Congratulations to all our LGBT brothers and sisters on a great furtherance of their equal rights today, courtesy of the Supremes.
@ almost 4 years ago
Downtown West, Minneapolis, MN
kinda miss inex on a day like today.
@ almost 4 years ago
Rochester, MN 55901, USA
Since he's not here, can you describe the scene? Be descriptive.
@ almost 4 years ago
E 42nd St, New York, NY 10017
Inex can't be bothered today.
He and Tyrone are enjoying their special day privately.
@ almost 4 years ago
Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA
Do are the incest and bigamy laws moot?
Can a mother marry a daughter to avoid inheritance taxes?
@ almost 4 years ago
The right ruling but for the wrong reason.
@ almost 4 years ago
Arlington Heights, PA, USA
Arlington are you referring to the Prop 8 decision? Agreed, but the court prefers not to make a real decision if it doesn't have to.
@ almost 4 years ago
Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA
Bob as usual you are way off in left field. Ummm maybe right field is more appropriate
Ok so let me answer then: no. No.
Again, how so.
Aren't siblings, children and polygamists classes of people?
Sure they are. None of todays rulings affect those classes. None of todays rulings say that gay people can marry, either. In case you thought they did.
Since there was no ruling on gays marrying there is nothing that one could possibly relate to polygamists or children marrying adults.
So to sum up: you're off in right field.
(crickets crickets crickets)
Bob! Don't run away like a little bítch! Oh...wait, you ARE a little bítch. Well sorry, my bad, slappy.
Bob's a moron, Doc. The good news is that I don't think he's actually from here, just stationed here.
Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™
@ almost 4 years ago
Bush, LA 70431, USA
From where, Uranus?? Lol
So, we're calling names now, Dr. Bitch? Okay. I can go there, you fu(king retarded moron.
Incest doesn't only apply to children, you stupid (unt. I was very to clear to non-retards that mother/child marriage....
Shreveport, LA , United States
...was specific to prevent inheritance taxes. Now only a fu(king idiot, like yourself, Dr. Bitch would assume the child was a minor.
Liz, did you ever find the source of your 1/3 mil women raped bullsh!t lies?
Thank God I'm not from Louisiana! I'd have to kill myself if I was an inbred drooling idiot like Liz.
"FEMA money isn't from taxes"! You really should quit drinking the swamp/sewer water, Liz.
Please bitch. I owned you in both of those debates.
#1 The American Journal of Industrial medicine. And I corrected myself REPEATEDLY to say sexually assaulted.
#2 When talking about FEMA monies, you must specify if you mean FEMA flood insurance or
your buddy Bush's monstrosity that falls under homeland security and funded with tax $.
The fact remains though that every single thing you've ever bought in your life was paid for by TAXPAYERS. Once again, you're welcome.
Bob the child as a minor or not is completely irrelevant to my point, which is that todays decisions have no effect in making or taking away any marriage rights. At all. Got it, stupid?????
Liz, you ignorant inbred slut.
""I actually hauled dirt to the plaquemines levee rebuild after Katrina for an out of state contractor hired by... the army corps."
You still believe your flood insurance dollars went to pay the Army Corp of Engineers' contract to rebuild the plaquemines levee, Liz?
You swamp sucking dipsh!t.
You can keep "Correcting yourself" Liz. It seems to be a habit.
lol that's all you got you taxsucking government leech? I qualified for FEMA and did not apply... I received NO govt assistance. I worked on one FEMA funded levee project for about a month. You do the math... if you're capable. I paid the taxes that
FEMA paid me for that work... I can't think of a more responsible way of living through that situation... can you?
Reread that exchange... I was replying to h20 when I repeated his word. Rape. And when you got all anal about it, I corrected myself immediately. Why don't you try refuting the 1/3 sexually assaulted? Or is it that you CAN'T?
I saw what you're talking about... Woman!
YOU'VE BEEN WHITELASHED!
@ almost 4 years ago
Brunswick, OH, USA
"Dr" Evil, do you honestly believe that this decision somehow makes that train wreck of a daughter of yours any less of a mess? Her lifestyle is wrong and should not be condoned. This is the type sh1t that got Sodom and
@ almost 4 years ago
Vestal, NY , United States
Why do we call them sodomites...and not Gomorrites?
Were the chicks from Sodom just better at their trade?
Winder, GA 30680, USA
I don't have any lgbt brothers or sisters.....
... we all know what our PP's are for
A Benevolent Greedy Bastard
@ almost 4 years ago
Pendleton, IN, USA
And I don't think they need our heterosexual approval but thanks anyhow doc I appreciate it
I mean THEY appreciate it!
I don't know what I mean you know what I mean?
Is that it though? Are we at the limit? Or is there more? What could possibly be the next level? Let's try to get ahead of this one or are we at the absolute limit?
We have all the benefits on the table? all the spousal benefits right? Medical ,divorce rights child custody all that crap? What else is there? Openly gay boy Scout leaders?
Openly gay gym teachers in the shower with children? Is that the next step guys?
They weren't chicks, they were men. The cities were destroyed not only because of the f@gs, but also the societal act of condoning such behavior. That is the precise reason we have laws against f@g acts. Just another
Where is this heading?? Or have the Liberals taken us to the absolute limit?
are WE happy yet?
one of the end times' prophecies being fulfilled.
Example: an openly gay individual walks into the shower room at the school the health club whatever.. what is the protocol hippies?
We don't know, you tell us
Got that right Scragg!
Men laying with men and the fundamental transformation of the world's strongest nation.
We need to wait for an African American to come answer these questions. Judging by their voting records they should know they're the only ones paying attention
What are you talking about, pink? You cheat on your wife...with black trannies...that you PAY!!! That still makes you gay, you know?
@ almost 4 years ago
East Village, Kansas City, MO 64106
...or at least bi-curious...
Lakeland, MN, USA
Bob I see you have no retort for me, not even a mouthful of vile names! I feel left out...surely you can come up with something to equal the witty repartee of "cúnt!"
If he's still curious, he has more problems than I thought, Doc.
Did the court over turn a bipartisan law? Did the court over turn the California citizens vote? I guess if you can't get the votes or the law to go your way.....
John Galt... Bernie Is A Socialist
@ almost 4 years ago
Olmsted, OH, USA
Hey Doc kiss "I am" then you can be lesbians!!!
, what the hell is wrong with you Adam!
The court overturns bipartisan laws, when they are found unconstitutional. That is what they are for...they are the mechanism by which the tyranny of the majority is kept in check.
Add for the CA law...no, the court did not overturn that. They dismissed the suit.
And the other thirty states are safe.
The court did overturn DOMA. Unconstitutional. As it should be, as I thought from the start when Clinton signed it into law...it was like, wtf are you thinking!
