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Congratulations to all our LGBT brothers and sisters on a great furtherance of their equal rights today, courtesy of the Supremes.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Comments (495)

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kinda miss inex on a day like today. kinda

Tjaden Froyda @ about 4 years ago

Rochester, MN 55901, USA

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Since he's not here, can you describe the scene? Be descriptive.

The Drew @ about 4 years ago

E 42nd St, New York, NY 10017

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Inex can't be bothered today. He and Tyrone are enjoying their special day privately.

Racer X @ about 4 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

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Do are the incest and bigamy laws moot? Can a mother marry a daughter to avoid inheritance taxes? Cool.

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

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The right ruling but for the wrong reason.

Arlington Heights @ about 4 years ago

Arlington Heights, PA, USA

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Arlington are you referring to the Prop 8 decision? Agreed, but the court prefers not to make a real decision if it doesn't have to.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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Bob as usual you are way off in left field. Ummm maybe right field is more appropriate

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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How so?

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

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Ok so let me answer then: no. No.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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Again, how so. Aren't siblings, children and polygamists classes of people?

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

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Sure they are. None of todays rulings affect those classes. None of todays rulings say that gay people can marry, either. In case you thought they did.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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Since there was no ruling on gays marrying there is nothing that one could possibly relate to polygamists or children marrying adults. So to sum up: you're off in right field.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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Bueller?...Bueller?... (crickets crickets crickets)

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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Bob! Don't run away like a little bítch! Oh...wait, you ARE a little bítch. Well sorry, my bad, slappy.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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Bob's a moron, Doc. The good news is that I don't think he's actually from here, just stationed here.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ about 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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Bob's a moron, Doc. The good news is that I don't think he's actually from here, just stationed here.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ about 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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From where, Uranus?? Lol

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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So, we're calling names now, Dr. Bitch? Okay. I can go there, you fu(king retarded moron. Incest doesn't only apply to children, you stupid (unt. I was very to clear to non-retards that mother/child marriage....

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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...was specific to prevent inheritance taxes. Now only a fu(king idiot, like yourself, Dr. Bitch would assume the child was a minor. Liz, did you ever find the source of your 1/3 mil women raped bullsh!t lies?

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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Thank God I'm not from Louisiana! I'd have to kill myself if I was an inbred drooling idiot like Liz. "FEMA money isn't from taxes"! You really should quit drinking the swamp/sewer water, Liz.

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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Please bitch. I owned you in both of those debates. #1 The American Journal of Industrial medicine. And I corrected myself REPEATEDLY to say sexually assaulted. #2 When talking about FEMA monies, you must specify if you mean FEMA flood insurance or

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ about 4 years ago

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your buddy Bush's monstrosity that falls under homeland security and funded with tax $. The fact remains though that every single thing you've ever bought in your life was paid for by TAXPAYERS. Once again, you're welcome.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ about 4 years ago

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Bob the child as a minor or not is completely irrelevant to my point, which is that todays decisions have no effect in making or taking away any marriage rights. At all. Got it, stupid?????

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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Liz, you ignorant inbred slut. .... ""I actually hauled dirt to the plaquemines levee rebuild after Katrina for an out of state contractor hired by... the army corps."

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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You still believe your flood insurance dollars went to pay the Army Corp of Engineers' contract to rebuild the plaquemines levee, Liz? Prove it. You swamp sucking dipsh!t.

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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You can keep "Correcting yourself" Liz. It seems to be a habit.

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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lol that's all you got you taxsucking government leech? I qualified for FEMA and did not apply... I received NO govt assistance. I worked on one FEMA funded levee project for about a month. You do the math... if you're capable. I paid the taxes that

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ about 4 years ago

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FEMA paid me for that work... I can't think of a more responsible way of living through that situation... can you?

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ about 4 years ago

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Reread that exchange... I was replying to h20 when I repeated his word. Rape. And when you got all anal about it, I corrected myself immediately. Why don't you try refuting the 1/3 sexually assaulted? Or is it that you CAN'T?

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ about 4 years ago

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I saw what you're talking about... Woman!

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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"Dr" Evil, do you honestly believe that this decision somehow makes that train wreck of a daughter of yours any less of a mess? Her lifestyle is wrong and should not be condoned. This is the type sh1t that got Sodom and

Angelus @ about 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Gomorrah destroyed.

Angelus @ about 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Why do we call them sodomites...and not Gomorrites? Were the chicks from Sodom just better at their trade?

Racer X @ about 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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I don't have any lgbt brothers or sisters..... ... we all know what our PP's are for

A Benevolent Greedy Bastard @ about 4 years ago

Pendleton, IN, USA

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And I don't think they need our heterosexual approval but thanks anyhow doc I appreciate it

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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I mean THEY appreciate it! I don't know what I mean you know what I mean?

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Is that it though? Are we at the limit? Or is there more? What could possibly be the next level? Let's try to get ahead of this one or are we at the absolute limit?

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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We have all the benefits on the table? all the spousal benefits right? Medical ,divorce rights child custody all that crap? What else is there? Openly gay boy Scout leaders?

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Openly gay gym teachers in the shower with children? Is that the next step guys?

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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They weren't chicks, they were men. The cities were destroyed not only because of the f@gs, but also the societal act of condoning such behavior. That is the precise reason we have laws against f@g acts. Just another

Angelus @ about 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Where is this heading?? Or have the Liberals taken us to the absolute limit?

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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are WE happy yet?

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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one of the end times' prophecies being fulfilled.

Angelus @ about 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Example: an openly gay individual walks into the shower room at the school the health club whatever.. what is the protocol hippies? We don't know, you tell us

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Got that right Scragg! Men laying with men and the fundamental transformation of the world's strongest nation.

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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We need to wait for an African American to come answer these questions. Judging by their voting records they should know they're the only ones paying attention

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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What are you talking about, pink? You cheat on your wife...with black trannies...that you PAY!!! That still makes you gay, you know?

Will @ about 4 years ago

East Village, Kansas City, MO 64106

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...or at least bi-curious...

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Bob I see you have no retort for me, not even a mouthful of vile names! I feel left out...surely you can come up with something to equal the witty repartee of "cúnt!"

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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If he's still curious, he has more problems than I thought, Doc.

Will @ about 4 years ago

East Village, Kansas City, MO 64106

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Did the court over turn a bipartisan law? Did the court over turn the California citizens vote? I guess if you can't get the votes or the law to go your way.....

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ about 4 years ago

Olmsted, OH, USA

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camel cünt! Hey Doc kiss "I am" then you can be lesbians!!! , what the hell is wrong with you Adam!

Mr. Pink @ about 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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The court overturns bipartisan laws, when they are found unconstitutional. That is what they are for...they are the mechanism by which the tyranny of the majority is kept in check.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Add for the CA law...no, the court did not overturn that. They dismissed the suit.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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And the other thirty states are safe.

John Galt...  Bernie Is A Socialist @ about 4 years ago

Olmsted, OH, USA

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The court did overturn DOMA. Unconstitutional. As it should be, as I thought from the start when Clinton signed it into law...it was like, wtf are you thinking!

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Galt...currently only 12 states have legalized gay marriage. But just wait. Pretty soon it will be 48...Alabama and Tennessee will hold out until 3057.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Did you not know how many states have legalized gay marriage, or are you confused about how many states there are in the Union?

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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(cue Obama 57 states jokes)

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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FVCK YOU ALL

WV Conservative @ about 4 years ago

Crestview, Sussex, WI 53089

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you'd like that wouldn't you?

