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The case relied on by the NSA to collect metadata under the PATRIOT Act. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/10/nsa-smith-purse-snatching/

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Comments (165)

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Wow.

jc @ about 4 years ago

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come on now! you COULD be a criminal! or be gay, or Muslim, or part of the communist party, or Christian, or Jewish.....

UndrWater @ about 4 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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Give me a break. If it wasn't this it'd be some other nonsense justification like the commerce clause. Wasn't there money in her purse use for commerce?

Angelus @ about 4 years ago

Johnson City, NY 13790, United States

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The court's decision comes first, the legal justification to support it comes after.

The Drew @ about 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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It doesn't really matter what the legal justification is, as long as they come up with a case or two that they can twist it around to fit whatever decision they've predetermined.

The Drew @ about 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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I'm guessing that's even more true when it comes to secret decisions because they assume very very few people will read it.

The Drew @ about 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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You didn't give a #### when the right made this program, it is to make us more safe remember, anyone who said anything about it was making us less safe, remember? your talking points from the time. Another good one was, if your doing nothing wrong

Sinner @ about 4 years ago

Belpre, OH, USA

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then you have nothing to worry about...remember? Why NOW do you have a problem with a program you made possible?

Sinner @ about 4 years ago

Belpre, OH, USA

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why don't you have a problem with it when it's your own #### sucker that's abusing it?

A Benevolent Greedy Bastard @ about 4 years ago

Pendleton, IN, USA

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↑ cöck. as in peter puffer.

A Benevolent Greedy Bastard @ about 4 years ago

Pendleton, IN, USA

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Those were *my* talking points at the time? Uh, I didn't have this app at the time.

The Drew @ about 4 years ago

Flatiron District, New York, NY

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I believe she's talking to "the right" whoever that may be.

UndrWater @ about 4 years ago

Southeast Torrance, Torrance, CA

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Angilius, using the commerce clause to justify collection of metadata? Please do explain that one, not even I can manage to stretch regulation of commerce quite that far in any fantasy world.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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Roe v Wade was an unimaginable stretch, yet it happened.

The Drew @ about 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Not as much of a stretch as Angilius' retarded flight of fancy, but whatever works for you Drew.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Regardless of your opinion on abortion though, you really have to agree that decision was a pretty big stretch. And doc, you never answered my question. I know you're pro-choice, but do you believe there should be gestational limits on..

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Fully elective abortion?

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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And if so, what should the limit be?

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Regarding the constitutional question, it really is tough. I can really see that one both ways but probably not for the reasons you think. I think it comes down to how we define when life truly behind and when we will legally protect it as such.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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(behind = begins) Until that moment, to outlaw abortion is really just government regulation of a personal medical decision...almost a fourth amendment issue, perhaps a first amendment issue. Similar to a persons right to die, which I believe in.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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If an adult of sound mind wants to tattoo themselves, cut or pierce themselves, end their life, or terminate a pregnancy I think they have that right. Until that pregnancy is legally protected above the right of the adult carrying it.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Problem: when is that point? That's the thorny issue for me. Divorcing religion and emotion from the issue is hard but necessary. Has science really answered this question? I am not sure it has.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I tend to think of a pregnancy as life when the fetus can live outside the mothers body. Then, the pregnancy can be terminated with a birth.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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then there's always the truth- that is a baby and you people are MONSTERS!!!!!!

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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FÜCKING MONSTERS!!!! These people when they look at a picture of an aborted fetus they go "eww gross" You get pregnant you take the responsibility Ever hear that stupid fàg statement "we got pregnant"? You liberal man hating broads!!!

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Hairy armpit crusty toe nailed stinky püss liberal au natural twàts!!! When you selfish broads want to keep your baby you look at the man and scream "he's your baby too"!!

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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I know a stinky crusty liberal b****.. pro-abortion etc...some guy was drunk enough to f*** her one night and she decided to raise this hunk of unviable tissue mass gave it a name and everything

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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And as she went for as much child support as possible she said its HIS baby. I'll bet he works his ass off as she monitors his income looking for more and more

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Several of my buddies got chicks pregnant, picking them up at bars. I always leave about midnight head downtown where the real action is.. As my buddies sat on drunken bar stools saying "I would never pay for it"

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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240 an hour for a reasonable call girl. In call-meaning she has her own place so that saves me 90 bucks and you don't have to present your credit card at some motel so now we're down to 150

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Dinner 70 bucks tip 20 now we're down to 60. Add the fact that she's 30 years younger than me Kiss with tongue yes swallow yes Brings second provider yes? 60 bucks?