Galt...currently only 12 states have legalized gay marriage. But just wait. Pretty soon it will be 48...Alabama and Tennessee will hold out until 3057.
Did you not know how many states have legalized gay marriage, or are you confused about how many states there are in the Union?
(cue Obama 57 states jokes)
FVCK YOU ALL
@ almost 4 years ago
Crestview, Sussex, WI 53089
you'd like that wouldn't you?
Harrison, IN, USA
The problem here, is that using the force of government to right a former misuse of government only serves to legitimize the original oppressive behavior. The sensible reaction to the tyranny of government interference in marriage, is to reject it.
et in Arcadia ego
@ almost 4 years ago
Concord, IN, USA
Get government out of marriage. Solve the problem.
@Arcadia - what about the tax implications and government benefits that are associated with marriage?
Would you removed them as well?
Yeah not really sure what your point is here Arcadia. If you are associating for states rights, both of yesterdays decisions are a victory for you. If instead you are saying that the tax break now conferred on the plaintiff in the DOMA case is
wrong and an interference of the government in marriage, I beg to differ. The government collects taxes, across the board. Married couples are recognized in different ways in some cases. In this case, the recognition is a tax break on estate taxes
How is this really government meddling in marriage? Really it's just a recognition of it. Legislation of marriage rights still belongs to the states.
(advocating, not associating, at the top of those last comments)
Does calling names bother you, Dr. Hypocrite?
How perfectly liberal of you!
It's telling that a person who revels in being called a camel toe would focus on the word, cúnt.
The SC ruling stated that a subset of people couldn't be treated differently by the Federal govt, Dr. Hypocrite.
Polygamists are a subset of people. Adult siblings, parents and children are also subsets of people.
The Federal Government in the Enabling Act of 1894 specifically singled out the subset of polygamists, and denied them the right to marry in accordance with the laws of their state.
Is this too difficult for you?
Bob, not going to repeat myself yet again.
If you had a legitimate point of any sort, trust me your buddies would be all over me...but no one is jumping on it.
Unfortunately, you are just plain wrong. Sorry.
Paul Clement, a respected attorney, former Solicitor General of the US, and a gentleman who frequently addresses the Supreme Court, found a relationship to polygamy, Dr. Hypocrite.
Are you really a lawyer?
(slaps forehead)...so what. Like I said if polygamists want marriage rights they'll have to take up their issue like gay folks did. Without marriage rights, the court rulings do not apply to them. Period.
I notice that you never skip a period Dr Evil that's what I dig about you. Yep women sure do know how to use their periods :-)
Wouldn't you just love to reach right through that phone and bïtch slap me?woman!!!
Polygamy is natural :-) women just haven't caught on yet
Actually that's one of the nicer things you've said to me Pinkie.
Also just for the record I've said many times that me and my husband need a wife (usually when I am spending half my weekend scrubbing floors and toilets and grocery shopping).
As long as I could treat a third party to our marriage as a slave, I'd be all up with it.
Also if that slave were a well hung dude that would be even better. Pink, still have your buddy Dave's phone number?
Oh the humanity
Thought you'd want a female, LGBT and all....
@ almost 4 years ago
Annandale, VA 22003, United States
Unless the hubby is into ??????????? (Dave)
Darn it I try to share a little of my life and it backfires on me.feel sorry for me! Don't make fun of me!
I just can't picture you working around the house doctor evil! Wait a minute, now I picture it... yeah you're naked
She's not working around the house, she's afraid of bugs
Hey a female would be fine too. Just sayin I wouldn't mind if it were a nice hunk of beefcake.
I used to do stuff around the house while naked, but after having kids that kind of ended. Go figure.
Pinkie I'll agree to stop making fun of you and Dave, and your half-size penis, if you stop with the camel toe stuff. Fair is fair...so choose one and live with your choice. Either way is fine by me.
I vote, keep camel toe,,,
Dave was an interlude, camel toe is forever
"... the state's prohibition of interracial marriage for this reason stands on the same footing as the prohibition of polygamous marriage, or incestuous marriage or the prescription of minimum ages at which people may marry..."
Paul outta Hemet
@ almost 4 years ago
Carson City, NV 89706, USA
That is from the argument made by by he Asst. AG of Virginia in Loving. It sounds oddly familiar. Where have I heard something similar?
I guess interracial marriage opened the door for polygamy and child brides, right Bob?
The end game is ending marriage all together. It's not love our so two gay people can get married. The destruction of the social pillars that make us what we are and what have driven our success.
@ almost 4 years ago
South Westnedge, Kalamazoo, MI
Heterosexual marriage made America great?
I always thought it was ambition and ingenuity.
Norcross, GA 30092, USA
I suppose the destruction of the social pillars of slavery and sexism were detrimental as well?
Duluth, GA 30097, USA
I'll lose the camel toe just tell me I have a beautiful côck
North Royalton, OH, USA
It's lovely, Mr. Pink!!!
No doubt my Mexican dad and Caucasian mom only got married to uproot tradition. I'm probably just the product of their desire to kill the concept of separate races.
Nah, just a one nighter gone bad,,,, :)
And you have a lovely vag :-)
this just got weird...
Northrup, Rochester, MN
Only just now??
^^^^ gets the camel toe vote.
Fredericksburg, VA 22408, USA
The government isn't idly "meddling" in marriage, Doc, it is balls deep in the marriage business. You cannot be married in church without a government license. Why? Because regulating marriage is wildly profitable for them.
I propose to get government completely out of marriage. Let people have personal contracts regarding the legal aspects of union, as they see fit, and get the state out of religious exercise.
We need to look at the contractual union and the religious ceremony separately, and remove government from both. When problems arise, accept private arbitration, end "family courts". No government is necessary in any facet of these relationships.
Welcome to immoral America where we will become more immoral, confused breeding a generation of immorality and confusion that will eventually turn this nation into something none of us will be proud of. Soon the polygamous will want their rights,
@ almost 4 years ago
James Madison, VA, USA
@Black Conservative - how does homosexuality affect the country negatively?
then the child molesters will claim they are a race like the gays and make it a civil rights issue. Where will it stop. It won't because we have opened up a Pandoras box. Evil and confusion will breed itself.
You may laugh and say that will never happen well some time back no one would have imagined a gay marriage becoming legal. It will not stop. Evil distort the mind eventually and we will call what is right wrong and what is wrong right.
AIDS would be a good example of how homosexuality negatively affected the country.
Racer, there have been study after study by government, private entities local and foreign that show that families with mother and father produce the most emotionally and psychlogically healthy children.
I thought you would have seen AIDS as God's justice for homosexuality.