A Benevolent Greedy Bastard @ about 4 years ago

Harrison, IN, USA

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The problem here, is that using the force of government to right a former misuse of government only serves to legitimize the original oppressive behavior. The sensible reaction to the tyranny of government interference in marriage, is to reject it.

et in Arcadia ego @ about 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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Get government out of marriage. Solve the problem.

et in Arcadia ego @ about 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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@Arcadia - what about the tax implications and government benefits that are associated with marriage? Would you removed them as well?

Racer X @ about 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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Yeah not really sure what your point is here Arcadia. If you are associating for states rights, both of yesterdays decisions are a victory for you. If instead you are saying that the tax break now conferred on the plaintiff in the DOMA case is

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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wrong and an interference of the government in marriage, I beg to differ. The government collects taxes, across the board. Married couples are recognized in different ways in some cases. In this case, the recognition is a tax break on estate taxes

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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How is this really government meddling in marriage? Really it's just a recognition of it. Legislation of marriage rights still belongs to the states.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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(advocating, not associating, at the top of those last comments)

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Does calling names bother you, Dr. Hypocrite? How perfectly liberal of you! It's telling that a person who revels in being called a camel toe would focus on the word, cúnt.

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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The SC ruling stated that a subset of people couldn't be treated differently by the Federal govt, Dr. Hypocrite. Polygamists are a subset of people. Adult siblings, parents and children are also subsets of people.

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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The Federal Government in the Enabling Act of 1894 specifically singled out the subset of polygamists, and denied them the right to marry in accordance with the laws of their state. Is this too difficult for you?

Bob Loblaw @ about 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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Bob, not going to repeat myself yet again. If you had a legitimate point of any sort, trust me your buddies would be all over me...but no one is jumping on it. Unfortunately, you are just plain wrong. Sorry.

Dr. Evil @ about 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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http://global.christianpost.com/news/polygamists-celebrate-doma-ruling-does-gay-marriage-open-the-door-for-polygamy-98954/

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/27/the-case-for-polygamy/

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/polygamists-celebrate-supreme-courts-marriage-rulings

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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http://www.npr.org/2013/03/28/175619109/if-supreme-court-lets-states-define-marriage-could-legalized-polygamy-make-a-com

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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http://www.queerty.com/gop-lawyer-cites-1885-polygamy-case-in-federal-doma-suit-involving-ny-lesbian-20120928/

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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Yep. "Nobody."

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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Paul Clement, a respected attorney, former Solicitor General of the US, and a gentleman who frequently addresses the Supreme Court, found a relationship to polygamy, Dr. Hypocrite. Are you really a lawyer?

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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(slaps forehead)...so what. Like I said if polygamists want marriage rights they'll have to take up their issue like gay folks did. Without marriage rights, the court rulings do not apply to them. Period.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I notice that you never skip a period Dr Evil that's what I dig about you. Yep women sure do know how to use their periods :-) Wouldn't you just love to reach right through that phone and bïtch slap me?woman!!!

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Polygamy is natural :-) women just haven't caught on yet

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Actually that's one of the nicer things you've said to me Pinkie. Also just for the record I've said many times that me and my husband need a wife (usually when I am spending half my weekend scrubbing floors and toilets and grocery shopping).

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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As long as I could treat a third party to our marriage as a slave, I'd be all up with it. Also if that slave were a well hung dude that would be even better. Pink, still have your buddy Dave's phone number?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Oh the humanity

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Thought you'd want a female, LGBT and all....

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Annandale, VA 22003, United States

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Unless the hubby is into ??????????? (Dave) .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Annandale, VA 22003, United States

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Darn it I try to share a little of my life and it backfires on me.feel sorry for me! Don't make fun of me!

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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I just can't picture you working around the house doctor evil! Wait a minute, now I picture it... yeah you're naked

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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She's not working around the house, she's afraid of bugs .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Annandale, VA 22003, United States

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Hey a female would be fine too. Just sayin I wouldn't mind if it were a nice hunk of beefcake. I used to do stuff around the house while naked, but after having kids that kind of ended. Go figure.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Pinkie I'll agree to stop making fun of you and Dave, and your half-size penis, if you stop with the camel toe stuff. Fair is fair...so choose one and live with your choice. Either way is fine by me.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I vote, keep camel toe,,, Dave was an interlude, camel toe is forever

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Annandale, VA 22003, United States

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"... the state's prohibition of interracial marriage for this reason stands on the same footing as the prohibition of polygamous marriage, or incestuous marriage or the prescription of minimum ages at which people may marry..."

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89706, USA

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That is from the argument made by by he Asst. AG of Virginia in Loving. It sounds oddly familiar. Where have I heard something similar?

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89706, USA

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I guess interracial marriage opened the door for polygamy and child brides, right Bob?

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89706, USA

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The end game is ending marriage all together. It's not love our so two gay people can get married. The destruction of the social pillars that make us what we are and what have driven our success.

Kzoo @ almost 4 years ago

South Westnedge, Kalamazoo, MI

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Heterosexual marriage made America great? huh. I always thought it was ambition and ingenuity.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Norcross, GA 30092, USA

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I suppose the destruction of the social pillars of slavery and sexism were detrimental as well?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Duluth, GA 30097, USA

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I'll lose the camel toe just tell me I have a beautiful côck

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

North Royalton, OH, USA

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It's lovely, Mr. Pink!!!

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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No doubt my Mexican dad and Caucasian mom only got married to uproot tradition. I'm probably just the product of their desire to kill the concept of separate races.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89706, USA

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Nah, just a one nighter gone bad,,,, :)

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Annandale, VA 22003, United States

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And you have a lovely vag :-)

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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this just got weird...

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Northrup, Rochester, MN

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Only just now??

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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^^^^ gets the camel toe vote. .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fredericksburg, VA 22408, USA

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The government isn't idly "meddling" in marriage, Doc, it is balls deep in the marriage business. You cannot be married in church without a government license. Why? Because regulating marriage is wildly profitable for them.

et in Arcadia ego @ almost 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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I propose to get government completely out of marriage. Let people have personal contracts regarding the legal aspects of union, as they see fit, and get the state out of religious exercise.

et in Arcadia ego @ almost 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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We need to look at the contractual union and the religious ceremony separately, and remove government from both. When problems arise, accept private arbitration, end "family courts". No government is necessary in any facet of these relationships.

et in Arcadia ego @ almost 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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Welcome to immoral America where we will become more immoral, confused breeding a generation of immorality and confusion that will eventually turn this nation into something none of us will be proud of. Soon the polygamous will want their rights,

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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@Black Conservative - how does homosexuality affect the country negatively?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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then the child molesters will claim they are a race like the gays and make it a civil rights issue. Where will it stop. It won't because we have opened up a Pandoras box. Evil and confusion will breed itself.

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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You may laugh and say that will never happen well some time back no one would have imagined a gay marriage becoming legal. It will not stop. Evil distort the mind eventually and we will call what is right wrong and what is wrong right.

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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AIDS would be a good example of how homosexuality negatively affected the country.

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

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Racer, there have been study after study by government, private entities local and foreign that show that families with mother and father produce the most emotionally and psychlogically healthy children.

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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I thought you would have seen AIDS as God's justice for homosexuality. A plague sent to smite those who go against God's law.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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@Black Conservative -I agree that children are best served by being raised by two parents. So your only problem with homosexuality is the adoption of children?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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God does not bring it people bring it on themselves. God is the father telling us dont touch the fire or you will get burned. We are the disobedient children that so it anyway then get mad at the parent foe being so mean.

