more things change the more they stay the same". This world seems more equa, more tolerant, but

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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The more you scratch the surfaces tje more you realize the world has not changed its heart only its methods.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Angelus it is hard for me, at this point, to say that ppl are ppl because we are not.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Black ppl are objectified, scrutunized, stereotyped more than any group in this country.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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I think angelus' point is that to spend such energy only helps to increase the divide.

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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energy better spent on a positive path forward, rather than obsessing over the poison of the past. learn from the past, but don't expect it to change.

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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Why does discussion increase the divide? Are the wordsk spew hate filled

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Why is it taboo to discuss racism, when there is obviously a racial divide in this country.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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Underwater this is todays world i am speaking of not yesteryear..... Today.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Decatur, IN 46733, USA

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this is so uncomfortable

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Black people are stereotyped? Just buy a belt and figure out how to use a alarm clock.

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ about 3 years ago

North Olmsted, OH, USA

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gas prices going up :-)

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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John why don't you look at the context that that thinker speaking in instead of making yet flippant dismissive remark.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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anytime someone of color makes a remark on the state of things it's complaining, not having self responsibility, deviding, or focusing on color.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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no. it's just a reality of where things are. It's not a declaration of how every moment is spent thinking about their color, or making an excuse for where they are (as I think thinker and I are doing quite well). it's a reality that even though

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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It's a great thought to say color makes no difference, and I only see human race. that is not a reality afforded to blacks. that's simple truth. While you can't let it rule your decisions or control your ambitions and goals, the fact of the matter is

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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When an educated, well off, proper speaking, well dressed black man encounters many every day occurrences (such as being pulled over by the cops) the situation plays out far different than it would for a white man.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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reality. When a black man is all those things I just described he is often still looked at as coming to that place by ill gotten means.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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stating black unemployment is twice that of whites (as it always has been) is not saying poor me I can't get a job, or all whites are racist. it's saying that doesn't add up.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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John's response to thinker saying blacks get stereotyped a lot says volumes. He put a question mark behind it inferring the stereotyped are true, then grabbed for the action of the bottom of the barrel blacks to

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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to legitimize this slanted view. I went on a rant a couple weeks ago because it became slightly annoying seen those types of comments over and over and over from a select few people because it is indicative of our society as a whole imo.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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soooo, why do blacks call a successful black man "uncle tom"? . why is it acceptable for a black (or liberal) to use the term nígger, but not whitey? there's a lot of "stereotyping" to go around on both sides Don. .

H2O @ about 3 years ago

Battlefield, VA, USA

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The attitude that "I'm not racist" but I only have severely negative things to say about that race and I will say them over and over with no real point. Just to remind everyone how bad they are. To the point of one of them asking me, and meaning it

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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to name them one positive thing in the black community. now if your thought pattern is there is nothing good in the black community, and the majority of blacks are just like the bottom of the barrel ones there is no need for you to be racist.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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The results of that are the same. makes it real easy to dismiss things like twice the unemployment holding steady as they are simply twice as lazy.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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H20. which blacks are those that call successful blacks "uncle toms?" thanks again for pinning the action of the few on the whole.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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Why is it OK for you to call your wife sugar, and not another man? personal relationships dictate a lot of language used among people. The wrong black man calls another a n! gger and it's just as bad. context is everything.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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You will often see a white people who hang with blacks saying it to them also and it won't be a big deal. my question to you is do you feel slighted not being able to use it when you want?

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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and yes there is a lot of stereotyping and racism to go around on all sides. This isn't just a bad whitey situation.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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It's no more right to buy into the "rich cracka" stereotype as it is to buy into the "thug n!gga" one. my point is even if you aren't racist, considering those stereotypes a truth among the majority of a race is as harmful as being racist.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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Justice Thomas... by many so called black leaders. . when the leadership uses derogatory language, it's going to associate across the board. . I've never considered using that term to describe my in-laws and not surprising to me, ....

H2O @ about 3 years ago

Battlefield, VA, USA

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... they find it offensive, no matter who uses it. (either term). .

H2O @ about 3 years ago

Battlefield, VA, USA

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Unemployment is tied to education and environment, not strictly race. Unfortunately, neither side wants to address the harsh realities of it. . Money alone hasn't solved it, evidence the DoE, a failure. .

H2O @ about 3 years ago

Battlefield, VA, USA

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Check the latest reports on desegregation, dropout rates, reading & math capabilities, etc... .