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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When I was 18 I got the crabs from some prostitute. Then I banged my buddies cute girlfriend who happened to be a total slüt. Next thing you know we all had the fücking crabs!!! All my buddies, my girlfriend their girlfriends!! It wasn't funny then

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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But it sure is funny now!

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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I'm speaking to the older gentleman here.. This woman is real cool.I hate to share her but here you go( tell her Mr Pink) I kid you not

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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She says 240 but she loves her job a few tattoos I'm not too fond of http://cleveland.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lea-michaels-is-back-and-ready-to-play-24/9022900

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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And thank you Dr Evil for giving me this venue So where were we? Oh yeah you were saying-it's a big blob of shït that falls out of your hole but if you wait long enough it's a human

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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That its "your" body I try never to talk about abortion with women because of the horror they must feel( in case they did have an abortion) To think I had some monster reach up my cünt and squeeze the life out of something precious that was mine

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Of course they're going to try to find logic and justification but they know in their hearts if there is a God there will be hell to pay. Of all the criminal immoral deceitful things I've done

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Well you certainly do illustrate the reason I say we have to try and divorce emotion and religion from such a discussion. Your emotion and religion doesn't apply to others. Impartiality and law demand we try.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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If there is a God Another interesting female↓ http://www.misslizziebeth.com

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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and this one says no kissing AFTER the contribution is placed on the vanity http://akroncanton.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-know-you-missed-me-21/13953686

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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. Someday maybe the fetus will receive human status just like the black man

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Making the woman of lower status.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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How much lower can you get?

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Certainly no lower in your opinion, that much is clear.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I don't see how a fetus fails to meet the scientific definition of life. I thought things were just controversial at the "personhood" bit. And personhood is an ethical, not a scientific question

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Look at whackjobs like Pete Singer, he doesn't think personhood exists for even newborns.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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And if there is no person, I guess what's growing inside the woman is simply property, regardless about whether its alive or not.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Is a group of undifferentiated cells a life?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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was it gattica?

UndrWater @ almost 4 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=15946

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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It WILL later acquire, there is no debate as to what the cells will become....we cannot continue to pretend that 'choice' and 'life' have such ubiquity in their definitions

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Life is as valid in its potential as energy, as progress, as the universe

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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I don't judge those who have abortions, they will judge themselves harshly enough in time

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Potential life is not life, or masturbation would be murder. Many potential lives are lost through spontaneous abortion because something in the cells or the womb or the path to the womb is screwed up. Just the way it goes.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Undifferentiated cells are groups of cells that have not yet formed e.g. brain cells, heart cells, blood cells, etc. etc. When egg meets sperm this is the format for quite awhile. I really do not consider this a baby.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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So you are equating human choice to the chaos of nature? A known unknown? And masturbation has no life potential, no matter how much comes out, the likelihood for life is zero.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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A husband that kicks his pregnant wife in the stomach should be charged with battery only, not with murder? Does life only exist in the desire of the female to give birth?

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Masturbation has as much life potential as vaginal ejaculation if the woman is not ovulating. Nature is chaotic...that is its very essence. Life is simply order that sometimes arises from chaos. If and when that happens, fine. Even when it seems

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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to start, it may not get there anyway. To me it isn't there until it actually is.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Legally I don't see protecting what might be. What potentially might be a life in the future...over Amd above the rights of a living individual.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Order and chaos cannot exist in the same dimension imo. There are only absolutes, choice is either freewill or an illusion. Life either is, or is not.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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And if life is simply a series of unrelated circumstances, then choice has no meaning, no bearing, no morality, no point

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Anarchy becomes the closest facsimile of reality

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Of course they exist together. One gives rise to the other, they are yin and yang. Fractals, anyone?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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But you are right about this: either life is there, or its not. Where it gets tricky is in defining what we protect as "living". A sperm cell is living. A human embryo is living. Yet we throw away both every day.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Fertility clinics harvest embryos...plant the most likely viable ones and chuck the rest in the garbage. Problem?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Also they plant several...6-8 embryos specifically. Usually, only 1-3 make it, but not always. When more make it they go in and scrape out the rest. Problem?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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A woman's eggs are living and are potential lives.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Just to touch on yin/yang, it is the balance of good and evil. It represents perfect order, the absence of chaos.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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By the way, people get horrified when a woman doesn't have fertility clinic scrape out the excess fetuses! You know who that woman is? "Octomom".