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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I'd you agree with that then why approve of such a unhealthy life style?

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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If you agree....

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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Are you equally vocally opposed to the high percentage of children being raised by single mothers?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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What percentage of homosexual couples have children? I wouldn't think it's very high.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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I personally know quite a few homosexual couples... both male and female. I only know of one that has children. (A man who was married & had two kids previously).

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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I think that consenting adults should be allowed to make their own lifestyle decisions add long as they don't hurt anyone else's life, liberty, or personal property.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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I disagree with attempts to legislate morality.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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I have always been concerned about single parents even more now as an adult who was raised in a single parent home. when you legalize gay marriage that is legislating morality.

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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No it's not.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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It's the government removing itself from the equation.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

It's allowing consenting adults to make their own lifestyle choices. Choices that don't harm anybody else's life, liberty, or personal property.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

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BC if you are so concerned for three children then you should be working vigorously to outlaw divorce. That's a lot of the problem right there, creating single parent households. You should encourage everyone to marry.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Arcadia, I completely agree with you...in fact I suggested this very thing on vm quite a long time ago: govt should just provide a registration type civil union...leave marriages to the churches if people want that. But my reason was different...

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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My reason was that having priests etc.register with the state in order to provide a state-issued marriage certificate is a violation of the 1st Amendment. Would you agree? Seems a stronger argument to me.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I'm not a fan of homosexuality but DOMA should never have been imposed. It was NOT Constitutional. They simply should have given them Civil Unions and left it alone. Now we have this hodge-podge one state says no while another says yes.

Bankai! @ almost 4 years ago

Huntsville, AL 35806, USA

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That previous discussion is, I think, still around. Maybe I should go bump it...

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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@bc - those parenting studies have well documented flaws discussed on here before. no conclusions can be drawn from them on fitness of same sex couples as parents

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Rochester, MN 55901, USA

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How many lives were lost to AIDS by infected homosexuals selling their blood before AIDS could be detected? Were infected gays identified to prevent this loss of life?

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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I don't blame gays, but I do blame those who allowed them to be anonymous. To infect the blood supply. To prevent stigmatizing gays, govt allowed the loss of life.

Bob Loblaw @ almost 4 years ago

Shreveport, LA , United States

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Actually, yes gays were targeted early on in the AIDS epidemic and were prevented from giving blood. I was too, because one of the guys I slept with turned out to be bi and slept with at least one guy before I came along.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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So yeah, as soon as they figured put how AIDS was transmitted, blood donation rules were changed. Of course!

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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stop that, Evil. Bob really likes his version of history. it keeps him in his happy place.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Rochester, MN 55901, USA

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Well Bob is entitled to his opinion, of course. Not his own facts.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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of course. but he wants both

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

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I've said this before but I'll say it again... All this dichotomy stems from the fact that we never were intended to be a completely secular government.

Kzoo @ almost 4 years ago

Schoolcraft, MI 49087, USA

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That's a bunch of bullshít right there, Kzoo.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Our government was fully intended to be secular, in order to provide the people with the ability to worship as they please. If the government adopts a religion, how can the people be free to worship freely?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Sorry I don't talk English gooder.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Lesbian :-)

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

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Doc, religious freedom can in fact coexist with a state religion (although this obviously would be strictly unconstitutional here). Good examples are Denmark and UK.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Northwest Harbor, NY, USA

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Drew, I hear you...but glad it's not so here. Seriously, can you imagine??? You being Jewish, me being atheist, we would both be hung upside down and shoot like Stalin.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

866c340350f5840e74b995be7448cd17

Nothing about what I said equals state religion. I'm fact the very establishing of a state religion is the of the new things that WERE actually intended by founding fathers.

Kzoo @ almost 4 years ago

Schoolcraft, MI 49087, USA

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I'm =in. We were never meant to be fully secular. It was intended to be neutral. But not secular.

Kzoo @ almost 4 years ago

Schoolcraft, MI 49087, USA

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There is a difference. Not to infringe on the rights of the minority or all and maintain the government for the people and by the people. The government is suppose to reflect the people.

Kzoo @ almost 4 years ago

Schoolcraft, MI 49087, USA

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Doc, I would argue that the state need not have any interaction with marriage. We're free to enter into contracts without their interference, why should a contract to merge two peoples finances together be any different?

et in Arcadia ego @ almost 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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And yet government puts itself squarely into the equation. Why? What benefit comes from them controlling how this particular type of contract is structured and applied?

et in Arcadia ego @ almost 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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Would marriage contracts suffer or benefit from diversity? Why can't we have a temporal aspect associated with marriage? One year, multi year, till children reach majority? Why does government stipulate till death do us part?

et in Arcadia ego @ almost 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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Could it be because they benefit greatly from also controlling the dissolution of these contracts? Wouldn't a civil court serve, why must the government have a separate court just for divorce, and family law? Marriage is just a contract, after all.

et in Arcadia ego @ almost 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

B5542118c2d0317fb8dbad550049edb7

Why does it receive such different treatment under the law? Who benefits? Families? The two original parties? Or government itself? Where is the rational, overriding need for different, special treatment of these particular contracts?

et in Arcadia ego @ almost 4 years ago

Concord, IN, USA

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Skal anything that goes against your world view you will find some minority report to support what you believe.

Black Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

James Madison, VA, USA

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Arcadia, ok well I see your point. I would have no problem with having marriage be just another contractual relationship. But then you would have to carry it with you everywhere in case you needed proof of that arrangement...like if your wife

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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was in the hospital and you wanted to visit her. Or she didn't have a will and you wanted to prove that you should have the house she bought in her own namer before you married...etc. etc. Registration with the state has some advantages regarding

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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proof of the relationship. Like registering your house or your car (I live on Torrens property, which is registered). What if there is a fire and your contract is burned, etc?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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I'm a live and let live dude, but where it crosses the line is when it infringes on the 1st amendment, the general Gov does not have the power to force a church to perform a same sex marriage.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

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They don't have to

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

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Not yet, but they're many advocates to force there church the perform the ceremony. Plus with all the celebration about there victory, it opens the door for polygamist, and its Islamist lifestyle to have many wifes, are you ready to tolerate it?

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Robertson, TN

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It has absolutely 0 to do with me..so of polygamist somehow convince everyone that lifestyle should be recognized and given.benefits so be it. Whats to tolerate? How does that effect me?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

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Islamist lifestyle. Hahahahahahaha What lifestyle are the muslims in or country living now? Why are we fighting an.islamic lifestyle. Is everyone going to have to become polygamist in.this downward spiral brought on.by legitimizing gay marriage

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

It not about you, its about Gov power at the point of the Gov gun forcing compliance.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

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Its the next logical step, there going to say that there religious civil rights are being infringed, so the progress continues, you are a progressive and like the progressives ordering you into compliance at the point of the Gov gun.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

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Forcing compliance of what?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Its not about me, but you asked me would i tolerate it. I responded, why wouldn't i tolerate it

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Churches are not forced to do many things on account of freedom of religion. Right now, many Catholic churches refuse Communion to gays. No one is telling them they have to perform that religious rite for gays.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

IMO refusing communion is worse than refusing to marry a gay couple. Why: marriage does not require participation of the church. You can get married outside the church. Communion, not so much.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

Like I said, I'm a live and let live dude, really don't care what you do in the privacy of your home, of you want to take your self out of the gene pool by burgering another man where he evacuates his bowels, so be it, or if you want more than one wi

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

wife, really don't care.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Good. I don't see forcing churches to marry gays as being even close to being on the horizon