A plague sent to smite those who go against God's law.
@Black Conservative -I agree that children are best served by being raised by two parents.
So your only problem with homosexuality is the adoption of children?
God does not bring it people bring it on themselves. God is the father telling us dont touch the fire or you will get burned. We are the disobedient children that so it anyway then get mad at the parent foe being so mean.
I'd you agree with that then why approve of such a unhealthy life style?
If you agree....
Are you equally vocally opposed to the high percentage of children being raised by single mothers?
What percentage of homosexual couples have children?
I wouldn't think it's very high.
I personally know quite a few homosexual couples... both male and female.
I only know of one that has children.
(A man who was married & had two kids previously).
I think that consenting adults should be allowed to make their own lifestyle decisions add long as they don't hurt anyone else's life, liberty, or personal property.
I disagree with attempts to legislate morality.
I have always been concerned about single parents even more now as an adult who was raised in a single parent home. when you legalize gay marriage that is legislating morality.
No it's not.
It's the government removing itself from the equation.
It's allowing consenting adults to make their own lifestyle choices.
Choices that don't harm anybody else's life, liberty, or personal property.
BC if you are so concerned for three children then you should be working vigorously to outlaw divorce. That's a lot of the problem right there, creating single parent households. You should encourage everyone to marry.
Arcadia, I completely agree with you...in fact I suggested this very thing on vm quite a long time ago: govt should just provide a registration type civil union...leave marriages to the churches if people want that. But my reason was different...
My reason was that having priests etc.register with the state in order to provide a state-issued marriage certificate is a violation of the 1st Amendment. Would you agree? Seems a stronger argument to me.
I'm not a fan of homosexuality but DOMA should never have been imposed. It was NOT Constitutional. They simply should have given them Civil Unions and left it alone. Now we have this hodge-podge one state says no while another says yes.
@ almost 4 years ago
Huntsville, AL 35806, USA
That previous discussion is, I think, still around. Maybe I should go bump it...
@bc - those parenting studies have well documented flaws discussed on here before.
no conclusions can be drawn from them on fitness of same sex couples as parents
How many lives were lost to AIDS by infected homosexuals selling their blood before AIDS could be detected?
Were infected gays identified to prevent this loss of life?
I don't blame gays, but I do blame those who allowed them to be anonymous. To infect the blood supply.
To prevent stigmatizing gays, govt allowed the loss of life.
Actually, yes gays were targeted early on in the AIDS epidemic and were prevented from giving blood. I was too, because one of the guys I slept with turned out to be bi and slept with at least one guy before I came along.
So yeah, as soon as they figured put how AIDS was transmitted, blood donation rules were changed. Of course!
stop that, Evil.
Bob really likes his version of history.
it keeps him in his happy place.
Well Bob is entitled to his opinion, of course. Not his own facts.
but he wants both
I've said this before but I'll say it again... All this dichotomy stems from the fact that we never were intended to be a completely secular government.
Schoolcraft, MI 49087, USA
That's a bunch of bullshít right there, Kzoo.
Our government was fully intended to be secular, in order to provide the people with the ability to worship as they please. If the government adopts a religion, how can the people be free to worship freely?
Sorry I don't talk English gooder.
Doc, religious freedom can in fact coexist with a state religion (although this obviously would be strictly unconstitutional here). Good examples are Denmark and UK.
Northwest Harbor, NY, USA
Drew, I hear you...but glad it's not so here. Seriously, can you imagine??? You being Jewish, me being atheist, we would both be hung upside down and shoot like Stalin.
Nothing about what I said equals state religion. I'm fact the very establishing of a state religion is the of the new things that WERE actually intended by founding fathers.
I'm =in. We were never meant to be fully secular. It was intended to be neutral. But not secular.
There is a difference. Not to infringe on the rights of the minority or all and maintain the government for the people and by the people. The government is suppose to reflect the people.
Doc, I would argue that the state need not have any interaction with marriage. We're free to enter into contracts without their interference, why should a contract to merge two peoples finances together be any different?
And yet government puts itself squarely into the equation. Why? What benefit comes from them controlling how this particular type of contract is structured and applied?
Would marriage contracts suffer or benefit from diversity? Why can't we have a temporal aspect associated with marriage? One year, multi year, till children reach majority? Why does government stipulate till death do us part?
Could it be because they benefit greatly from also controlling the dissolution of these contracts? Wouldn't a civil court serve, why must the government have a separate court just for divorce, and family law? Marriage is just a contract, after all.
Why does it receive such different treatment under the law? Who benefits? Families? The two original parties? Or government itself? Where is the rational, overriding need for different, special treatment of these particular contracts?
Skal anything that goes against your world view you will find some minority report to support what you believe.
Arcadia, ok well I see your point. I would have no problem with having marriage be just another contractual relationship. But then you would have to carry it with you everywhere in case you needed proof of that arrangement...like if your wife
was in the hospital and you wanted to visit her. Or she didn't have a will and you wanted to prove that you should have the house she bought in her own namer before you married...etc. etc. Registration with the state has some advantages regarding
proof of the relationship. Like registering your house or your car (I live on Torrens property, which is registered). What if there is a fire and your contract is burned, etc?
I'm a live and let live dude, but where it crosses the line is when it infringes on the 1st amendment, the general Gov does not have the power to force a church to perform a same sex marriage.
DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD
@ almost 4 years ago
They don't have to
@ almost 4 years ago
Coralville, IA 52241, USA
Not yet, but they're many advocates to force there church the perform the ceremony.
Plus with all the celebration about there victory, it opens the door for polygamist, and its Islamist lifestyle to have many wifes, are you ready to tolerate it?
It has absolutely 0 to do with me..so of polygamist somehow convince everyone that lifestyle should be recognized and given.benefits so be it. Whats to tolerate? How does that effect me?
What lifestyle are the muslims in or country living now? Why are we fighting an.islamic lifestyle. Is everyone going to have to become polygamist in.this downward spiral brought on.by legitimizing gay marriage
It not about you, its about Gov power at the point of the Gov gun forcing compliance.
Franklin, KY 42134, USA
Its the next logical step, there going to say that there religious civil rights are being infringed, so the progress continues, you are a progressive and like the progressives ordering you into compliance at the point of the Gov gun.
Forcing compliance of what?
Its not about me, but you asked me would i tolerate it. I responded, why wouldn't i tolerate it
Churches are not forced to do many things on account of freedom of religion. Right now, many Catholic churches refuse Communion to gays. No one is telling them they have to perform that religious rite for gays.
IMO refusing communion is worse than refusing to marry a gay couple. Why: marriage does not require participation of the church. You can get married outside the church. Communion, not so much.