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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So what to do AMI. Where will you draw the line. Shut down those immoral fertility clinics and arrest the murderers that work there? Send in the masturbation cops on Pink every half hour or so?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Moral relativity is a bitch, no doubt. And in this world, compromise is often the only path to sensible solutions. Abortion is a product of poor education leading to a series of poor choices.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Making abortion illegal will only create a dangerous black market. The solution lies in how to best prevent the situation from happening in the first place.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Condoms have high failure rates, they are poor performers as birth control. The best way to avoid getting an STD is to have a little self control.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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I would be open to promoting birth control pills, or other options for girls who cannot take that option.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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The government would save money long term by preventing teen pregnancies through such a program. Concerning abortion, I think the cut off for the procedure should be after the first trimester.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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I still think it's murder, but I'm but a moral dictator

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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I'm not

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Doc, do you believe in any gestational limits at all?

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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I would be open to promoting male birth control. I would also be open for promoting male sterilization for any male that does not support a woman's right to choose what to do with her own body, but I'm no moral dictator.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Lol her own body? Are you still on that?

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Isn't there another body involved?

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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No.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Contributing 10 seconds of ecstasy does not count. Sorry. You may be involved for other reasons.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I'm talking about the "property" growing inside the woman

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Male sterilization? That doesn't make sense, spay the bitch.

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ almost 4 years ago

Olmsted, OH, USA

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I can't believe she didn't even pick up on that Drew. They have really convince themselves that that's a blob of shït

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Apparently a fetus a simply a parasite, a tapeworm that can either be extracted surgically or expunged maturely

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Montgomery, IL, USA

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Or naturally rather

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Montgomery, IL, USA

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Doc, believe it or not, sometimes it's the woman who is the scumbag, not the guy

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60506, USA

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but usually it's the.... pink, think if him add a young black male and you get the picture. sterilization sounds better now?

UndrWater @ almost 4 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

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Promoting the pill and sterilizing males aren't items that should exist in the same discussion.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60506, USA

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Why.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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My husband got snipped once we decided we were not going to have kids. He told me he didn't see any reason why I should have the burden of putting chemicals in my body to prevent pregnancy.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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You guys think its no big deal for women to bear every burden of decision regarding sex, contraception, childbearing. It is. And those decisions do lie with us. And we get blamed if you believe our decisions are wrong.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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If men had to make those decisions it would be a much different world. Don't kid yourselves.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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BS. Chemicals with a long history of safety and no significant side effects.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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So gestational limits, Doc... What should they be? Should there be any at all?

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Interesting. Now ang is arguing for putting chemicals in people's bodies.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeville, MN 55044, United States

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No, actually I don't believe in artificial birth control, but have to call out evil on her BS.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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except for the part where you're wrong...

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Rosemount, MN, USA

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Already stated my personal view on that one Drew. Not sure I am right about it but its my opinion with the best of the knowledge I have.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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One more point about all this is that abortion limits in this country merely serve to force poor women into unwanted births. I can fly to any country in the world to get a safe, legal abortion. Women on welfare can't even afford to get to another

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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state with less restrictive abortion laws. So all of this high moral ground of yours will only serve to increase the welfare rolls in this country if you persist. It will not stop it. I repeat. Laws against abortion WILL NOT STOP ABORTION.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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so if they pass laws against abortion, it'll stop?

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Leon, MN, USA

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Skäl they should try

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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As I stated above, outlawing abortion as a whole is dangerous. I do think that any smart pharmaceutical company would be putting resources into finding a contraceptive pill for men...one that is temporary

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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http://www.askmen.com/sports/health_400/499_birth-control-for-men.html

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

"I can fly to any country in the world to get a safe legal abortion" ‰ Quote from crazy lady ¢

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

I'll call you and raise you one Abortion should only be legal in cases of legitimate rape( 4 male witnesses) Obama is a Muslim ya know

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Doc, you're wrong about people on welfare having babies. Many choose to have unprotected sex, many choose to have the baby, and many love that baby more than anything. Many DO NOT wish they could go back and abort their baby.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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What sexually active young persons in a poor community need is not free abortions, it is active parenting that is involved and open in explaining the potential consequences of reckless sexual behavior

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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This and education and availability of preventative measures such as the pill, condoms, etc.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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CHOICE is a factor that is important in the entire chain of events, not just the point where they decide to scramble up the lifeform inside

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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There is also never enough education on the potential physical and psychological with abortion. The doctor doesn't wave a magic wand over you turning the fetus into baby dust. Killing something effectively usually involves a much more destructive

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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technique.