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

So you want a church to be forced at the point of a gun to give communion. What of the the rights of the minister, the gay person rights are put before the ministers rights.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

No i don't. And no they won't. Is that what you got from our comments

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

Participation in the church is accepting and following the teaching of Jesus,its voluntary,the gay person does not have to go to that church.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

You can't say that the Gov won't, its in Gov interest to.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

You can't say the government will, either. However, that narrative fits your worldview, so you are essentially arguing just that. There is no evidence that three government is about to shred the right to freely practice religion, so the slippery

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

slope argument you so love just doesn't work in this instance.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

You just refuse to see it, my view on organized religion is the same as government, don't trust neither, they are both necessary evils and only not a threat to liberties if kept in the smallest form. My Faith does not mean to blindly follow, and do

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

As told, just like I don't blindly follow an elegant speaker telling me that he'll heal the world with legislation.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

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How is religion necessary?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

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If there was no religion no one would ever feel guilty about anything. Duhhh

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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If there was no religion we wouldn't exist.. Duhhh

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

ohhhhhh... Please forgive my delusional ignorance for thinking we'd be better off without religion.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Bethlehem, GA 30620, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I refuse to see that your view of religion and government are one in the same??? Yeah, no doubt. In fact James Madison felt that government sullied religion...and religion sullied government. Thus the two should be kept separate.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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We only need to look at the worst of the worst to see why faith in God is necessary. Look at the ghetto and the gang bangers. If they abided by God's law instead of man's law you wouldn't have the killing, the single

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

moms, and the crime. It's right in front of your faces yet you refuse to see.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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How on earth are we gonna fit all this stuff into Sharia beliefs? Just don't see how it will work. We know how our radical Muslim "friends" feel about gay people.....

No Time Valley @ almost 4 years ago

Las Vegas, NV 89178, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Oh scraggs if only it were that convenient

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Were the crusadors not following gods law?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

The booty raping priest. Not following gods law?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

We only need to look at the worst of the worst to see that religion is evil. Look at the 9/11 perpetrators, Al Quaida, and so many other motivated by religion and carried out by religious extremists.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Of course not. Because everything good is gods law. And everything bad is mans law. And no matter how godly you claim to be if you take young booty, you are noise outside gods law.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

If these people were not religious, they would not have carried out these heinous crimes and killed thousands.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Apples and oranges. Can I simply condemn all government because of the actions of Stalin and Mao. I didn't live during the crusades. We don't understand the climate of the times. Maybe they were wrong, but regardless the

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Not sure where murder has been an acceptable law anywhere. But even the "godly" murder. Matter fact most off those that murder the most murder in.the name of some god

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

crusades are not what Christianity is all about. Without Christianity people are rudderless and we are surrounded by it. One would have to be in a coma to not see it, which unfortunately is the case for many.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

The irony in all this is the murderer that mans law is supposedly condoning will go to.heaven if he believes and repents. But thats not condoning. Jailing them for life or giving the death penalty is condoning.. how convenient

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

IMO the world would be a much more peaceful, lawful place if people would just stop believing in pretend gods...and then perpetrate violence against others who don't believe in the same pretend stuff they do.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

And that is the beginning and end to why I'm not buying that b.s. If that god exist. You can have him.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Over 100 million civilians were murdered last century by godless governments. Your numbers are completely wrong. Evil, how many murders are committed in this country due to religion? I would be correct to argue that

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

99% of murders in this country are due to a lack of faith. You are perpetuating a myth that never was true.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Don, you make it sound as if I can murder and simply say I repent and I will go to Heaven. A true believer in Christ will not murder. A murderer is not going to fool God.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

^This guy is a ####ing lampoon trying to make us look bad.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

I apologize if I've wronged you, WV. Thank you, for helping me see the error of my ways and making me a better Christian!

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

The 10 commandments are there for a reason, without them it would be Hell on earth, or Chicago.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Exactly!

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

You aren't a Christian scraggley, look at your mocking name, you are a fake piece of ####.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

The very first thing you said when you "came back" was joking about Christ being a homosexual, you have done nothing but lie about yourself and everyone else since.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

You are the most anti-christian here, you make racer look like Saul of Tarsus.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

IMO homosexuality is a voluntary opt out of the gene pool, so you loose your immorality by not procreating and there family looses for his sin.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

Now here you are, reveling in your godlessness, making stupid strawman arguemnts riddles with fallacies and holes such as no true Scottsmen. Making people think that there is no God just because your words are so weak

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

and set up to mock HIM.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

So, that is you Josh. I'm sorry I said those things about your family and hope you will find it in your heart to forgive and forget. I imagine there is a lot of hurt there and it will take some time.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

How convenient. Are any murders attributed to god. The ones in his name maybe?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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https://bible.org/illustration/death-row-inmate He's going to heaven

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

I'm like the 4th f_cking person you have called Josh in under a week, make up your f_ckin mind you God mocking piece of sh_t.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

I will personally enjoy watching you burn in hell for your sins.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Does a Christian enjoy watching others suffer?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

You don't think that man should go to Heaven, Don? That's what Christianity is all about. None of us are perfect. We all need Christ's sacrifice to cleanse us of our sins. I imagine Heaven is so wonderful that the events

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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of pain and suffering in this world are insignificant.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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I don't need hopes of an imaginary dreamland to not do bad things. I'm not down with a place that doesn't differentiate good a bad things done. You can have that god.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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Does a Christian enjoy watching people suffer? Go check some of the Christian cereal killers

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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Thus his trust in government is explained.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

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It's not "...hopes of an imaginary dreamland to not do bad things." Christians do good things because it's the right thing to do and they want to do good. You become a better person by doing good.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. Maddison

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

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As am atheist I do good things because I want to, because doing three right thing feels good. Who taught me this? My parents, my teachers, my friends, my kids...by example or by showing me the fallout from doing the wrong thing.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

My sense of right and wrong doesn't depend on some make believe man in the sky that causes me to fear what will happen if I screw up.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Serial killers are satanists by deed alone. They definitely aren't Christians, they're religious. You will know them by their fruits (Mat 7:15-20).

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

Just because you don't have Faith, it doesn't give you the power to not allow people of Faith to practice it in the public square, the establishment clause just prohibits a State sponsored religion, we still have the free practice of religion.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

Or lack of religion.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Franklin, KY 42134, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

You are an atheist because: For every one that doth evil hateth the light and cometh not to the light, that his works may not be reproved (John 3:20).

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Evil, do you please the loved ones in your life because you fear their reprisals? I think you desire to please them because you love them like Christians love God.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Dontai, you are correct, congratulations. What's your point? I didn't daddy you couldn't believe your silly beliefs or practice your silly practices. No one is saying that. I was just relating that my lack of belief does not in and of itself make

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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me a bad person. I am good or bad, regardless of what I believe.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

And by the way, Dontai, you just proved to yourself that no one is going to try to force the church to perform gay marriages. We do in fact have the ability to freely practice religion. So if your religion has bigotry as one of it's tenets, great.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Go practice bigotry with a warm fuzzy security, bolstered by the other bigots that share your narrow worldview. Have at it!

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Scraggley if you are implying I worship my husband, that's pretty rich. I'm gonna tell him that tonight so we can both have a good laugh!

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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(He would never have married me if I was that sort of person!)