Like I said, I'm a live and let live dude, really don't care what you do in the privacy of your home, of you want to take your self out of the gene pool by burgering another man where he evacuates his bowels, so be it, or if you want more than one wi
wife, really don't care.
Good. I don't see forcing churches to marry gays as being even close to being on the horizon
So you want a church to be forced at the point of a gun to give communion.
What of the the rights of the minister, the gay person rights are put before the ministers rights.
No i don't. And no they won't. Is that what you got from our comments
Participation in the church is accepting and following the teaching of Jesus,its voluntary,the gay person does not have to go to that church.
You can't say that the Gov won't, its in Gov interest to.
You can't say the government will, either. However, that narrative fits your worldview, so you are essentially arguing just that.
There is no evidence that three government is about to shred the right to freely practice religion, so the slippery
slope argument you so love just doesn't work in this instance.
You just refuse to see it, my view on organized religion is the same as government, don't trust neither, they are both necessary evils and only not a threat to liberties if kept in the smallest form.
My Faith does not mean to blindly follow, and do
As told, just like I don't blindly follow an elegant speaker telling me that he'll heal the world with legislation.
How is religion necessary?
Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA
If there was no religion no one would ever feel guilty about anything.
Iowa City, IA 52246, USA
If there was no religion we wouldn't exist..
Please forgive my delusional ignorance for thinking we'd be better off without religion.
I refuse to see that your view of religion and government are one in the same??? Yeah, no doubt. In fact James Madison felt that government sullied religion...and religion sullied government. Thus the two should be kept separate.
We only need to look at the worst of the worst to see why faith in God is necessary. Look at the ghetto and the gang bangers. If they abided by God's law instead of man's law you wouldn't have the killing, the single
moms, and the crime. It's right in front of your faces yet you refuse to see.
How on earth are we gonna fit all this stuff into Sharia beliefs? Just don't see how it will work. We know how our radical Muslim "friends" feel about gay people.....
No Time Valley
@ almost 4 years ago
Las Vegas, NV 89178, USA
Oh scraggs if only it were that convenient
Were the crusadors not following gods law?
The booty raping priest. Not following gods law?
We only need to look at the worst of the worst to see that religion is evil. Look at the 9/11 perpetrators, Al Quaida, and so many other motivated by religion and carried out by religious extremists.
Of course not. Because everything good is gods law. And everything bad is mans law. And no matter how godly you claim to be if you take young booty, you are noise outside gods law.
If these people were not religious, they would not have carried out these heinous crimes and killed thousands.
Apples and oranges. Can I simply condemn all government because of the actions of Stalin and Mao. I didn't live during the crusades. We don't understand the climate of the times. Maybe they were wrong, but regardless the
Not sure where murder has been an acceptable law anywhere. But even the "godly" murder. Matter fact most off those that murder the most murder in.the name of some god
crusades are not what Christianity is all about. Without Christianity people are rudderless and we are surrounded by it. One would have to be in a coma to not see it, which unfortunately is the case for many.
The irony in all this is the murderer that mans law is supposedly condoning will go to.heaven if he believes and repents. But thats not condoning. Jailing them for life or giving the death penalty is condoning.. how convenient
IMO the world would be a much more peaceful, lawful place if people would just stop believing in pretend gods...and then perpetrate violence against others who don't believe in the same pretend stuff they do.
And that is the beginning and end to why I'm not buying that b.s. If that god exist. You can have him.
Over 100 million civilians were murdered last century by godless governments. Your numbers are completely wrong. Evil, how many murders are committed in this country due to religion? I would be correct to argue that
99% of murders in this country are due to a lack of faith. You are perpetuating a myth that never was true.
Don, you make it sound as if I can murder and simply say I repent and I will go to Heaven. A true believer in Christ will not murder. A murderer is not going to fool God.
^This guy is a ####ing lampoon trying to make us look bad.
Sussex, WI 53089, United States
I apologize if I've wronged you, WV. Thank you, for helping me see the error of my ways and making me a better Christian!
The 10 commandments are there for a reason, without them it would be Hell on earth, or Chicago.
You aren't a Christian scraggley, look at your mocking name, you are a fake piece of ####.
The very first thing you said when you "came back" was joking about Christ being a homosexual, you have done nothing but lie about yourself and everyone else since.
You are the most anti-christian here, you make racer look like Saul of Tarsus.
IMO homosexuality is a voluntary opt out of the gene pool, so you loose your immorality by not procreating and there family looses for his sin.
Now here you are, reveling in your godlessness, making stupid strawman arguemnts riddles with fallacies and holes such as no true Scottsmen. Making people think that there is no God just because your words are so weak
and set up to mock HIM.
So, that is you Josh. I'm sorry I said those things about your family and hope you will find it in your heart to forgive and forget. I imagine there is a lot of hurt there and it will take some time.
How convenient. Are any murders attributed to god. The ones in his name maybe?
He's going to heaven
I'm like the 4th f_cking person you have called Josh in under a week, make up your f_ckin mind you God mocking piece of sh_t.
I will personally enjoy watching you burn in hell for your sins.
Does a Christian enjoy watching others suffer?
You don't think that man should go to Heaven, Don? That's what Christianity is all about. None of us are perfect. We all need Christ's sacrifice to cleanse us of our sins. I imagine Heaven is so wonderful that the events
of pain and suffering in this world are insignificant.
I don't need hopes of an imaginary dreamland to not do bad things. I'm not down with a place that doesn't differentiate good a bad things done. You can have that god.
Does a Christian enjoy watching people suffer?
Go check some of the Christian cereal killers
Thus his trust in government is explained.
It's not "...hopes of an imaginary dreamland to not do bad things." Christians do good things because it's the right thing to do and they want to do good. You become a better person by doing good.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.
As am atheist I do good things because I want to, because doing three right thing feels good. Who taught me this? My parents, my teachers, my friends, my kids...by example or by showing me the fallout from doing the wrong thing.
My sense of right and wrong doesn't depend on some make believe man in the sky that causes me to fear what will happen if I screw up.
Serial killers are satanists by deed alone. They definitely aren't Christians, they're religious. You will know them by their fruits (Mat 7:15-20).
Just because you don't have Faith, it doesn't give you the power to not allow people of Faith to practice it in the public square, the establishment clause just prohibits a State sponsored religion, we still have the free practice of religion.
Or lack of religion.
You are an atheist because: For every one that doth evil hateth the light and cometh not to the light, that his works may not be reproved (John 3:20).
Evil, do you please the loved ones in your life because you fear their reprisals? I think you desire to please them because you love them like Christians love God.
Dontai, you are correct, congratulations. What's your point? I didn't daddy you couldn't believe your silly beliefs or practice your silly practices. No one is saying that. I was just relating that my lack of belief does not in and of itself make
me a bad person. I am good or bad, regardless of what I believe.