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Physical and psychological complications

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

Abortion isn't a positive thing, and regardless if you're pro abortion or anti abortion, you should support social changes that would eliminate the need for them

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

Abortion in Sweden, very liberal, very socialist, lots of restrictions on abortion. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Sweden

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Montgomery, IL, USA

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

In Russia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Russia

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

Japan requires the consent of the father http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Japan

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

What do our Muslim friends think http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_abortion

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

If you decide Mexico is best for your abortion needs http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Mexico

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

In Germany http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Germany

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

http://www.m.webmd.com/baby/ss/slideshow-fetal-development

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

It would reduce welfare rolls to kill recipients, but why are you not advocating that, evil. skal shoudn't be allowed to murder someone just because they're not old enough to vote democrat.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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no need. that's what ssri's are for

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Rochester, MN 55901, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Go murder some babies, scvm.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

with ssri's?

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Northrup, Rochester, MN

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Doc, you're so wrong about flying to any country in the world, so very wrong. Our country actually has a lot fewer restrictions than most of them do.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

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Drew you saw a few of my randomly selected examples above

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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Most places have gestational limits that are far earlier than we have.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

You know what's funny is the really pro-choice folks don't seem to like the technological advancements in fetal imaging. For some reason it bothers them.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Check this out, it's a woman and her own body! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ZCtHT1fNU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

Abf9ecb978253a73878c16a7a93e1af4

Hey! That mass of undifferentiated cells looks a lot like a baby! No one should ever deserve to see something as horrific as that

AMI @ almost 4 years ago

Aurora, IL 60505, USA

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eewwW gross!

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Columbia, OH, USA

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By "any" I didn't mean literally every other country. I meant I could fly somewhere, wherever it is I had to fly to get what I need. Good lord.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

And AMI please don't preach about how much poor women want their children. Of course some do and some don't. Like the rest of us. Point is, only they are forced to bear then when they don't want to. Stop with that preachy tone please.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Then you would have said somewhere, right?

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Doc, what actually is your position? Elective, no-limit abortion up until birth?

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Yeah Doc who lives and who dies?

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Strongsville, OH 44136, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

It's kind of a mute point what whether evil can fly to another country and have an abortion, or not. I'v heard there are guys who are into "grannies with trannies," but I've never met anyone who was actually into that

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

stuff.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

have you specifically asked about that fetish? or is membership on your subreddit r/granniesandtrannies low? you should advertise

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Lincolnshire - Arbor Glen, Rochester, MN 55901

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Like I said Drew I stated my position on that already.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

ouch on the mute

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

This whole discussion was simply a result of the question of whether the NSA ruling regarding metadata gathering is as much of a legal stretch as Roe v. Wade.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Frankly its like comparing apples and oranges. At any rate, I have my answer. My personal opinions on whether abortion should or should not happen are quite beside the point. I answered the question that was posed.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

(I gave my answer) Then of course, you all started attacking the position as my own personal one. This happens quite often...I try to give an impartial answer, not one based on my personal opinion guys.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Where did you state it doc? Maybe I missed a message or something.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Thank you, evil. I appreciate your willingness to share your view regardless of how I come off. Skal, was I supposed to glean some sort of insult from that gibberish? If so, then "oh, snap you got me good!"...I guess.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

At least the Roe decision was a public one though.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Yorkville, New York, NY

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Yes Drew, very public and very rehashed. What I said was about the point of viability outside the womb.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

what a bunch of crap

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Back boneless bulshït Say yes I know its a baby say yes I know if I don't hurt it it will grow

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

I caught the mute to pink and cringed.

UndrWater @ almost 4 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

too

UndrWater @ almost 4 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

"moot"...now go fvck off, @sshole.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Cringe at a fvcking spelling mistake, but no reaction to someone advocating the murder of a defenseless baby, you fvcking hypocrite.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

*poke*

UndrWater @ almost 4 years ago

Southwood Riviera, Torrance, CA 90505

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Ball's in your court.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Springfield, MA , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

...or mouth.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Springfield, MA , United States

98d7101629a5e7bcbaca8c6c5bd9decc

you're going to need to ask for some more forgiveness soon. I still love you, though.

UndrWater @ almost 4 years ago

Cerritos, CA 90703, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

I know.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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