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

They prohibit payer in the school, so they are infringing on the free practice of religion, what's to stop them from forcing the church to perform the ceremony using equality as the excuse,all it took was being offended to take prayer out of school.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Nashville, TN 37209, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

Your the bigot, evil, or you would not have a problem with christianity, your party has been at war with Christians and because they don't except Gov as the all mighty God, but as an evil entity what is necessary and has to be kept on a short leash.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Nashville, TN 37209, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

They don't inhibit prayer in schools. A kid can bow their head and pray at any time. They inhibit the school leading prayer.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

@DONT - Kids are forbidden from praying at school?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Atlanta, GA 30315, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

Do you have an example of a kid being punished for praying at school?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

High Point, Atlanta, GA

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393977/Graduation-students-told-pray-graduation-ceremony.html

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Thompson's Station, TN 37179, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Three ruling was about school officials conducting a prayer etc.at a graduation ceremony, not about any one individual praying. FAIL

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

And my freedom to disparage religion is at least as important as your freedom to practice your religion. This is what Americas is all about! Just like you are free to spew dumb crap on vm, you are free to have your dumb ideas about religion.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

And might I say, I completely support your right to say stupid things, to call me a bigot for looking down on religion, and for worshipping pretend deities.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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(to worship)

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2009/04/police-stop-student-led-prayer-during.html?m=1

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Mt Pleasant, TN 38474, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

Never said that, I don't force God on you,but three atheists are constiently telling people of Faith where they can practice there beliefs, you do not have a right not to be offended,even a Chaplin in the military can't have the Bible on his desk.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Mt Pleasant, TN 38474, USA

4f2296c5af7fa46de0b9954997a11412

Church it up as much as you want in private business. But if you take public funds, there'll be no... "respecting an establishment of religion".... by government employees.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ almost 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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Church it up dudes!

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Murray Hill, New York, NY

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http://articles.centralkynews.com/2009-03-18/news/24901231_1_voluntary-student-prayer-prayer-issues-prayer-time

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89701, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

Sorry, D. Your last link doesn't hold up. It is just more playing of the religion card.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89701, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

H20 - Thumbs up for the one and only appropriate response. I left myself wide open for that.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89701, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

Black Conservative - I already posted the part of the Loving argument that was exactly the same as today's slippery slope nonsense. Do I also need to quote the part of the argument from Loving re: the science behind how children will suffer in...

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89701, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

...mixed race homes? It spoke of the children of such homes as victims of their parents poor choices. Sound familiar?

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89701, USA

6c6eb0cfbe9a2159ea7f068813df9076

I know it was resolved, but there should of been nothing to resolve. Just Luke the kid in WV who stood up to a teacher over wearing a NRA shirt, teacher freaked cops called, he faced a year in jail but out was dismissed today.

DONTAISTORM~CITIZEN,OBEY YOUR FEDERAL OVERLORD @ almost 4 years ago

Decatur, AL, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

Kzoo - Neutral = secular.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89701, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

D - What was resolved was the misrepresentation of the situation which you perpetuated. No one was threatened with arrest for praying. You want us to believe they were. That is playing the religion card.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89701, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

unkempt kunt, are you familiar with the No True Scotsman logical fallacy? Or rather, are you familiar with the name for the logical fallacy you employed earlier?

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89701, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Dontai the difference is discernible by awaking yourself the question, is this an official government action or institution? If yes, then they can't do anything tending to favor one religion over others. If no, they can do what they please.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

(Asking not awaking)

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Schools were long ago determined to be government organizations since they are taxpayer funded and basically are tasked with indoctrinating our children.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Since when are schools supposed to be indoctrinating children? Where do you all see this leading to? It ends up with the complete destruction of morality. You need look no further than the ghetto to see what happens to a

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

people in moral decline. Poverty, despair, and a people dependent on government. We all know how all powerful governments treat their subjects. If you do not see the error of your ways and turn to God you will condemn

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

your children to the whims of a tyrannical government run by elites. These elites are bent on your destruction. The libertarian party is not going to stop them. No one is going to stop them, except the return of Jesus.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Repent now, and be saved. Open your eyes to the evil around you.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

That's nice scrags. You enjoy that, ok?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Where do you see this society headed?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Athol, MA 01331, United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Towards more civil liberty.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN 55043, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Seems very shortsighted, unrealistic and naieve.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Athol, MA 01331, United States

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

more civil liberty? . been observing any laws lately? . you know Patriot Act, NDAA 2012, Drone Use, NSA spying,,, . .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

How did Rome fall? . "Those who don't study history, tend to repeat it.." .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

The moral decay of society.... . Apparently this isn't a liberal concern. .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

Can complete liberty and morality coexist?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Tucker, GA 30084, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Yes. God gave us free will in order that we may choose to love him and want to live morally.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

But, isn't enforcing YOUR morality upon someone who isn't harming anyone else's life, liberty, or personal property... restricting THEIR liberty?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Christians do not seek to force their morality on anyone. To force morality on anyone is not Christian. Anti-christians are forcing their false morality on us. It is their false morality that damages all of society. It

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

harms all of society.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

John Adams said: "It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue."

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

and "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

to the government of any other."

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Founding father Charles Carroll said: "Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime & pure, [and] which denounces

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

against the wicked eternal misery, and [which] insured to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

It's like I have been saying, this is all a ruse to destroy freedom. Fulfillment of Bible prophecy. We know how this ends because the Bible tells us so. Accept Christ into your hearts.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

not sure about the religion portion or choices offered. But I can find no human society that survived any length of time after acceptance of homosexuality as a norm. .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

Can anyone point to anything that says homosexuality is morally correct? . If it is, shouldn't we be encouraging our children to at least try it? (like broccoli) . Shouldn't we insist the world nations accept it and embrace it? .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

H2O - Do or did you encourage your children to try out every religion? I don't mean are/where you open to the idea since you brought up active encouragement. If not, is it because you find other or all religions immoral?

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Reno, NV 89511, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

I have no moral objections to religion but I wouldn't actively encourage my kids to participate in that lifestyle choice. No moral objections to gun ownership but I wouldn't actively encourage it.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Reno, NV 89511, USA

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That's a fuçking stupid argument, h2o

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Rochester, MN 55901, United States

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1: paul, yes I do & did encourage my children to at least look at, study, &/or attend other religions or viewpoints. It is not my place to tell them what to or not to believe. personally I looked at 4-5 religions, before I decided my faith. .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

And only because it was the closer not the absolute to my beliefs. .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

Skal, how so? If you find homosexuality to be morally acceptable, than why is it off limits to your children? .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Did I ever say it was off limits? It's a stupid question because whether or not someone is homosexual has nothing to do with morals, nor is it something you try "like broccoli".

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Rochester, MN 55901, United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

The idea "trying" homosexuality is why I'm convinced your born that way. Anyone who thinks people can.try it, or decide to be it might be gay themselves, because as a straight man the idea of trying dick is disgusting. Also on.the male end you

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Must be aroused to preform the sexual act. If you can arouse yourself from a male body you are homosexual. No matter what you try to tell yourself

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

I've went in circles with someone about this before. Have you tried dick? Do you want to try Dick? Why would you think others would choose it over pussy? They are obviously wired different than i am

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

so in what successful society is homosexuality morally okay? here's a helping hand, cannibalism is acceptable in some cultures, should we be okay with that also? .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

The point don, is if you find homosexuality morally okay, why wouldn't you expose your children to it? .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

They are exposed to it. They are around the same sex everyday. I think they can figure out if they are attracted to them

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

And if that were the case, i wouldn't discourage it.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

If out were morally wrong to be with women, could you make yourself be with men?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

What type of exposure is it you are thinking of, h2o? Telling them who they should and shouldn't be attracted to? I don't care what orientation your kids are...when has that ever worked?