And by the way, Dontai, you just proved to yourself that no one is going to try to force the church to perform gay marriages. We do in fact have the ability to freely practice religion. So if your religion has bigotry as one of it's tenets, great.
Go practice bigotry with a warm fuzzy security, bolstered by the other bigots that share your narrow worldview. Have at it!
Scraggley if you are implying I worship my husband, that's pretty rich. I'm gonna tell him that tonight so we can both have a good laugh!
(He would never have married me if I was that sort of person!)
They prohibit payer in the school, so they are infringing on the free practice of religion, what's to stop them from forcing the church to perform the ceremony using equality as the excuse,all it took was being offended to take prayer out of school.
Nashville, TN 37209, USA
Your the bigot, evil, or you would not have a problem with christianity, your party has been at war with Christians and because they don't except Gov as the all mighty God, but as an evil entity what is necessary and has to be kept on a short leash.
They don't inhibit prayer in schools. A kid can bow their head and pray at any time. They inhibit the school leading prayer.
@DONT - Kids are forbidden from praying at school?
Atlanta, GA 30315, USA
Do you have an example of a kid being punished for praying at school?
High Point, Atlanta, GA
Thompson's Station, TN 37179, USA
Three ruling was about school officials conducting a prayer etc.at a graduation ceremony, not about any one individual praying. FAIL
And my freedom to disparage religion is at least as important as your freedom to practice your religion. This is what Americas is all about! Just like you are free to spew dumb crap on vm, you are free to have your dumb ideas about religion.
And might I say, I completely support your right to say stupid things, to call me a bigot for looking down on religion, and for worshipping pretend deities.
Mt Pleasant, TN 38474, USA
Never said that, I don't force God on you,but three atheists are constiently telling people of Faith where they can practice there beliefs, you do not have a right not to be offended,even a Chaplin in the military can't have the Bible on his desk.
Church it up as much as you want in private business. But if you take public funds, there'll be no... "respecting an establishment of religion".... by government employees.
Church it up dudes!
Murray Hill, New York, NY
Carson City, NV 89701, USA
Sorry, D. Your last link doesn't hold up. It is just more playing of the religion card.
H20 - Thumbs up for the one and only appropriate response. I left myself wide open for that.
Black Conservative - I already posted the part of the Loving argument that was exactly the same as today's slippery slope nonsense. Do I also need to quote the part of the argument from Loving re: the science behind how children will suffer in...
...mixed race homes? It spoke of the children of such homes as victims of their parents poor choices. Sound familiar?
I know it was resolved, but there should of been nothing to resolve.
Just Luke the kid in WV who stood up to a teacher over wearing a NRA shirt, teacher freaked cops called, he faced a year in jail but out was dismissed today.
Decatur, AL, USA
Kzoo - Neutral = secular.
D - What was resolved was the misrepresentation of the situation which you perpetuated. No one was threatened with arrest for praying. You want us to believe they were. That is playing the religion card.
unkempt kunt, are you familiar with the No True Scotsman logical fallacy? Or rather, are you familiar with the name for the logical fallacy you employed earlier?
Dontai the difference is discernible by awaking yourself the question, is this an official government action or institution? If yes, then they can't do anything tending to favor one religion over others. If no, they can do what they please.
(Asking not awaking)
Schools were long ago determined to be government organizations since they are taxpayer funded and basically are tasked with indoctrinating our children.
Since when are schools supposed to be indoctrinating children? Where do you all see this leading to? It ends up with the complete destruction of morality. You need look no further than the ghetto to see what happens to a
people in moral decline. Poverty, despair, and a people dependent on government. We all know how all powerful governments treat their subjects. If you do not see the error of your ways and turn to God you will condemn
your children to the whims of a tyrannical government run by elites. These elites are bent on your destruction. The libertarian party is not going to stop them. No one is going to stop them, except the return of Jesus.
Repent now, and be saved. Open your eyes to the evil around you.
For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.
That's nice scrags. You enjoy that, ok?
Where do you see this society headed?
Athol, MA 01331, United States
Towards more civil liberty.
Lakeland, MN 55043, USA
Seems very shortsighted, unrealistic and naieve.
more civil liberty?
been observing any laws lately?
you know Patriot Act, NDAA 2012, Drone Use, NSA spying,,,
Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY
How did Rome fall?
"Those who don't study history, tend to repeat it.."
The moral decay of society....
Apparently this isn't a liberal concern.
Can complete liberty and morality coexist?
Tucker, GA 30084, USA
Yes. God gave us free will in order that we may choose to love him and want to live morally.
But, isn't enforcing YOUR morality upon someone who isn't harming anyone else's life, liberty, or personal property... restricting THEIR liberty?
Christians do not seek to force their morality on anyone. To force morality on anyone is not Christian. Anti-christians are forcing their false morality on us. It is their false morality that damages all of society. It
harms all of society.
John Adams said: "It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue."
and "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to
to the government of any other."
Founding father Charles Carroll said: "Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime & pure, [and] which denounces
against the wicked eternal misery, and [which] insured to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."
It's like I have been saying, this is all a ruse to destroy freedom. Fulfillment of Bible prophecy. We know how this ends because the Bible tells us so. Accept Christ into your hearts.
not sure about the religion portion or choices offered.
But I can find no human society that survived any length of time after acceptance of homosexuality as a norm.
Can anyone point to anything that says homosexuality is morally correct?
If it is, shouldn't we be encouraging our children to at least try it? (like broccoli)
Shouldn't we insist the world nations accept it and embrace it?
H2O - Do or did you encourage your children to try out every religion? I don't mean are/where you open to the idea since you brought up active encouragement. If not, is it because you find other or all religions immoral?
Reno, NV 89511, USA
I have no moral objections to religion but I wouldn't actively encourage my kids to participate in that lifestyle choice. No moral objections to gun ownership but I wouldn't actively encourage it.
That's a fuçking stupid argument, h2o
Rochester, MN 55901, United States
1: paul, yes I do & did encourage my children to at least look at, study, &/or attend other religions or viewpoints. It is not my place to tell them what to or not to believe.
personally I looked at 4-5 religions, before I decided my faith.
And only because it was the closer not the absolute to my beliefs.
Skal, how so?
If you find homosexuality to be morally acceptable, than why is it off limits to your children?
Did I ever say it was off limits?
It's a stupid question because whether or not someone is homosexual has nothing to do with morals, nor is it something you try "like broccoli".