H2O @ about 3 years ago

Battlefield, VA, USA

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The leadership? Al sharpton? come on now. If someone who would call another black man an uncle Tom for being successful is deemed "leadership" or considered such then that is part of the problem.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

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There again is logical anomaly. To think that blacks as a whole believe successful blacks are "uncle toms" or "selling out". it has no basis in truth and again only serves to make it seem as if blacks have no desire to be successful.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

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but......even "non racist" whites think that is how most blacks think. It's not.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA, USA

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h20 I believe thinker brought that up too. The concentration of very low income to poverty, and the schools. it's self fulfilling proficy. money isn't everything but the lack of it causes issues.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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The cities spend less on the schools because they have less because the area is so poor.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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I thought Uncle Tom was reserved for those with an "incorrect" political opinion.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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And Sharpton, he may not be as much nationally, but here in New York that schmuck *is* considered a black leader.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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That's unfortunate drew. him and Jackson being ran out in front of the public to start talking anytime an issue with race comes up infuriates me.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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h20. The issue is very complex and you are right education does play a large part. however, if you line up education levels it also holds at about twice as much.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2011/03/black_unemployment_college_grads_arent_faring_well.html

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Yeah it's fcked up Don. Every local politician has to make nice with Rev Al.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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For the record I don't think it's "racism" driving it.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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I believe it's a combination of status quo and as we all know getting hired is often not what you know as much as who you know.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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I'd like to see how the rates compare with similarly educated immigrants.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

I'll try to find it but I believe I came across something that says it mirrors the national rate

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

You have to remember though it's no longer give us your tired your hungry etc. It's what do you have for us. That combines with a general higher education level just to get out if their country somewhat skews what an imigrant actually is.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

They may take lower lever jibs here for a short period of time, but it's not as if they forgot how to be successful and cannot use that to their advantage or pass it to their children.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Which brings up another part of the puzzle h20. The passing of knowledge, skills, and expertise.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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Some took me saying an acceptance of illegal activity as meaning blacks as a whole are OK with it. what I meant was though history, some very recent, many blacks had to operate outside the law and those are the skills and traits they modeled and

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

That's why I said, controlling for education. And also I'm curious how black immigrants stack up with black Americans?

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10016, USA

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passed on. hard to teach and tell things you know nothing about.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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I would too drew. I don't know where to begin to look for that.

don Pappi @ about 3 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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It isn't a relevant comparison anyways.

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

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Well put don. Here is a great video i found on facebook. I loved it. Lets try to be racially brave. http://www.upworthy.com/an-executive-got-mistaken-for-kitchen-help-but-instead-of-getting-angry-she-turned-it-into-this?g=3&c=ufb1

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Root, IN, USA

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Now back to black presidents what about the other claims i made?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Fort Wayne, IN 46805, USA

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There's a wikiarticle on it, but I don't put great trust in that article except it's certainly a useful starting point. The discussion page is probably interesting too.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10001, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_heritage_of_United_States_presidents

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10001, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

And of course, the one drop criterion for blackness is only a 20th century invention. So there's that.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10001, USA

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But you do realize how stupid the one drop rule is

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Union, IN, USA

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Yet you basically endorsed it, haven't you?

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10001, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

I dont endorse it i accept it.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Columbia City, IN 46725, USA

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All i am saying why is it acceptable for everyone else of mixed race but not the pres

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Columbia City, IN 46725, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Well to apply it to pre-20th century Presidents would be quite anachronistic, don't ya think?

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10001, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

It's mostly in the US we see it. My London friend identifies as mixed, not Black. Different strokes for different folks.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10001, USA

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I'm lost. one drop must equal black?

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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and cool link, thinker. the biggest problem with her talk, though, it's she's preaching to the choir.

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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The rule is that your ancestry must be at least 1/16 of a particular race to identify as that on the census, I believe

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

General idea on here. It's unique to the USA, and it's only 20th century onward. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10001, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Also this article is decent. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/mixed/onedrop.html

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

New York, NY 10001, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Interracial marriage became legal in all 50 states when?! 1998!! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/quiz/4.html

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Central, Cleveland, OH

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you're really doubling down on this thinker?