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Rochester, MN 55901, United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

We are all exposed to homosexuality every day we go out in public, in the same way we are exposed to heterosexuality. Not like you would show your kid a porno, then encourage them to go see if they can do that! I don't encourage my kids to be of

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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any particular sexuality, not do any parents I know. It's something they have to figure out for themselves.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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@Don - I remember that thread.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

http://yodamap.com/posts/60220

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

There's nothing natural about homosexuality. If it were "natural" homosexuals would be able to reproduce, but then they wouldn't be homosexuals because one of them would have female parts.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

ability to reproduce is not a benchmark for defining natural

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Kutzky Park, Rochester, MN

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

So it's natural to pass your genes to offspring so that they may commit genetic suicide by being homosexual? Obviously homosexuality is a disorder.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

@Scraggley -why are you opposed to two consenting adults engaging in behavior that doesn't harm anyone else's life, liberty, or property?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Stone Mountain, GA 30083, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

What of Occam's razor, Skal. Isn't the simplest explanation usually true? Isn't homosexuality more than likely the result of gender confusion which often arises after molestation, same sex sexual contact, etc.?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

yes, scrags. that is natural. that's the whole point of natural selection: certain traits decrease chance of successfully reproducing.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Zumbrota, MN 55992, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

At this point the homosexual agenda is accomplishing its stated purpose to undermine the family and society. Why do you think it is being thrust upon children in elementary schools?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

Occam's razor fails often in biology, scrags. besides, the whole molestation, same sex contact thing is full of holes that don't stand up to scrutiny - like the very large proportion with none of the above.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Zumbrota, MN 55992, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

That is not how natural selection works, skal. What benefits does homosexuality confer? How does homosexuality make that organism better able to pass on homosexuality. Same sex contact does explain many cases of

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

H2O - Kudos. I too checked out all the major religions before realizing the notion that something had to be found was wrong. But all I did was pick the wrong example. The point is that no one encourages their children to dabble in every morally...

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89706, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

homosexuality, but the crux of my argument was actually gender confusion caused by events such as molestation and same sex contact.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

...acceptable endeavor. No one takes their kid to every job, every organization, etc. No one feels obligated to take their kid to Peruvian throat singing lessons out of an obligation born from not objecting to it morally.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89706, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

Skal already touched on the bigger flaw of it being something one tries. Reminds of when my cousin came out and his mom rented gay porn to understand it. I should note this is my uncle's ex. Not my blood relative.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89706, USA

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

that's exactly how natural selection works. natural selection works on populations, not individuals. sorry

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Red Wing, MN, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

How can natural selection work on a population without working on an individual? The enormous fallacies of your argument aside, what are homosexuals being naturally selected for...extinction?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Scrags you need to read up on this topic before posting anything else. Seriously you are embarrassing yourself right now.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Skäl I am not sure I disagree with your statement re Occam's razor. I think in biology things are too empirical, hence we don't really have a true answer...and hence things can seem more complicated than they actually are. That being said, Occam's

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

razor works to refute scrags'Aston anyway. Simpler answer is that homosexuality simply arises naturally in a predictable percentage of the human population, the same as it does in many animal populations. More complicated is that some outside

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

factor has to occur to cause someone to become gay: what things or things? Just once or with frequency? How frequent? How is it that a stable percent of the population is gay?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Aston = argument (how did Swype even go there???)

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

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I'm not here to teach you basic biology. that's how natural selection works, plain and simple. Evil is absolutely right... your misunderstanding is embarrassing.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Red Wing, MN, USA

5fb3e45b2dc289fc4a8e939347da4cf8

Captain Caveman doesn't understand science? Color me amazed.

Paul outta Hemet @ almost 4 years ago

Carson City, NV 89706, USA

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You're absolutely right about one thing, Skal. You're not here to teach me anything. While animals may use sexual acts to establish dominance and hierarchy they are not homosexual in the sense you are using the word.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

keep talking...

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Trenton, WI, USA

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Is it a stable percentage of the population though? That'd be *very* difficult to figure out seeing that these things are private, and have very different levels of acceptability throughout the ages.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Murray Hill, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Certainly it's existed throughout the history of mankind though.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Murray Hill, New York, NY

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

I'm not really sure where I'm going with that but carry-on!

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Murray Hill, New York, NY

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

evil, ,, ever seen an aged homosexual animal? nope, the species kills them young.... bad argument ... .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

ahhh,,, come on, someone go argue the cannibalism topic. .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Where did you find that at? There are several articles on animals having gay mates for life..not finding where they kill them off early

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

http://narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html I think what you were going for is if homosexuality is proven normal because of the animal kingdom so is cannibalism.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

They just don't procreate. I have never seen anything indicating "the species kills them young."

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

H2O got a link or is that just your worldview escaping it's confines and pretending to be fact?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA

7feb020fb3d3aa6cf2752031cf61da89

oh, , please,,,, show me another species that has gay partners for life

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

B35527b232c45def78db4f6949419182

there aren't many animals that mate for life to begin with.

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

14th Ave SW, Rochester, MN 55902

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

ok http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/200906/gay-animals

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Dacula, GA 30019, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2026133/Gay-zebra-finches-attached-faithful-heterosexual-pairs.html

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Auburn, GA 30011, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

The animals are simply adhering to their instincts/programming in the absence of opposite sex partners. Really nothing extraordinary or unexpected.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Except females are present

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

@scraggley - you're wrong.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Loganville, GA 30052, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

" Animals that live a completely homosexual life can also be found. This occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. Four to five percent of the couples are homosexual."

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Loganville, GA 30052, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

In the midst of a normal population of birds. .. exist lifelong homosexual couples. quite naturally

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Georgia, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

You've used birds in support of your view. For the sake of argument I'll agree that 4 to 5% of geese and ducks are gay. These animals also imprint. Imprinting is a very powerful phenomenon among geese and ducks.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

It is far from beyond the realm of possibilities that imprinting, a mating for life instinct and lack of females due to competition or other could interact resulting in homosexual ducks and geese. It is a natural

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

explanation which coincides somewhat similarly to homosexuality in humans.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

" When you see a colony of black-headed gulls, you can be sure that almost every tenth pair is lesbian. " There is no lack of suitable opposite sex partners. The animals are naturally gay. For their entire lifetime.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

1900-1964 Georgia 124, Lithonia, GA 30058

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Can you be certain they are gay. Are they eating each others boxes, or something? Could it not be an avian version of the mammalian behavior observed with female elephants and lionesses? Seems like people see what they

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Springfield, MA , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

want to see.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Springfield, MA , United States

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

http://listverse.com/2013/04/20/10-animals-that-practice-homosexuality/

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

" These pairs of female birds exhibit all the behaviors of close pair bonding, and engage in nesting, bill kissing, and a variety of other albatross breeding behaviors."

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

" Laysan albatrosses are normally highly defensive when they sense intruders— indicating that the acceptance of another female is true pair bonding."

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

" The same-sex partnerships may last as long as traditional pairs—in one case, a whopping nineteen years. In New Zealand, a same-sex pair of even larger royal albatrosses were recently found tending a nest together."

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

They seem pretty fůcking gay to me.

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Winder, GA 30680, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Females of all species typically cooperate in raising offspring. Nothing homosexual about it. Simply "scientific" anthropomorphism.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

4f2296c5af7fa46de0b9954997a11412

Besides that, Jacob imprints on Bella's daughter and how gay is THAT movie?