The idea "trying" homosexuality is why I'm convinced your born that way. Anyone who thinks people can.try it, or decide to be it might be gay themselves, because as a straight man the idea of trying dick is disgusting. Also on.the male end you
Must be aroused to preform the sexual act. If you can arouse yourself from a male body you are homosexual. No matter what you try to tell yourself
I've went in circles with someone about this before. Have you tried dick? Do you want to try Dick? Why would you think others would choose it over pussy? They are obviously wired different than i am
so in what successful society is homosexuality morally okay?
here's a helping hand, cannibalism is acceptable in some cultures, should we be okay with that also?
The point don, is if you find homosexuality morally okay, why wouldn't you expose your children to it?
They are exposed to it. They are around the same sex everyday. I think they can figure out if they are attracted to them
And if that were the case, i wouldn't discourage it.
If out were morally wrong to be with women, could you make yourself be with men?
What type of exposure is it you are thinking of, h2o? Telling them who they should and shouldn't be attracted to?
I don't care what orientation your kids are...when has that ever worked?
We are all exposed to homosexuality every day we go out in public, in the same way we are exposed to heterosexuality. Not like you would show your kid a porno, then encourage them to go see if they can do that! I don't encourage my kids to be of
any particular sexuality, not do any parents I know. It's something they have to figure out for themselves.
@Don - I remember that thread.
There's nothing natural about homosexuality. If it were "natural" homosexuals would be able to reproduce, but then they wouldn't be homosexuals because one of them would have female parts.
ability to reproduce is not a benchmark for defining natural
Kutzky Park, Rochester, MN
So it's natural to pass your genes to offspring so that they may commit genetic suicide by being homosexual? Obviously homosexuality is a disorder.
@Scraggley -why are you opposed to two consenting adults engaging in behavior that doesn't harm anyone else's life, liberty, or property?
What of Occam's razor, Skal. Isn't the simplest explanation usually true? Isn't homosexuality more than likely the result of gender confusion which often arises after molestation, same sex sexual contact, etc.?
yes, scrags. that is natural. that's the whole point of natural selection: certain traits decrease chance of successfully reproducing.
Zumbrota, MN 55992, USA
At this point the homosexual agenda is accomplishing its stated purpose to undermine the family and society. Why do you think it is being thrust upon children in elementary schools?
Occam's razor fails often in biology, scrags.
besides, the whole molestation, same sex contact thing is full of holes that don't stand up to scrutiny - like the very large proportion with none of the above.
That is not how natural selection works, skal. What benefits does homosexuality confer? How does homosexuality make that organism better able to pass on homosexuality. Same sex contact does explain many cases of
H2O - Kudos. I too checked out all the major religions before realizing the notion that something had to be found was wrong. But all I did was pick the wrong example. The point is that no one encourages their children to dabble in every morally...
homosexuality, but the crux of my argument was actually gender confusion caused by events such as molestation and same sex contact.
...acceptable endeavor. No one takes their kid to every job, every organization, etc. No one feels obligated to take their kid to Peruvian throat singing lessons out of an obligation born from not objecting to it morally.
Skal already touched on the bigger flaw of it being something one tries.
Reminds of when my cousin came out and his mom rented gay porn to understand it. I should note this is my uncle's ex. Not my blood relative.
that's exactly how natural selection works.
natural selection works on populations, not individuals.
Red Wing, MN, USA
How can natural selection work on a population without working on an individual? The enormous fallacies of your argument aside, what are homosexuals being naturally selected for...extinction?
Scrags you need to read up on this topic before posting anything else. Seriously you are embarrassing yourself right now.
Skäl I am not sure I disagree with your statement re Occam's razor. I think in biology things are too empirical, hence we don't really have a true answer...and hence things can seem more complicated than they actually are. That being said, Occam's
razor works to refute scrags'Aston anyway. Simpler answer is that homosexuality simply arises naturally in a predictable percentage of the human population, the same as it does in many animal populations. More complicated is that some outside
factor has to occur to cause someone to become gay: what things or things? Just once or with frequency? How frequent? How is it that a stable percent of the population is gay?
Aston = argument
(how did Swype even go there???)
I'm not here to teach you basic biology.
that's how natural selection works, plain and simple.
Evil is absolutely right... your misunderstanding is embarrassing.
Captain Caveman doesn't understand science? Color me amazed.
You're absolutely right about one thing, Skal. You're not here to teach me anything. While animals may use sexual acts to establish dominance and hierarchy they are not homosexual in the sense you are using the word.
Trenton, WI, USA
Is it a stable percentage of the population though? That'd be *very* difficult to figure out seeing that these things are private, and have very different levels of acceptability throughout the ages.
Certainly it's existed throughout the history of mankind though.
I'm not really sure where I'm going with that but carry-on!
evil, ,, ever seen an aged homosexual animal?
nope, the species kills them young.... bad argument ...
ahhh,,, come on, someone go argue the cannibalism topic.
Where did you find that at? There are several articles on animals having gay mates for life..not finding where they kill them off early
I think what you were going for is if homosexuality is proven normal because of the animal kingdom so is cannibalism.
They just don't procreate. I have never seen anything indicating "the species kills them young."
H2O got a link or is that just your worldview escaping it's confines and pretending to be fact?
oh, , please,,,, show me another species that has gay partners for life
there aren't many animals that mate for life to begin with.
14th Ave SW, Rochester, MN 55902
Dacula, GA 30019, USA
Auburn, GA 30011, USA
The animals are simply adhering to their instincts/programming in the absence of opposite sex partners. Really nothing extraordinary or unexpected.
Except females are present
@scraggley - you're wrong.
Loganville, GA 30052, USA
" Animals that live a completely homosexual life can also be found. This occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. Four to five percent of the couples are homosexual."
In the midst of a normal population of birds. .. exist lifelong homosexual couples.
You've used birds in support of your view. For the sake of argument I'll agree that 4 to 5% of geese and ducks are gay. These animals also imprint. Imprinting is a very powerful phenomenon among geese and ducks.
It is far from beyond the realm of possibilities that imprinting, a mating for life instinct and lack of females due to competition or other could interact resulting in homosexual ducks and geese. It is a natural
explanation which coincides somewhat similarly to homosexuality in humans.
" When you see a colony of black-headed gulls, you can be sure that almost every tenth pair is lesbian. "
There is no lack of suitable opposite sex partners.
The animals are naturally gay.
For their entire lifetime.
1900-1964 Georgia 124, Lithonia, GA 30058
Can you be certain they are gay. Are they eating each others boxes, or something? Could it not be an avian version of the mammalian behavior observed with female elephants and lionesses? Seems like people see what they
Springfield, MA , United States
want to see.
" These pairs of female birds exhibit all the behaviors of close pair bonding, and engage in nesting, bill kissing, and a variety of other albatross breeding behaviors."