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Middleway, WV, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

2004 pink.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Middleway, WV, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

You only need one sixteenth black blood to be considered black? Well let's put 20 seconds on the clock and see how many jokes we can come up with

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

I'll bet the NAACP won't be happy to hear this

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

No wonder there's so many "Caucasians" on welfare

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

The Negro College Fund won't be happy to hear this

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

The National Organization of Black Cardiologists won't be happy to hear this

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

The National Black Caucus won't be happy to hear this

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

My Pigford check came now I can buy a dvd player!

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

who you callin' whigger you racist

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

Ff0bc45e0c6ab8165b04eb40e5b1acf7

thinker, check this out http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanche_Bruce

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I like this guy. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Francis_White

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Middleway are you WV conservative?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Loved those articles, but my point/ question still stands why is it that men with obvious african ancestry considered white?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

John hanson was a known Moor, in the UK. In the Uk at the time moor was a name given to all black ppl

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

By todays standards someone like hanson would be considered black.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

And that is a very interesting point thinker and I know this is going to be tough for you. Why does Obama who probably is more than 50% Caucasian call himself black?

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

You're calling people 12% black, blacks.Yet here is Obama guaranteed at least 50% white jet setting around the world

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

With all his promises to the African American( giving them nothing) and partying on our dime using that dark skin as a weapon giving blacks a bad name

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

That is a great question, actually pink obama is half white if not more.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Is it because of his darker hue? Or his curly hair? Or his broad defining features?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

yep "question" is the operative

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

That we consider him black

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Giving blacks a bad name? How so?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

nope it's your weakness of mind. You had a chance with that pizza guy but he got knocked down by none other than who? The Liberals

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

You know why Obama probably identifies as black because? Because that is the category America has put him in.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

I'd explain it to you but your head would explode

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

My opinion has always been why should the president do anything for one group over the other.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Bama's white look at his spoiled life.No knowledge of the "Black experience" except for his drug use of course

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Another good point because Obama has constantly made a distinction of his color..you lose pal ok? , and yes that is WV conservative.

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Lol, you talking about herman cain? He was a lying cheater. Lol, how could you trust a man that that could not even be faithful to his wife?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

He identifies very clearly as an African-American as opposed to a melting pot American, which makes him totally unqualified to be president for Americans of all races and ethnicities.

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

yes or no?

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

you lose you look foolish you goofed that was your chance and because of Bama's lies it was you last chance.You will not live long enough to see another

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

I know obama identifies him self as a black man. Black ppl accept all of our brothers and sisters of mixed descent. It is just our nature. I asked the question why does he consider him self black. Society labeled him black the moment he entered

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

The world.

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

of course and that was the last time because he set a terrible example with the drugs lies and parties

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

to the rest of we non brothers and sisters even spics

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Male Caucasians and female Caucasians homos and Mexicans are all ahead in line (again) for a thousand years because of that guy.I tried to warn you ya know

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Lol

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

You can be really funny sometimes

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Thank you and if it weren't for that big chip on your shoulders we could be friends

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

That was a bad day when Barack Obama was nominated I saw it from the very beginning. And if you look back on some very old posts you would see me

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

This man that knows nothing of being black in America being black in America either tears you down or build your character Morgan Freeman in movies type deal

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Lol, then what would you consider us?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

The aging black male is so easily and acceptably depicted as an admirable and honest man because of PAST EXPERIENCE. As opposed to the lifestyle of Barack Obama which taught him nothing

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

you follow black hippie?

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

I think I skipped a period

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Obama is a spoiled rebel a total ass. Community organizers riles people up into action,that's all he knows how to do. Would you want Obama as your submarine captain?

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Lol we can not be friends because i ask questions?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

you know you goofed with this guy.We know you goofed,it's OK.Vote for Hillary and accept the place the Libs allow you.Actually don't,you're killing each other and we are so sorry but there's nothing

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

the rest of us can do other than build prisons.NOT OUR FAULT

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

I dont ghink the guy did a bad job as president. Ultimately his legacy will fall on the success of the healthcare act

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

-I consider your people very unfortunate Thinker.

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

George Z walking the street probably carrying legally. Touring the Glock facilities, selling his paintings?You're Fücked but the Bama isn't,he's a millionaire

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

Unfortunate why?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

What does george z have to do with anything?

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Ignorance is bliss :-) but you know what I'm talking about the Democrats depend on it for their own existence

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

Ff0bc45e0c6ab8165b04eb40e5b1acf7

Pink, isn't it ironic that you identify as a Republican but are demonizing Obama's wealth as a way to create animosity towards him?