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ almost 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

What movie?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

4f2296c5af7fa46de0b9954997a11412

Please. I know Team Edward when I see it.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ almost 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Are you talking about that disney movie when the ducks follow the airplane?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

4f2296c5af7fa46de0b9954997a11412

You know.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ almost 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Had to search Jacob and Bella. Twilight came up. Sorry didn't see that or the duck movie. Don't watch any filth out of hollywood or on tv.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

4f2296c5af7fa46de0b9954997a11412

Vampires probably aren't real anyway, no need to panic scraggs. It's only gay if you believe.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ almost 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Scraggs have you ever fantasized about fondling a dick?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Something bothering you, Don? Bored? Trying to pick a fight?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Not really.. I asume the answer is no, and neither have i. That's why it's easy for me to draw the conclusion that very few if anyone chooses to be attracted to the same sex. And conversely be able to switch that attraction.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

I would imagine telling that person they have to be with a woman would be the same a telling one of us we ate supposed to be with a man.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

You can call it unnatural, a sickness, a disease, whatever. But the fact remains that human attraction can't be forced one way or the other. So I'm not quite understanding what you wasn't gays to do. Switch or just be asexual?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

The attraction might be real. However, it is obviously environmental. But, what if a man molested you as a child and blurred the line between hetero and homosexuals? What if he was someone you trusted? What if a mentor

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

whom you looked up to as a big brother or even a father made repeated sexual advances towards you? Are the kids Sandusky molested more are less likely to be gay?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Might a child or a young man be more open to homosexual relationships after such events, especially living in a society where it is encouraged and children are exposed and indoctrinated at a young age?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

What about the majority of gay which have not been molested? I understand you can't wrap your mind around how someone becomes gay, but most gays say they were not molested.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Also, what about the effects especially on youth identifying as gay when it is discouraged. How is that the better path?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Though I vehemently disagree that the majority of gays weren't molested or subjected to a homosexual experience during a vulnerable time in their lives, whether it be childhood or young adulthood, for the sake of

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

Jesus fücking Christ!!!

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Brunswick, OH, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

argument lets suppose that is true. I say the remaining cases of homosexuality result from some other type of gender confusion due to an absent father figure, domineering mother or combination of both.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Here's something to think about, Don. If homosexuality is a psychological disorder as I claim then shouldn't there be other symptoms of that disorder? As a black man was there ever that white kid who hung around you and

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

your buddies and even though he had been raised by whites and around whites his whole life, he spoke with a distinctive black/white hybrid accent? Wouldn't some of those kids have decided that they were born black rather

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

than white if it were an option? Homosexuals speak with a lisp and often imitate the sex they feel they more identify with because rather than identity confusion they are suffering from gender confusion.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Actually i speak very proper and it's probably because that's how my mother and father speak. Also that languge pattern is developed in the exact same way southern.accents, whatever that is they speak in louisiana, etc. the people who talk that way

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Don't even realize it. However, you can take speech classes and correct that speech pattern, or get around people who model property speech for you.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

"Homosexuals speak with a lisp"...really. I am embarrassed by your incredible ignorance, assuming you actually believe that.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Being gay is about being attracted to the same sex. They are not faking arousal for the same sex, and they are not faking the desire for intimacy (non sexual) with the same sex. You have as much as admitted that, and if you can't i question your

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

And really, homosexuality is just the far opposite end of the spectrum, heterosexuality being the other. Most people lie somewhere in between, but more towards one end than the other. Some lie very near the middle (bi).

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Sanity, because you somejow mnemosyne you can asses sometimes feeling and emotions better than they can. I also find it odd that gays would collaborate to cover up the mass molestation going on that's turning them gay. One day maybe you will meet a

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Gay person face to face and be able to have a why are you gay talk. Which again.leads me back to have you ever wanted to.play with another mans dick. You are aroused by women not only sexually, but drawn to intimacy. You could not fathom wanting to

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Do that with a man, but when a gay person says thr opposite you say they.are lying. What exactly do they win in that scenario. More dick? To cover up molestation? And if they are not lying what exactly are they supposed to do, be asexual? Really, re

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Please answer. What do you expect them to do, if you are right. All.go the shrinks and try to turn not gay? Pray it away? Find the cure? Really think about it a minute. What is the next step

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Really? No gay people change their speech and mannerisms? That's up to them what they do so long as they understand their lifestyle is not natural nor normal and should not be forced onto society. Many will get better

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

and be able to experience the greatest things this world has to offer like communion with God, family, and children. Whether they know it or care to know it they are being cheated.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States

Ec668eae09619b562068ea5a4a7bce15

How are you harmed by two consenting adults engaging in an activity that doesn't harm anyone else's life, liberty, or personal property?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Summerville, GA 30747, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

It might be wise to drastically increase the punishment for pedophilia rather than giving the slaps on the wrists they do today.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Im not talking about speach. As i said, speach is something that can be easily changed. Sexual orientation is not. How did i go through all that and what you got from it was " really, gays don't change their speech and mannerisms

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

How many gay people change from being gay? To hell with a mannerism or speech. That stuff your pushing is not working, not changing people from being gay, and causing suicides especially in gay kids. That's went i asked what next

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Obviously you are not willing to look at the situation as it is. You would rather create this fantacy reality where no one is really gay, and they can just stop whenever they want

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Just like you could convert to dick if you wanted. I know it would be impossible for me to switch. You know some of these pray the Gary away camps are getting banned right

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3365681 Lets see if the app. Work to cure gay?

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3354253 A bunch of gays lying about harm done trying to change. Why lie? Don't know. But it must be there well thought out attack on morality

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

I know this means nothing to you, because you've made up your mind. But, you should at least do some investigating on the claims you make about gays

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

I was referring to Evil who claimed that some gays don't deliberately change their speech and mannerisms. I read and addressed your comments as well. Pray the gay away might work better if society wasn't inundated with

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

the homosexual agenda. Should we ban AA because of the high rate of recedivism? Are those with a shoe fetish born that way? There is a psychological phenomenon occurring that no one wants to understand. Pedophiles

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

typically can't be cured. Should their behavior be condoned and encouraged? As far as the suicide rate, I fought it's as prevalent as it's portrayed among gays. I would guess that suicidal subjects not only have a host

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

of problems, but also poor coping skills and a poor support system.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I claimed that "some gays don't deliberately change their speech and mannerisms"???

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

I don't believe I claimed anything except that you are embarrassingly stupid, ignorant or both for your actual, quoted assertion.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Actually I just asserted that you are ignorant scrags. Forgive my overreaching!