" Laysan albatrosses are normally highly defensive when they sense intruders— indicating that the acceptance of another female is true pair bonding."
" The same-sex partnerships may last as long as traditional pairs—in one case, a whopping nineteen years. In New Zealand, a same-sex pair of even larger royal albatrosses were recently found tending a nest together."
They seem pretty fůcking gay to me.
Females of all species typically cooperate in raising offspring. Nothing homosexual about it. Simply "scientific" anthropomorphism.
Besides that, Jacob imprints on Bella's daughter and how gay is THAT movie?
Please. I know Team Edward when I see it.
Are you talking about that disney movie when the ducks follow the airplane?
Had to search Jacob and Bella. Twilight came up. Sorry didn't see that or the duck movie. Don't watch any filth out of hollywood or on tv.
Vampires probably aren't real anyway, no need to panic scraggs. It's only gay if you believe.
Scraggs have you ever fantasized about fondling a dick?
Something bothering you, Don? Bored? Trying to pick a fight?
Not really.. I asume the answer is no, and neither have i. That's why it's easy for me to draw the conclusion that very few if anyone chooses to be attracted to the same sex. And conversely be able to switch that attraction.
I would imagine telling that person they have to be with a woman would be the same a telling one of us we ate supposed to be with a man.
You can call it unnatural, a sickness, a disease, whatever. But the fact remains that human attraction can't be forced one way or the other. So I'm not quite understanding what you wasn't gays to do. Switch or just be asexual?
The attraction might be real. However, it is obviously environmental. But, what if a man molested you as a child and blurred the line between hetero and homosexuals? What if he was someone you trusted? What if a mentor
whom you looked up to as a big brother or even a father made repeated sexual advances towards you? Are the kids Sandusky molested more are less likely to be gay?
Might a child or a young man be more open to homosexual relationships after such events, especially living in a society where it is encouraged and children are exposed and indoctrinated at a young age?
What about the majority of gay which have not been molested? I understand you can't wrap your mind around how someone becomes gay, but most gays say they were not molested.
Also, what about the effects especially on youth identifying as gay when it is discouraged. How is that the better path?
Though I vehemently disagree that the majority of gays weren't molested or subjected to a homosexual experience during a vulnerable time in their lives, whether it be childhood or young adulthood, for the sake of
Jesus fücking Christ!!!
argument lets suppose that is true. I say the remaining cases of homosexuality result from some other type of gender confusion due to an absent father figure, domineering mother or combination of both.
Here's something to think about, Don. If homosexuality is a psychological disorder as I claim then shouldn't there be other symptoms of that disorder? As a black man was there ever that white kid who hung around you and
your buddies and even though he had been raised by whites and around whites his whole life, he spoke with a distinctive black/white hybrid accent? Wouldn't some of those kids have decided that they were born black rather
than white if it were an option? Homosexuals speak with a lisp and often imitate the sex they feel they more identify with because rather than identity confusion they are suffering from gender confusion.
Actually i speak very proper and it's probably because that's how my mother and father speak. Also that languge pattern is developed in the exact same way southern.accents, whatever that is they speak in louisiana, etc. the people who talk that way
Don't even realize it. However, you can take speech classes and correct that speech pattern, or get around people who model property speech for you.
"Homosexuals speak with a lisp"...really. I am embarrassed by your incredible ignorance, assuming you actually believe that.
Being gay is about being attracted to the same sex. They are not faking arousal for the same sex, and they are not faking the desire for intimacy (non sexual) with the same sex. You have as much as admitted that, and if you can't i question your
And really, homosexuality is just the far opposite end of the spectrum, heterosexuality being the other. Most people lie somewhere in between, but more towards one end than the other. Some lie very near the middle (bi).
Sanity, because you somejow mnemosyne you can asses sometimes feeling and emotions better than they can. I also find it odd that gays would collaborate to cover up the mass molestation going on that's turning them gay. One day maybe you will meet a
Gay person face to face and be able to have a why are you gay talk. Which again.leads me back to have you ever wanted to.play with another mans dick. You are aroused by women not only sexually, but drawn to intimacy. You could not fathom wanting to
Do that with a man, but when a gay person says thr opposite you say they.are lying. What exactly do they win in that scenario. More dick? To cover up molestation? And if they are not lying what exactly are they supposed to do, be asexual? Really, re
Please answer. What do you expect them to do, if you are right. All.go the shrinks and try to turn not gay? Pray it away? Find the cure? Really think about it a minute. What is the next step
Really? No gay people change their speech and mannerisms? That's up to them what they do so long as they understand their lifestyle is not natural nor normal and should not be forced onto society. Many will get better
Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States
and be able to experience the greatest things this world has to offer like communion with God, family, and children. Whether they know it or care to know it they are being cheated.
How are you harmed by two consenting adults engaging in an activity that doesn't harm anyone else's life, liberty, or personal property?
Summerville, GA 30747, USA
It might be wise to drastically increase the punishment for pedophilia rather than giving the slaps on the wrists they do today.
Im not talking about speach. As i said, speach is something that can be easily changed. Sexual orientation is not. How did i go through all that and what you got from it was " really, gays don't change their speech and mannerisms
How many gay people change from being gay? To hell with a mannerism or speech. That stuff your pushing is not working, not changing people from being gay, and causing suicides especially in gay kids. That's went i asked what next
Obviously you are not willing to look at the situation as it is. You would rather create this fantacy reality where no one is really gay, and they can just stop whenever they want
Just like you could convert to dick if you wanted. I know it would be impossible for me to switch. You know some of these pray the Gary away camps are getting banned right
Lets see if the app. Work to cure gay?
A bunch of gays lying about harm done trying to change. Why lie? Don't know. But it must be there well thought out attack on morality
I know this means nothing to you, because you've made up your mind. But, you should at least do some investigating on the claims you make about gays
I was referring to Evil who claimed that some gays don't deliberately change their speech and mannerisms. I read and addressed your comments as well. Pray the gay away might work better if society wasn't inundated with
the homosexual agenda. Should we ban AA because of the high rate of recedivism? Are those with a shoe fetish born that way? There is a psychological phenomenon occurring that no one wants to understand. Pedophiles
typically can't be cured. Should their behavior be condoned and encouraged? As far as the suicide rate, I fought it's as prevalent as it's portrayed among gays. I would guess that suicidal subjects not only have a host
of problems, but also poor coping skills and a poor support system.
I claimed that "some gays don't deliberately change their speech and mannerisms"???
I don't believe I claimed anything except that you are embarrassingly stupid, ignorant or both for your actual, quoted assertion.
Actually I just asserted that you are ignorant scrags. Forgive my overreaching!
Homosexuality= no victims
Consensual sex=no victims
that is the difference.