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Now you touched a nerve because it rained on my wedding day :-(

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Actually I'm a liberal. I believe in all the things that liberals believe only I walk the walk which makes me a conservative, ironic don't you think?

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

Ff0bc45e0c6ab8165b04eb40e5b1acf7

What do liberals believe?

AMI @ about 3 years ago

Villa Park, IL, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Infidelity lies drug use and...shìt that's it

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Although I don't feel the jealousy anger and contempt they feel

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

"how could you the trust a man, who can't even be faithful to his wife"….. thinker .. ROFLMAO . Clinton come to mind? .

H2O @ about 3 years ago

Spotsylvania, VA 22553, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Not only faithful to his wife which is a concept I have little grasp of but his lack of self control. Has anyone ever read the Lewinsky transcripts? That guy has no control!

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Think of the embarrassment he put his daughter through . That man has nothing, he is an empty shell and he's going to be wandering the halls of the White House soon

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

7ad281127bc26edce785c36e7ea6d8b8

I don't

-the thinker @ about 3 years ago

Mishawaka, IN, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

this ####ing guy...

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25404, United States

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Perhaps you don't think of it because you don't care much about women and children? And shut up you no name pain in the ass and I don't mean that in a good way

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Carlisle, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Chelsea and Hillary Clinton are the two most embarrassed women to ever grace the White House. Now if we have a first lady that even after reading about how Americans died through the ages

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

37425-37435 Royalton Rd, Grafton, OH 44044

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Helping this whole planet dying by the hundreds of thousands we have a first lady who only until recently was truly proud of this country

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

37425-37435 Royalton Rd, Grafton, OH 44044

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

That always shuts them up :-) come on you guys you get real quiet when you talk about proud of this country while backing this administration

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

37425-37435 Royalton Rd, Grafton, OH 44044

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

And soon we'll see Hillary embarrassed Clinton on a daily basis as she campaigns? I can't take this anymore! The previous previous administration

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

26703-26749 Royalton Rd, Columbia Station, OH 44028

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

And Bill's pet "your children are fat"project? what could it be?something light and nothing to do with young girls

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Strongsville, OH 44136, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

pink, what is it you hope to achieve here?

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25404, United States

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

to seriously aggravate a situation without actually changing the course of history?I don't know,you're the one getting all serious

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

I am merely trying to point out why history books never speak of what's his face

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Pretty soon voter map will glitch out, no more updates and you can stumble blindly into your unpredictable downward spiraling future without my guidance

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

are there any forums where you participate with genuine debate? like a negaverse pink?

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

because i could rightly embarrass thinker for this #### but i don't think he will let the shame in and he will double down here. but this post of his is the absolute worst of voter map.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

its so full of #### I can't even pinpoint the exact bull#### black nationalist site he got this made up #### from. and the ####ing moron doubles down when you tell him he is wrong and can't back up his bull#### sources.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Adam Stephens, WV, USA

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it is literally more cancer infested f@ggotry than any of the most hated conservatives like inex or dontaistorm.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Adam Stephens, WV, USA

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did your mom EVER wash your mouth out with soap? such potty mouth! I'm shocked!

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

Beverly Hills, CA 90212, USA

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I think he got it from that dickgregory site.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Morningside Heights, New York, NY

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i saw dick gregory's site, but it didn't spew that #### about thomas Jefferson, abraham lincoln, etc etc.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25404, United States

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if you cant reverse engineer sources on the internet what you believe is too loony for the craziest of people.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25404, United States

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reminds me of that time a girl i work with asked me if i knew "the liberals" are trying to make abortions legal after the baby has been born.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Martinsburg, WV 25404, United States

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Certainly there's some academic articles arguing that. But otherwise that's fringe. Although, Pete Singer mentions it.

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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I found this post. http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=74896

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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that's a scary forum, Drew!

UndrWater @ about 3 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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Yeah seriously

The Drew @ about 3 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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i found leroy vaughn but never that info quoted in that sourced dead link. that guy is an idiot. as to vanguard saying others are stupid i used to mock alex linder to his face

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Tuscarora, WV, USA

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when he posted biblical based articles saying homophobia is a jewish doctrine. he deleted them afterwards.

[412035] @ about 3 years ago

Tuscarora, WV, USA

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great message board,black men who sound like black men instead of white women

Mr. Pink @ about 3 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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