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Pedophiles=victims Homosexuality= no victims Rape=victims Consensual sex=no victims that is the difference.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

The homosexual agenda: Let people be with who makes them happy. It's not hurting anyone.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

The anti homosexual agenda: Make them realize they are sick, and there urges are unnatural. They need to be cured.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Cured of something that makes them happy and hurts no one.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

...and play god, by deciding how others should feel, think, speak, act...and deciding who is sinful.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Well they god it straight fron god evil. So it's not their fault they are just following gods will and trying to keep them from hell by letting them know they are the same as pedophiles

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

I never said they had to be cured. Actually, I said that was up to them. In light of the available evidence I refuse to see homosexuality for anything than the psychological disorder that it is and therefore will not

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

condone it.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

5f13389fd6ea4b6de49bacec84ed7d8f

Does anyone else ever wonder about the twelve apostles? Seems like a pretty cozy little group of guys. I'm just sayin'....

jc @ almost 4 years ago

Yellow Springs, OH 45387, USA

3ba75abd9c729d64b5648498e8a8547a

Yeah, drinking all that wine. No women. Hmmmm

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

6c48fb73634fa41fe7915a7faf370ee7

and white

Mr. Pink @ almost 4 years ago

Midway, Elyria, OH 44035

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Yeah, it's a psychological disorder, it's not me being judgmental or anything lololol

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

If by judgmental you mean considering all the facts and determining the truth, then yes I am being judgmental. Besides, there is no sin in being judgmental, only hypocritical.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Judgmental in that I'm not swayed by feelings, consensus, or the feelings of others.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Your so called facts are not factual, to start. Many are either debunked theories or are just outright false. Second, you take what may be factual for a few people and, without rhyme not reason, blithely apply it to each and every member of an

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

entire class. Third, you select a few facts or partial truths and use them to inform your judgments, while purposefully ignoring the big picture and/or facts that don't fit your preconceived notion of the truth. In short, you decide what you want

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

the"truth" to be, then you doggedly stick to anything that comports with that view. Not swayed by feelings? Lets just drop that little fantasy - this is the entire basis for your opinions.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Brilliant explanation of your beliefs...bravo.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

("I know you are but what am I")...brilliant retort scrags.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

A lot of times it's true, though.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

26e82c69bac3abe48cfce8aae262fda8

Favorite gays. I'll start. Elton John umm. Anderson Cooper. Umm hmm I'll get back to later.

The Drew @ almost 4 years ago

Sayville, NY, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Love Anderson!!! Rock Hudson. Jodi Foster. Ellen Degeneres. Neil Patrick Harris.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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That Elmo guy, Hitler, Sandusky...

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Those would be your favorites

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Coralville, IA 52241, USA

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look scrag, et all... homosexual behavior has won, it is the new moral level of the country. You had damn well better accept it or else face prison time. . You don't have to like it, but you'd better shut the fück up and do as you're told. .

H2O @ almost 4 years ago

Fort Wadsworth, Staten Island, NY

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Blessed are you when men revile you, and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely, on account of Me. Rejoice, and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets who

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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who were before you (Matthew 5:11-12).

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and will persecute you, delivering you to the synagogues and prisons, bringing you before kings and governors for My name’s sake (Luke 21:12).

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Remember the word that I said to you, “A slave is not greater than his master.” If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. These things I have spoken to you,

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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that you may be kept from stumbling. They will make you outcasts from the synagogues; but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God (John 15:20; 16:1-2).

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

“And these things they will do, because they have not known the Father, or Me” (John 16:3).

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Rejoice, brother. Our Lord's return nears.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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sounds like what's happening to gays.

UndrWater @ almost 4 years ago

Cerritos, CA, USA

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I suppose...if homosexuality weren't a sin and homosexuals were actually persecuted.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Is adultery a sin?

Racer X @ almost 4 years ago

Summerville, GA 30747, USA

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Homosexuals were not previously persecuted, as a class????!! Come on now!! Tell me you guys never called that poor bookworm kid in Junior High a fàggot...tell me you do not at this very moment look down in judgment upon them!

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Gay bashing is an.actual term

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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But christians have it way worse than gays. Your likely to get your ass kicked for just being a Christian walking down the street.

don Pappi @ almost 4 years ago

Iowa City, IA 52246, USA

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Don, Christians are being persecuted as never before across the globe and right here in America. From schools to the public square. You honestly probably never heard that or believe it because mainstream media doesn't

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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report it. Another end time prophecy being fulfilled. Who else would know the future so precisely other than God?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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Where are you going with your question, Racer?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Vestal, NY , United States

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obligatory: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yd5Hkoiu0MI/TurBPXrNAxI/AAAAAAAAAYI/QmIlvocyI3g/s1600/persecution.jpg

Tjaden Froyda @ almost 4 years ago

Kasson, MN 55944, USA

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good ol angilius, making as much sense as he ever did.

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

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good ol angilius, making as much sense as he ever did.

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

hyperbole and complete lack of context and any measure of a touch of reality

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Lets get this straight, scrags (no pun intended): gays have NOT been persecuted, but christians ARE. Is that your assertion?

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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im sure that is different for him, his disconnect there is not really able to be reasoned out. i was more wondering about his assertion that christians are being persecuted as never before.

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

that requires a complete lack of historical knowledge when they were actually persecuted and then the moment it stopped for them, the moment they became the ruling party and their growth from there.

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

the reality that what is felt now is not persecution, not even at the level that they shelled out towards others, it is slow, gradual backsliding to less of their will imposed on others.

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

When were Christians ever persecuted on this scale? http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/02/vatican-spokesman-claims-100000-christians-killed-annually-because-faith/

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States

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Where are gays persecuted to this extent. Enough of your liberal propaganda already.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

That number is fake and the entire article is a debate on the number itself, did you even read it? It says that persecution against christians is on the rise yes, in the middle east and africa, in muslim countries,

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

as minorities usually live in a type of persecution. the killed is a fake number, even if it was real, which it is not it is not even close to the scale in which christians were persected before they became the

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

persecutor in things like the crusades and through history after that before liberalism itself made them more tollerate towards ethnic and religious minorities

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

you talk about scale as you even know the meaning of the word

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

gays absolutely are persecuted to the level you try to emphasize christians are, and im sure we can find some #### to make up a number like 100,000 for them too

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

Can you back that up with any sources other than yourself? Are you somehow privy to special knowledge none of us are?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

are you ignoring most of my posts or all of them?

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

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Long time no see, Josh. Where you been?

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

working, and i have a baby?

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

Eae801e1796256f6fa36c012423936f7

I owe you an apology for those horrible things I said about you and your family. I truly am sorry.

Angelus @ almost 4 years ago

Seneca Falls, NY 13148, United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

that is weird, deathbed conversion? it was a long time ago im not worried about what people say about my family they are my pride and joy.

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

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Lmao

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

but anyway you must realize that the numbers of gays killed each year would far exceed those of christians in the world on a per capita basis.

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

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Josh not Adam. My bad sorry it's been awhile.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Good to hear from you brother, hope the baby is well and happy

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

that baby is always happy except when he is hitting his head on a wall or a door, sucking on a titty usually fixes him right up after that though, more problems in this world can be solved if more people just

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

A39f5aef0adb6cea421f333e4cc9b583

lived like he lives, i guess gays really are screwed

[412035] @ almost 4 years ago

Martinsburg, WV , United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Hahaha you need to watch the movie "Parenthood", if you haven't seen it.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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Josh.. it (scraggs) has gotten so much worse while you've been gone. Check out Racers crazy 1000+thread about talking at his kid's school about being an atheist... Holy crap.

Repeal the "Patriot" Act!™ @ almost 4 years ago

Bush, LA 70431, USA

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Adam, that's tolerant you stupid sh!t.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Romney, WV 26757, USA

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

Give me a number on homosexuals killed worldwide. The article says 2.5 million Christians live in persecution. I'm sure that includes some here, persecuted by queers.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Romney, WV 26757, USA

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

You could at least thank me for putting food on your table so your little niglet doesn't starve.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Romney, WV 26757, USA

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

Seriously...Romney, WV???? That guy is so fúcking rich he has a town? Well I guess that explains some shít doesn't it.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

C3d8e2ed711cf2fa95c0fb0976dafe28

Oh yeah, I guess a liberal wouldn't understand Mitt Romney wasn't around in 1762, f_cking moron.

WV Conservative @ almost 4 years ago

Sussex, WI 53089, United States

C767f03aeb282b9660d8157840047228

How sad for you.

Dr. Evil @ almost 4 years ago

Lakeland, MN, USA

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