The homosexual agenda:
Let people be with who makes them happy. It's not hurting anyone.
The anti homosexual agenda:
Make them realize they are sick, and there urges are unnatural. They need to be cured.
Cured of something that makes them happy and hurts no one.
...and play god, by deciding how others should feel, think, speak, act...and deciding who is sinful.
Well they god it straight fron god evil. So it's not their fault they are just following gods will and trying to keep them from hell by letting them know they are the same as pedophiles
I never said they had to be cured. Actually, I said that was up to them. In light of the available evidence I refuse to see homosexuality for anything than the psychological disorder that it is and therefore will not
Does anyone else ever wonder about the twelve apostles? Seems like a pretty cozy little group of guys. I'm just sayin'....
@ almost 4 years ago
Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA
Yeah, drinking all that wine. No women. Hmmmm
Midway, Elyria, OH 44035
Yeah, it's a psychological disorder, it's not me being judgmental or anything lololol
If by judgmental you mean considering all the facts and determining the truth, then yes I am being judgmental. Besides, there is no sin in being judgmental, only hypocritical.
Judgmental in that I'm not swayed by feelings, consensus, or the feelings of others.
Your so called facts are not factual, to start. Many are either debunked theories or are just outright false. Second, you take what may be factual for a few people and, without rhyme not reason, blithely apply it to each and every member of an
entire class. Third, you select a few facts or partial truths and use them to inform your judgments, while purposefully ignoring the big picture and/or facts that don't fit your preconceived notion of the truth. In short, you decide what you want
the"truth" to be, then you doggedly stick to anything that comports with that view.
Not swayed by feelings? Lets just drop that little fantasy - this is the entire basis for your opinions.
Brilliant explanation of your beliefs...bravo.
("I know you are but what am I")...brilliant retort scrags.
A lot of times it's true, though.
I'll start. Elton John umm. Anderson Cooper. Umm hmm I'll get back to later.
Sayville, NY, USA
Rock Hudson. Jodi Foster. Ellen Degeneres. Neil Patrick Harris.
That Elmo guy, Hitler, Sandusky...
Those would be your favorites
look scrag, et all...
homosexual behavior has won, it is the new moral level of the country. You had damn well better accept it or else face prison time.
You don't have to like it, but you'd better shut the fück up and do as you're told.
Blessed are you when men revile you, and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely, on account of Me. Rejoice, and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets who
who were before you (Matthew 5:11-12).
But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and will persecute you, delivering you to the synagogues and prisons, bringing you before kings and governors for My name’s sake (Luke 21:12).
Remember the word that I said to you, “A slave is not greater than his master.” If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. These things I have spoken to you,
that you may be kept from stumbling. They will make you outcasts from the synagogues; but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God (John 15:20; 16:1-2).
“And these things they will do, because they have not known the Father, or Me” (John 16:3).
Rejoice, brother. Our Lord's return nears.
sounds like what's happening to gays.
@ almost 4 years ago
Cerritos, CA, USA
I suppose...if homosexuality weren't a sin and homosexuals were actually persecuted.
Is adultery a sin?
Homosexuals were not previously persecuted, as a class????!! Come on now!! Tell me you guys never called that poor bookworm kid in Junior High a fàggot...tell me you do not at this very moment look down in judgment upon them!
Gay bashing is an.actual term
But christians have it way worse than gays. Your likely to get your ass kicked for just being a Christian walking down the street.
Don, Christians are being persecuted as never before across the globe and right here in America. From schools to the public square. You honestly probably never heard that or believe it because mainstream media doesn't
report it. Another end time prophecy being fulfilled. Who else would know the future so precisely other than God?
Where are you going with your question, Racer?
Kasson, MN 55944, USA
good ol angilius, making as much sense as he ever did.
@ almost 4 years ago
Martinsburg, WV , United States
hyperbole and complete lack of context and any measure of a touch of reality
Lets get this straight, scrags (no pun intended): gays have NOT been persecuted, but christians ARE. Is that your assertion?
im sure that is different for him, his disconnect there is not really able to be reasoned out. i was more wondering about his assertion that christians are being persecuted as never before.
that requires a complete lack of historical knowledge when they were actually persecuted and then the moment it stopped for them, the moment they became the ruling party and their growth from there.
the reality that what is felt now is not persecution, not even at the level that they shelled out towards others, it is slow, gradual backsliding to less of their will imposed on others.
When were Christians ever persecuted on this scale? http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/02/vatican-spokesman-claims-100000-christians-killed-annually-because-faith/
Where are gays persecuted to this extent. Enough of your liberal propaganda already.
That number is fake and the entire article is a debate on the number itself, did you even read it? It says that persecution against christians is on the rise yes, in the middle east and africa, in muslim countries,
as minorities usually live in a type of persecution. the killed is a fake number, even if it was real, which it is not it is not even close to the scale in which christians were persected before they became the
persecutor in things like the crusades and through history after that before liberalism itself made them more tollerate towards ethnic and religious minorities
you talk about scale as you even know the meaning of the word
gays absolutely are persecuted to the level you try to emphasize christians are, and im sure we can find some #### to make up a number like 100,000 for them too
Can you back that up with any sources other than yourself? Are you somehow privy to special knowledge none of us are?
are you ignoring most of my posts or all of them?
Long time no see, Josh. Where you been?
working, and i have a baby?
I owe you an apology for those horrible things I said about you and your family. I truly am sorry.
that is weird, deathbed conversion? it was a long time ago im not worried about what people say about my family they are my pride and joy.
but anyway you must realize that the numbers of gays killed each year would far exceed those of christians in the world on a per capita basis.
Josh not Adam. My bad sorry it's been awhile.
Good to hear from you brother, hope the baby is well and happy
that baby is always happy except when he is hitting his head on a wall or a door, sucking on a titty usually fixes him right up after that though, more problems in this world can be solved if more people just
lived like he lives, i guess gays really are screwed
Hahaha you need to watch the movie "Parenthood", if you haven't seen it.
Josh.. it (scraggs) has gotten so much worse while you've been gone. Check out Racers crazy 1000+thread about talking at his kid's school about being an atheist... Holy crap.
Adam, that's tolerant you stupid sh!t.
Romney, WV 26757, USA
Give me a number on homosexuals killed worldwide. The article says 2.5 million Christians live in persecution. I'm sure that includes some here, persecuted by queers.
You could at least thank me for putting food on your table so your little niglet doesn't starve.
Seriously...Romney, WV???? That guy is so fúcking rich he has a town? Well I guess that explains some shít doesn't it.
Oh yeah, I guess a liberal wouldn't understand Mitt Romney wasn't around in 1762, f_cking moron.
How sad for you.